You can't agree with Nucker on Vanek and then say re-sign the Sedins. Sedins are TWO players and OLDER and will get paid MORE.

- boonerbuck

He’s being sarcastic about agreeing with me lol.

I assume they’re taking about a trade and then sign again type of situation. If not, then lol.
- Nucker101

No, not all of them

I’m just saying that if we want a new identity post-Sedins I think having some vets who play a certain style can help. More speed and aggression. Otherwise why not just sign the Sedins for 1 year?

And yeah, the Vanek move paid off nicely this year but going back to the same wishing well twice may be pushing your luck.

Especially if he sucks again in the playoffs for his new team. How many GM’s will even consider him as a TDL pickup in 2019 at that point?

And If he has a good playoff then I don’t think he’ll be back in Vancouver anyway.
- Nucker101

Who's more likely to agree to a trade at the TDL next season? Vanek or the Sedins?

Even if he decided to go against his desire to play for a bottom feeder without a NTC(obviously using this strategy to insure playoffs for himself)... it's not the end of the world. He wasn't traded for. 1 season. Cheaper.

I don't understand... you made our argument about Vanek-young players-big risk of not being able to trade him-change of identity... but are willing to fill two spots with older and even slower players who don't fit with Boeser at all 5 on 5.... and who will in no way agree to a trade. It seems like two entirely different and contradicting positions.

No, not all of them
- VANTEL

Then the rest are idiots.

He’s being sarcastic about agreeing with me lol.
- Nucker101

That scoundrel!

1040?
- boonerbuck

Just seen someone post on Twitter, everyone on 1040 says trade Vanek

Who's more likely to agree to a trade at the TDL next season? Vanek or the Sedins?

Even if he decided to go against his desire to play for a bottom feeder without a NTC(obviously using this strategy to insure playoffs for himself)... it's not the end of the world. He wasn't traded for. 1 season. Cheaper.

I don't understand... you made our argument about Vanek-young players-big risk of not being able to trade him-change of identity... but are willing to fill two spots with older and even slower players who don't fit with Boeser at all 5 on 5.... and who will in no way agree to a trade. It seems like two entirely different and contradicting positions.
- boonerbuck

This is my main point:

1) Vanek goes to a playoff team and does his usual disappearing act in big games and playoff games. He tells Benning in July that he’s willing to come back on another one year deal since he liked the city/team/cocaine. Great. Now who the hell is going to trade for him after yet another playoff disappearing act?

2) He goes to a playoff team and actually plays well like he has here and did in Detroit last year. Now I’m guessing it’s a lot less likely that he’s back in Vancouver on a one year deal worth 2-3M. If he does then great.

That scoundrel!

- boonerbuck

I hate idiots who use sarcasm.

Who's more likely to agree to a trade at the TDL next season? Vanek or the Sedins?

Even if he decided to go against his desire to play for a bottom feeder without a NTC(obviously using this strategy to insure playoffs for himself)... it's not the end of the world. He wasn't traded for. 1 season. Cheaper.

I don't understand... you made our argument about Vanek-young players-big risk of not being able to trade him-change of identity... but are willing to fill two spots with older and even slower players who don't fit with Boeser at all 5 on 5.... and who will in no way agree to a trade. It seems like two entirely different and contradicting positions.
- boonerbuck

Your top three centers next year should be Bo Hank and Gaudette and Gaudette should be protectected by Gagner.

This is my main point:

1) Vanek goes to a playoff team and does his usual disappearing act in big games and playoff games. He tells Benning in July that he’s willing to come back on another one year deal since he liked the city/team/cocaine. Great. Now who the hell is going to trade for him after yet another playoff disappearing act?

2) He goes to a playoff team and actually plays well like he has here and did in Detroit last year. Now I’m guessing it’s a lot less likely that he’s back in Vancouver on a one year deal worth 2-3M. If he does then great.
- Nucker101

Seems safer than signing 2 Sedins and the argument almost sounds like I suggested trading for Vanek instead of just signing him for a season in the summer.

Burrows and Hansen had no value on HB. Vanek had no value in the summer on HB. Vanek has no Value next season on HB. Got it.

*Two* *higher paid* *older players* who will *not agree to be traded* kind of negates what you are saying.

Cassels and Archibald score 2-1 Comets late in the second

Your top three centers next year should be Bo Hank and Gaudette and Gaudette should be protectected by Gagner.
- VANTEL

That's right. With EP coming in the following season or two.

That's right. With EO coming in the following season or two.
- boonerbuck

Do you mean EP?

Do you mean EP?
- VANTEL

typo.

Maybe this will get Lefty in here for his opinion on turning Vanek into a pick not just once, but twice.

Maybe this will get Lefty in here for his opinion on turning Vanek into a pick not just once, but twice.


- boonerbuck

He's still sleeping.

typo.
- boonerbuck

I would go next year . Trade Vanek and bring him back .

Vanek Bo Boeser
Sven Sutter Gagner
Maroon Gaudette Granllund
Archibald Nolan Jake


Slump Dog

Seems safer than signing 2 Sedins and the argument almost sounds like I suggested trading for Vanek instead of just signing him for a season in the summer.

Burrows and Hansen had no value on HB. Vanek had no value in the summer on HB. Vanek has no Value next season on HB. Got it.

*Two* *higher paid* *older players* who will *not agree to be traded* kind of negates what you are saying.


- boonerbuck

I’m saying if Vanek can’t be traded that I prefer the Sedins, yes. Henrik plays C and both are better off ice examples for the youth than Vanek is.

If Vanek has trade value then sure, bring him back instead.

But again, I’d prefer signing vets to transition the youth to a new style/identity. Not more sloths.

I would go next year . Trade Vanek and bring him back .

Vanek Bo Boeser
Sven Sutter Gagner
Maroon Gaudette Granllund
Archibald Nolan Jake


Slump Dog
- VANTEL

Maroon, Nolan, Archibald, Boeser and Vanek are all not the fastest guys though.

Eriksson will be on LTIR soon the doctor will declare him brain dead

I’m saying if Vanek can’t be traded that I prefer the Sedins, yes. Henrik plays C and both are better off ice examples for the youth than Vanek is.

If Vanek has trade value then sure, bring him back instead.

But again, I’d prefer signing vets to transition the youth to a new style/identity. Not more sloths.
- Nucker101

I knew you'd agree eventually.

I would go next year . Trade Vanek and bring him back .

Vanek Bo Boeser
Sven Sutter Gagner
Maroon Gaudette Granllund
Archibald Nolan Jake


Slump Dog
- VANTEL

I would rather give Goldy his sink or swim play time next season. Goldy with Bo-boeser Jake on the 3rd line and something better for the 4th line.

I would rather give Goldy his sink or swim play time next season. Goldy with Bo-boeser Jake on the 3rd line and something better for the 4th line.
- Retinalz

The main point is Canucks have enough people that they don't need to tie up 10 mil on two untradeable players

I knew you'd agree eventually.
- boonerbuck

So you believe he has trade deadline rental value if he sucks again in the playoffs?


Interesting...lol