Danny heatly killed a guy..

Henrick Tallinder gang raped a girl with Christian housalius
- MCGUIZZY

With his vehicle in an accident.

Not ray curruth or ray Lewis or oj

Alex Smith for a 3rd. 1 year left on his deal. All these other guys would be long term. And that's a mistake.
- Wetbandit1

I like this move. Sure mcdermott and Reid could work it out, like the last trade

With his vehicle in an accident.

Not ray curruth or ray Lewis or oj
- Boss34

He was charged with vehicular homocide

Are those the outdoor game jerseys ?

He was charged with vehicular homocide
- MCGUIZZY

Pretty sure he didn't intentionally kill his close childhood friend. He was young and drunk and speeding in a sportscar.

Pretty sure he didn't intentionally kill his close childhood friend. He was young and drunk and speeding in a sportscar.
- Boss34

Since when does that make you innocent? Hah

player x probably stinks

Since when does that make you innocent? Hah
- MCGUIZZY

Charges were dropped.

Regardless : you have brought up a good eample, can't argue that

Name a few .

Sure an occasional dui or drugs, but not even close to the nfl . Regardless of league size
- Boss34

Mike Ribeiro, Slava Voynov right off the top of my head.

Mario was in the room when a girl was raped. They went as far as to arrest Dan Quinn for it.

They are hockey players . Judge them on hockey . Should you guys be judged on your past experiences ?

Mike Ribeiro, Slava Voynov right off the top of my head.
- Wetbandit1

I can name hundreds of nfl players.

It's not even close. Look at the Bengals alone

society looks forward to the shock and awww of the media . Trump is a perfect example .

I can name hundreds of nfl players.

It's not even close. Look at the Bengals alone
- Boss34

Sure, but you said in a league without trouble makers. Are there less? Sure, but it's almost all because of socioeconomic reasons. Hockey players by and large come from at the very least middle class families. A large proportion of NFL players were dirt poor.

Charges were dropped.

Regardless : you have brought up a good eample, can't argue that
- Boss34

Yea I mean I’m not disagreeing with your point either. NHL players that get in trouble stand out like a sore thumb. Many will disagree but I do believe him being black only makes it worse. (Not meant to spark a race debate) but he’s kept himself pretty clean as of late. It may just be him putting on a show, but hes performed well on the ice and that more important to me.

I can name hundreds of nfl players.

It's not even close. Look at the Bengals alone
- Boss34

Think about a Canadian hockey player getting in trouble in Canada and Canadian police respond to the call. Im sure the police sweep it under the rug 9/10 times

American police are gonna want to make an example of a rich black guy

Yea I mean I’m not disagreeing with your point either. NHL players that get in trouble stand out like a sore thumb. Many will disagree but I do believe him being black only makes it worse. (Not meant to spark a race debate) but he’s kept himself pretty clean as of late. It may just be him putting on a show, but hes performed well on the ice and that more important to me.
- MCGUIZZY

They are hockey players . Judge them on hockey . Should you guys be judged on your past experiences ?
- cabin

Absolutely depending on the severity. Would you want your daughter dating a convicted rapist? Or even convicted of fraud like not a bullpoop forgot to check a box, but actual sustained fraud?

Absolutely depending on the severity. Would you want your daughter dating a convicted rapist? Or even convicted of fraud like not a bullpoop forgot to check a box, but actual sustained fraud?
- Wetbandit1

Convicted would be the key word .
I would be Leary of the content of the charge.

They are hockey players . Judge them on hockey . Should you guys be judged on your past experiences ?
- cabin

I agree, but why have a guy with a questionable past when most of the current nhl players do not have these issues?

We all have a past, including me.
I'm Probably not going to play in the nhl

Convicted would be the key word .
- cabin

Yeah, the guys I named were either convicted or found liable in civil court. The Dan Quinn/Mario Lemieux thing was he said/she said in the 80's. The fact he was arrested is bad enough.

Edit to your edit: That's why I added the qualifier to the fraud thing. Not just a one-time thing because of circumstance, it's still wrong, but you can at least empathize, but systematically ripping people off is a completely different animal.

I agree, but why have a guy with a questionable past when most of the current nhl players do not have these issues?

We all have a past, including me.
I'm Probably not going to play in the nhl
- Boss34

18 year olds do grow up. That's all I got

Kane has not been convicted on anything as a Sabre


move along

18 year olds do grow up. That's all I got
- cabin

some grow up




some don't

Think about a Canadian hockey player getting in trouble in Canada and Canadian police respond to the call. Im sure the police sweep it under the rug 9/10 times

American police are gonna want to make an example of a rich black guy
- jcragcrumple

stop it

Sure, but you said in a league without trouble makers. Are there less? Sure, but it's almost all because of socioeconomic reasons. Hockey players by and large come from at the very least middle class families. A large proportion of NFL players were dirt poor.
- Wetbandit1

I get the difference in social class ect.

You just want to argue:
My point was why sign a troublemaker when there are plenty of other options?

That's a big part of why contract talks have not happened with the sabres and kane.