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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
Do you pay EJ Gaines are let him walk ?
- SABRES 89


I was just thinking about that the other day. Like anything, it comes down to how much he wants. He looked quite good at times, and when he was out they missed him, but other times he looked like just a guy. They need to do something though; they only have White under contract next year. Well, and some guy who made the minimum.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:06 PM ET
well he shouldn't ask for as much because nobody's going to pay that and hed wind up scrambling on the last day but perception absolutely matters.

It's a fragile fan base, slightest thing could tick off the season ticket holders.

- Sabresfan-365


If you worry about the fans when running your organization, you will be sitting with them soon enough.

Sounds like you're worrying he might be like what happened to Murray last trade deadline based on 'reports' that could be entirely erroneous.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 17 @ 4:06 PM ET
Ours (East Aurora) was once a year, and it was like Christmas
- jcragcrumple

Yeah, I had "free lunch" in middle-school and would only get school lunches on Wednesday... Where I could a get a free slice and then buy another.

You hear that homie? It pays to be poor.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
Jbotts put the big ask out there. I like it. Keeps the tire beaters away and only serious offers will come in for him to focus on.
- lulags


That's not necessarily a good idea though. Many times other, sometimes even bigger deals, come out of a tire-kicking call.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
If you worry about the fans when running your organization, you will be sitting with them soon enough.

Sounds like you're worrying he might like what happened to Murray last trade deadline based on 'reports' that could be entirely erroneous.

- kingcong39



This is completely misguided. if you don't worry about the fans at all you're screwed. There's a middle ground to it.

Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
Can’t tell u how many teachers (etc)
I know who wait tables or bartend on the weekends

And now the Uber/Lyft & delivering for Skip & Grubhub is a way ppl are making extra cash now too

No, ppl are gonna go hang outside Home Depot
But there are reasonable things ppl can do

It’s still BS that college costs a crap ton of $$$ and puts most ppl in crazy debt

- jdfitz77



College is expensive but In this area you can go to ECC or NCCC for 2 years and go to UB for 2-4 years and not have too much debt.

A guy I work with went to canisius for teaching. He spent 50k more then me for the same degree. Why? Not everyone has to go to their “dream college”

You could knock off a lot of of the loan living at home till 23 and working 30-40 hours a week. Graduate with barely any debt. I just turned 33 so I’m not some old conservative man that’s out of touch. It’s been less then 10 years since I’ve been in college.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 17 @ 4:16 PM ET
College is expensive but In this area you can go to ECC or NCCC for 2 years and go to UB for 2-4 years and not have too much debt.

A guy I work with went to canisius for teaching. He spent 50k more then me for the same degree. Why? Not everyone has to go to their “dream college”

You could knock off a lot of of the loan living at home till 23 and working 30-40 hours a week. Graduate with barely any debt. I just turned 33 so I’m not some old conservative man that’s out of touch. It’s been less then 10 years since I’ve been in college.

- Fattony1187

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
well he shouldn't ask for as much because nobody's going to pay that and hed wind up scrambling on the last day but perception absolutely matters.

It's a fragile fan base, slightest thing could tick off the season ticket holders.

- Sabresfan-365


Absolutely NOT his concern
Getting the most he can for Kane should be though

It’s his job to build a winner
That will make the season ticket holders (and everyone else) much happier than whether or not the expectations are met on a Kane trade return

I think you’re looking at this all wrong

The bottom line,
get as much as possible
For example:
Not gonna get a top prospect if U don’t ask
However:
It’s not like he will end up having to settle for a “c” prospect instead of a “b” one just bc his ask was high
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:25 PM ET
This is completely misguided. if you don't worry about the fans at all you're screwed. There's a middle ground to it.
- Sabresfan-365


Does that middle ground include worrying about what you're asking in private getting exaggerated and leaked to an 'insider'?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
The Life Coach is in session again.
- Hatboro_Swords


Always love your contributions
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:27 PM ET
There's 90 MILLION unemployed adults in America

I know your brain has a hard time grasping things after 1980, but that also includes 20-30 years old who mostly can't find work because 60 year old men refuse to retire on their wonderful pensions they keep milking and it's destroying the job market

Not to mention, the working class is 90% of this country's workforce and they are uneducated and ignorant to the propaganda machine telling them there's gender wage-gaps (there really isn't), that women don't have equal opportunity (they do) and at the same time, men are exploited for child support by women who purposefully lock guys down knowing it's 18 years of extra income.

There aren't any jobs. The highest industry only employs about 4 million people and that's the health service industry IIRC.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Do we have to go to monster again and see all the (frank)ing jobs that no one can fill?

So, learn a (frank)ing trade: "There is an emerging consensus about the need for more skilled tradesmen to replace aging workers. Essentially, skilled tradesmen are retiring faster than they can be replaced. This has created career opportunities for machinists, welders, tool and die makers, and other skilled tradesmen. To help address this shortage, the Western New York Regional Economic Development Council is establishing a training institute to increase the talent pipeline for this critical area."

https://labor.ny.gov/stats/wny/index.shtm

Both my cousin and step-brother are in construction, but different sectors and they can't get competent people to work for them; they'll take any bumhole off the street because they're desperate for labor.

My cousin has been doing it for 15 years and the first 5 years he maybe worked 3 actual years because he got laid off so much because there were too many people. He hasn't been laid off, not even in the winter when it slows down, in 8 years. The jobs are out there. People are just too lazy to look, or they think working with their hands is somehow below them.

WNY is back to pre-recession job levels. Is it all sunshine and lollypops? No, but it's not the armageddon that you hear all the goddamn time either.

That 90 million people out of the job force number is wildly inaccurate. That includes old, retired people and students. That's a massive amount of people.


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 17 @ 4:28 PM ET
Does that middle ground include worrying about what you're asking in private getting exaggerated and leaked to an 'insider'?
- kingcong39



again we don't know what he's asking for sure and whether dreger or lebrun are exaggerating. its all pure speculation, thats pretty much the foundation of this site.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:33 PM ET
anyone want $10.20 to shovel my driveway?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
anyone want $10.20 to shovel my driveway?
- robz228



I would but the bootstraps on my shoveling boots broke.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
again we don't know what he's asking for sure and whether dreger or lebrun are exaggerating. its all pure speculation, thats pretty much the foundation of this site.
- Sabresfan-365


U think Botts will get a B prospect & a 1st, plus maybe a conditional pick...
right?

U tell me what you think he will get that’s less than that bc he asks for an “A” prospect instead?

I don’t think he will end up getting LESS of a return
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
But I thought illegals were taking all our jobs?
(Sarcasm)

- jdfitz77


They only take the jobs no one wants, like picking 40lb watermelons 14 hours a day in Alabama in the summer.

Just watch 5:35-9:00, it's like that everywhere. 3 minutes and 25 seconds, that's it.

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
U think Botts will get a B prospect & a 1st, plus maybe a conditional pick...
right?

U tell me what you think he will get that’s less than that bc he asks for an “A” prospect instead?

I don’t think he will end up getting LESS of a return

- jdfitz77



young fallen out of favour roster player (think dano) plus b level prospect or picks.

I don't think he will get less than the original one i mentioned either but it wouldn't surprise me if it went that way
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
They only take the jobs no one wants, like picking 40lb watermelons 14 hours a day in Alabama in the summer.

Just watch 5:35-9:00, it's like that everywhere. 3 minutes and 25 seconds, that's it.


- Wetbandit1



There are a lot of factors there.

7 bucks an hour sent home to Mexico/Honduras/Haiti is huge to them.

7 bucks an hour to an American for that kind of labor isn't worth it. If they want to attract competent American workers, they have to pay more, and yes, the commodity prices will increase, but the lawmakers should have known that.

The most frightening thing to me was the prison labor crew. Having an economy based on the need for prison labor encourages mass incarceration
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
They only take the jobs no one wants, like picking 40lb watermelons 14 hours a day in Alabama in the summer.

Just watch 5:35-9:00, it's like that everywhere. 3 minutes and 25 seconds, that's it.


- Wetbandit1



That’s why I put “Sarcasm” in ( )
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
young fallen out of favour roster player (think dano) plus b level prospect or picks.

I don't think he will get less than the original one i mentioned either but it wouldn't surprise me if it went that way

- Sabresfan-365


My point is...
that asking for MORE, can only get him more
It won’t get him LESS

So there’s no harm in doing it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
There are a lot of factors there.

7 bucks an hour sent home to Mexico/Honduras/Haiti is huge to them.

7 bucks an hour to an American for that kind of labor isn't worth it. If they want to attract competent American workers, they have to pay more, and yes, the commodity prices will increase, but the lawmakers should have known that.

The most frightening thing to me was the prison labor crew. Having an economy based on the need for prison labor encourages mass incarceration

- jcragcrumple


And we are already the most highly incarcerated country in the world
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 17 @ 4:54 PM ET

- BeadyEyedDouche

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My sister is 26 graduated only 2 years ago. Barely has any college debt and is almost set at a down payment for a house.

But then again, she works a part time side job on the weekends that seem to be beneath you or all the other people that “can’t make it.”
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
maybe you missed where I tell people younger, to start a business or join the service instead of getting a degree


if you go after a degree, plan on many 80 hour work weeks til you catch up

plain and simple

- homiedclown


This only applies to bullpoop degrees like interior design, art history, literature, philosophy, phys ed...

Not actual, useful degrees. And I'm not even talking about tough ones like engineering, law, med, pharmacy. Hell an associate's in physical therapist assistant(tons of available jobs) and you can make $45K(that's the median salary for a PTA). Even with just a high school diploma you can make $25K as an aide. How many 18 year olds make $25K or more that aren't drug dealers?

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/h...-assistants-and-aides.htm
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
That’s why I put “Sarcasm” in ( )
- jdfitz77


I know, it wasn't really meant for you.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
There are a lot of factors there.

7 bucks an hour sent home to Mexico/Honduras/Haiti is huge to them.

7 bucks an hour to an American for that kind of labor isn't worth it. If they want to attract competent American workers, they have to pay more, and yes, the commodity prices will increase, but the lawmakers should have known that.

The most frightening thing to me was the prison labor crew. Having an economy based on the need for prison labor encourages mass incarceration

- jcragcrumple


That's a whole other ball of wax.
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