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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:28 AM ET
That’s very reassuring...
- 1970vintage

In Benning we trust
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 19 @ 12:30 AM ET
In Benning we trust
- LeftCoaster


Be honest, we trust no one.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:31 AM ET
I'm not as pissed about the Canucks past 30 years as most. I moved from Toronto. Imagine if I'd stayed and had their playoff success for my entire 47 years. I at least got in 2 SCF here. For me, it could have been a lot worse than you guys who grew up here.

I'm nowhere near satisfied of course. I still hunger for a cup like the rest.

- boonerbuck

Things are different now but Burke, under the rules of his time, was probably the best builder the Canucks have ever had, followed by Quinn, trades were such a huge part of building back then.

Now you've gotta be a great drafter to be successful and a good manager of the cap, at least in my opinion. Drafting is a big part of any era since it came around, but it's the most important thing now is what I'm getting at.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:32 AM ET
In Benning we trust
- LeftCoaster


What's your favorite part ?

The contracts , the farm clubs , the trades or the UFA signings or do all roads lead back to drafting?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:35 AM ET
What's your favorite part ?

The contracts , the farm clubs , the trades or the UFA signings or do all roads lead back to drafting?

- VANTEL



I don't have a favorite part, if he's successful at anything it'll be drafting imo, but we won't know that for a few years yet.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 19 @ 12:43 AM ET


I don't have a favorite part, if he's successful at anything it'll be drafting imo, but we won't know that for a few years yet.

- LeftCoaster

Pettersson > Subban
#progress
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 19 @ 12:49 AM ET


I don't have a favorite part, if he's successful at anything it'll be drafting imo, but we won't know that for a few years yet.

- LeftCoaster

What are you talking about? we all know your favorite part was the 5 new hot dogs.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:54 AM ET


I don't have a favorite part, if he's successful at anything it'll be drafting imo, but we won't know that for a few years yet.

- LeftCoaster


Best case he’s a mediocre GM who does good and bad but he does leave behind a future core to build around for a more savvy GM to run with.


It’s happened in the NHL and other sports before. A controversial GM divides a fan base with his moves/strategy. Ends up leaving the next guy with a couple of building blocks but also an anchor or 2, and the next GM takes the organization to contender status.


I was talking to a friend about the Raptors today. Their previous GM brought in both of their current star players but did some stupid poop too. The new GM built around those 2 and now they’re a perennial 50 win team that’s a threat to go to the ECF. If the NBA wasn’t so (frank)ed up they’d have some hope to win it all, but nonetheless the next regime took the good and bad the previous regime left and built on it.

Hopefully Pettersson, Boeser and Horvat are those guys. Ideally a dman like OJ or the first round pick this year pans out as well.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:55 AM ET
What are you talking about? we all know your favorite part was the 5 new hot dogs.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I haven't had a hotdog for so long


LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:03 AM ET
Best case he’s a mediocre GM who does good and bad but he does leave behind a future core to build around for a more savvy GM to run with.


It’s happened in the NHL and other sports before. A controversial GM divides a fan base with his moves/strategy. Ends up leaving the next guy with a couple of building blocks but also an anchor or 2, and the next GM takes the organization to contender status.


I was talking to a friend about the Raptors today. Their previous GM brought in both of their current star players but did some stupid poop too. The new GM built around those 2 and now they’re a perennial 50 win team that’s a threat to go to the ECF. If the NBA wasn’t so (frank)ed up they’d have some hope to win it all, but nonetheless the next regime took the good and bad the previous regime left and built on it.

Hopefully Pettersson, Boeser and Horvat are those guys. Ideally a dman like OJ or the first round this year pans out as well.

- Nucker101

With four drafts under his belt, including some excellent draft positions, 6th/5th/5th overall, I should hope he leaves a few core players behind....should he leave.

Ultimately I think they need some stability at the GM position, it only takes a few years to piss it all away. John Milford did some excellent building back in the late 70's early 80's, until his untimely death, Harry Neale (frank)ed it all away in short order.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 19 @ 1:07 AM ET
This will be lengthy

https://twitter.com/iancm...status/954221645643894785
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 19 @ 1:12 AM ET
This will be lengthy

https://twitter.com/iancm...status/954221645643894785

- Codes1087


Damn... should be 20, hell get 2 to 5.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:15 AM ET
Damn... should be 20, hell get 2 to 5.
- Pres.cup

Two...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:19 AM ET
This will be lengthy

https://twitter.com/iancm...status/954221645643894785

- Codes1087

I turned that game on 2 minutes before it happened. LA started out really hot and has floundered quickly. Now out of a WC spot.

Colorado and Calgary have won 8 and 7 in a row.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:20 AM ET
Damn... should be 20, hell get 2 to 5.
- Pres.cup

Previous history?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:28 AM ET
Didn't realize this until now, Mike Gillis was the second longest tenured GM in Canucks history at only six years.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:30 AM ET
Previous history?
- manvanfan


Quick search says one other 2 game suspension
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 19 @ 1:30 AM ET
Didn't realize this until now, Mike Gillis was the second longest tenured GM in Canucks history at only six years.
- LeftCoaster


That’s kinda ugly
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:47 AM ET
Colorado quietly having a nice season, suddenly Tanner isn't calling Sakic the worst GM in the league
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 1:49 AM ET
Colorado quietly having a nice season, suddenly Tanner isn't calling Sakic the worst GM in the league
- LeftCoaster

People are quick to criticize.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 1:59 AM ET
People are quick to criticize.
- manvanfan

No...it was definitely warranted, but he's learned and he's getting better after five years. Hopefully, if our guy is re-signed, he's learning to be better at his job too.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 2:05 AM ET
No...it was definitely warranted, but he's learned and he's getting better after five years. Hopefully, if our guy is re-signed, he's learning to be better at his job too.
- LeftCoaster

You probably are Tanner.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 2:09 AM ET
No...it was definitely warranted, but he's learned and he's getting better after five years. Hopefully, if our guy is re-signed, he's learning to be better at his job too.
- LeftCoaster

I won't edit my last comment. I'll make a new one. "he's learned" What exactly did he learn? He traded a 4th round pick for Colin Wilson and then traded away one of there better players. Team starts winning and you call it "learning". You're (frank)ed.

You are definitely (frank)ed.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 19 @ 2:17 AM ET
I won't edit my last comment. I'll make a new one. "he's learned" What exactly did he learn? He traded a 4th round pick for Colin Wilson and then traded away one of there better players. Team starts winning and you call it "learning". You're (frank)ed.

You are definitely (frank)ed.

- manvanfan



https://milehighsticking....sakic-developing-good-gm/

http://abcnews.go.com/Spo...on-matt/story?id=50954614
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 19 @ 2:29 AM ET


https://milehighsticking....sakic-developing-good-gm/

http://abcnews.go.com/Spo...on-matt/story?id=50954614

- LeftCoaster

You read the same stories I did.

So JB isn't much different then a lot of other GM's

Maybe it was more of a plan then "learning". No one really knows. A lot of GM's with the same issues around the league then.
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