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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:12 PM ET
Right now, a player getting sent down to minors get 1.025 million buried and that will change again next year as the cap increases.
A player like Paul Martin has a 4.85 million contract and is at a cap hit of 3.83 while in minors.
Down the road here, as he becomes even more of a dud, the best option capwise will be to send him to minors.
Why eat salary and give up picks too get rid of him.

- Reubenkincade

Eriksson is better at hockey them guance and Chaput. You send him down only if he's the worse player on the team.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 18 @ 12:17 PM ET
Eriksson is better at hockey them guance and Chaput. You send him down only if he's the worse player on the team.
- Pres.cup


Get rid of all three of them
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
Eriksson is better at hockey them guance and Chaput. You send him down only if he's the worse player on the team.
- Pres.cup


Chaput is up only as ahl depth this season, which we are not referring to. Beyond this season when his NMC, is no longer in place. More likely in another season or 2 that option is more realistic.
Gaunce or Granlund will be shipped out by deadline for something to a team looking for defensively responsible forward. A team like Islanders, Oilers, Leafs could use a player or 2 that have something of a defensive conscience.
After that I am not sure who Erickson could be considered better than as a winger.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:28 PM ET
LeBrun: "I've spoken to a couple of teams that covet Evander Kane, that intend on making a play for him, and that would like to have him. None of them intend to include a first-round pick in their offer." #Sabres 1050
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:29 PM ET
Do I want to? NO.

But we are currently in a disastrous situation on the back end.

If at 5 its tkachuck(and I like this tkachuck better than the other) or trade back to 8 for Dobson and pick up a 2nd and 3rd for example im doing it. Im then packaging those picks with other picks to climb back in to the 1st for another defensemen if one i like is available.

No defense means we will need to rebuild again like buffalo currently has too. They are the prime example of how not to build a team. Nylander over sergachev was a massive mistake.

- mauryballstein

Disagree, I am taking Tkachuk over Dobson plus a 2nd everyday and it's not close. This organization can't pass on first line talent. We need everything. Use our 2nd-7th round picks on D if you have to but always go bpa at the top
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
LeBrun: "I've spoken to a couple of teams that covet Evander Kane, that intend on making a play for him, and that would like to have him. None of them intend to include a first-round pick in their offer." #Sabres 1050
- LeftCoaster

I'd offer a6th round pick but it might ruin our draft position....
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:31 PM ET


We have absolutely nothing in Utica for defense.

- mauryballstein


That's what happens when you trade away superstar talent.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:31 PM ET
Get rid of all three of them
- VANTEL

VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:32 PM ET
Disagree, I am taking Tkachuk over Dobson plus a 2nd everyday and it's not close. This organization can't pass on first line talent. We need everything. Use our 2nd-7th round picks on D if you have to but always go bpa at the top
- CanuckDon


Yep, look where JB got Tryamkin. I get the sense of urgency on D, they need to get creative.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
That's what happens when you trade away superstar talent.


- bloatedmosquito



Subban - 11 points in 28 games
Holm - 20 points in 33

Jordan - midget that can't play D
Holm - good size can sort of play D

Holm - free asset out of Sweden ----Subban - carreer is over
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
That's what happens when you trade away superstar talent.


- bloatedmosquito


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:36 PM ET
Yep, look where JB got Tryamkin. I get the sense of urgency on D, they need to get creative.
- VanHockeyGuy

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:36 PM ET
I would say Holland's ready for a change now that he's got Detroit in terrible shape
- LeftCoaster

Holland did leave the club in a bit of a mess yes...but three cups in 18 years in DET, if we had that here I honestly would not give a shat what state the team was in presently.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:36 PM ET


Hit the pipe as often as Tyron Biggins.

Trading all those 2nds and Forsling is what has cost us. JB didnt want to wait for defense to develop because they take a long time. He was ignorant and thought he could make a couple trades and win a cup.

At this point id rather Rasmus Andersson or Oliver Kylington than sven. Then you factor in forsling. Roland McKweon(who would be playing if on the canucks but is stuck on a loaded canes blue line) instead we got linden Vey. Gudbranson could have had us Hajek and McCann.

If we had the following in the system we wouldnt be in the situation we are in.

Hajek - Andersson
Forsling - McKweon

Now add OJ and Tryamkin(hopefully) with Hutton, Stecher and Puliot and things are not bad on the back end at all.

We have absolutely nothing in Utica for defense.

- mauryballstein

Utica has 3 rookies on their D. None of which are high first round picks. Putting too much stock into how many picks actually make the NHL and how fast
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:38 PM ET


Subban - 11 points in 28 games
Holm - 20 points in 33

Jordan - midget that can't play D
Holm - good size can sort of play D

Holm - free asset out of Sweden ----Subban - carreer is over

- CanuckDon


Anson Carter was right.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:39 PM ET
That's what happens when you trade away superstar talent.


- bloatedmosquito

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:40 PM ET
Holland did leave the club in a bit of a mess yes...but three cups in 18 years in DET, if we had that here I honestly would not give a shat what state the team was in presently.
- LordHumungous

Those first two Cups had little to do with Holland and he got lucky with his scouts drafting Datsyuk and Zetterberg in the 6th and 7th rounds.

He rode those gifts to the bitter end.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
Those first two Cups had little to do with Holland and he got lucky with his scouts drafting Datsyuk and Zetterberg in the 6th and 7th rounds.

He rode those gifts to the bitter end.

- LeftCoaster


But when put in the position to win it all they did. And boy they were an exciting team to watch.

When a GM is given an opportunity like that, the good ones don't (frank) it up.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
Anson Carter was right.
- bloatedmosquito

We should have played Subban with the Sedin's?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
One of the main reasons why I have never liked Erickson signing

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=72639
12th season 34 playoff games and a whopping 14 points in those playoff games.
Great mentor to have.
The great Chris Kontos had better success than this dud.
The soonèr we get rid of losers like him the better. Imo
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:54 PM ET
But when put in the position to win it all they did. And boy they were an exciting team to watch.

When a GM is given an opportunity like that, the good ones don't (frank) it up.

- bloatedmosquito

He took over the team in the summer of 1997 and had an open check book to sign Shanahan (after the trade) to add to Yzerman, Fedorov, Lidstrom, Larionov, Kozlov, Draper, Vernon and company which were already there.

He does nothing for me.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
One of the main reasons why I have never liked Erickson signing

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=72639
12th season 34 playoff games and a whopping 14 points in those playoff games.
Great mentor to have.
The great Chris Kontos had better success than this dud.
The soonèr we get rid of losers like him the better. Imo

- Reubenkincade

They took a chance and got burned. Eriksson did look like he was returning to form his final year in BOS with a 63pt season which mimicked his time in DAL. Can't hit on all UFA's.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
One of the main reasons why I have never liked Erickson signing

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=72639
12th season 34 playoff games and a whopping 14 points in those playoff games.
Great mentor to have.
The great Chris Kontos had better success than this dud.
The soonèr we get rid of losers like him the better. Imo

- Reubenkincade


JB Top 3 fails

1) LE
2) Gudbranson
3) Kesler
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:58 PM ET
They took a chance and got burned. Eriksson did look like he was returning to form his final year in BOS with a 63pt season which mimicked his time in DAL. Can't hit on all UFA's.
- LordHumungous

The bigger issue is the team wasn't in a position to compete yet they/Benning goes out and signs an expensive free agent.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
JB Top 3 fails

1) LE
2) Gudbranson
3) Kesler

- VanHockeyGuy



Don't agree on Kesler. One trading partner. Kesler screwed this organization.
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