Boss34
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3 actually. Lehner is RFA, and Scandella has term left. But thanks for coming out - Pegullaville
Wasn't sure if you were kidding?
Apparently not.
Rfa is considered an expiring contract. Restricted or not, his contract is ending. |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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On paper it’s a 1st, 3rd and a prospect. Slim to none chance the team that trades for him resigns him. And the team would have to make the Eastern/Wetern conference final for the 3rd to turn into a 2nd. So best case scenario is a 1st, 2nd, defensive prospect, roster player which is most likely a marginal player with limited upside apart from rounding out the defense corps. - Pegullaville
you said a first and an a rated prospect though... |
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DDM-Coga
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Wasn't sure if you were kidding?
Apparently not.
Rfa is considered an expiring contract. Restricted or not, his contract is ending. - Boss34
its definitely ending, 4m QO for him as an RFA....yikes. He gets moved but no one is qualifying him. |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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its definitely ending, 4m QO for him as an RFA....yikes. He gets moved but no one is qualifying him. - DDM-Coga
The 4 mil isn't a problem if you're playing him as a fringe starter. |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Sometimes you use a second to get Deslauriers, sometimes you get Guhle
or Fasching
or Gorges - jcragcrumple
Or Hurley
Or Karabacek
Or Cornel
Ugh
If you’re gonna miss on a 2nd rounder,
at least do it on a defenseman
Bc teams will still trade for him thinking he could still develop
When u take a forward that high & he doesn’t pan out, it’s just a blown pick with no hope of getting a return |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Or Hurley
Or Karabacek
Or Cornel
Ugh
If you’re gonna miss on a 2nd rounder,
at least do it on a defenseman
Bc teams will still trade for him thinking he could still develop
When u take a forward that high & he doesn’t pan out, it’s just a blown pick with no hope of getting a return - jdfitz77
are there actually legit examples of this? |
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MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Bay Area, CA Joined: 06.20.2012
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On paper it’s a 1st, 3rd and a prospect. Slim to none chance the team that trades for him resigns him. And the team would have to make the Eastern/Wetern conference final for the 3rd to turn into a 2nd. So best case scenario is a 1st, 2nd, defensive prospect, roster player which is most likely a marginal player with limited upside apart from rounding out the defense corps. - Pegullaville
You said a 1st, A rated defense prospect, A roster player and a 3rd that could turn into another 1st or a 2nd. That GM should prob be fired |
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DDM-Coga
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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The 4 mil isn't a problem if you're playing him as a fringe starter. - Sabresfan-365
the UFA goalie market this offseason is really slim pickings so maybe if a team needs a short term fix, he might have value there |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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its definitely ending, 4m QO for him as an RFA....yikes. He gets moved but no one is qualifying him. - DDM-Coga
Someone may resign him if they are looking to draft near the top of the 2019 nhl draft. |
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MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Bay Area, CA Joined: 06.20.2012
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are there actually legit examples of this? - Sabresfan-365
Mike Weber? (im joking) |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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the UFA goalie market this offseason is really slim pickings so maybe if a team needs a short term fix, he might have value there - DDM-Coga
Decent stop gap if you've got a young goalie coming through or trying to run a 1a/1b set up. |
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DDM-Coga
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Decent stop gap if you've got a young goalie coming through or trying to run a 1a/1b set up. - Sabresfan-365
what is the hopes for him...a 2nd rounder? DOnt think you can get that 1st round pick in value back |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Mike Weber? (im joking) - MCGUIZZY
I get his logic behind it, I just don't think it actually happens to a degree that would make you say drafting d-men instead of bpa is better because that trade value is there. |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Wasn't sure if you were kidding?
Apparently not.
Rfa is considered an expiring contract. Restricted or not, his contract is ending. - Boss34
Yes but pending an offer sheet Lehner would realistically be on the opening night roster the following season or traded for an asset like a 3rd or possibly a 2nd. So even if they move him for a third the team recoups two 3rd rounders and better possible playoff odds for a 2nd or a possible first round pick in the 25-30 range |
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Sabresfan-365
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what is the hopes for him...a 2nd rounder? DOnt think you can get that 1st round pick in value back - DDM-Coga
Id be fine with a 2nd or some kind of prospect and a third. The true value would be in finding a cheaper short term guy while giving the keys to Ullmark |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Decent stop gap if you've got a young goalie coming through or trying to run a 1a/1b set up. - Sabresfan-365
There might be a market still for lehner. Like you said, split duties.
If he isn't tendered and becomes a ufa, I could see ottawa calling. Anderson is not the answer. |
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DDM-Coga
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Id be fine with a 2nd or some kind of prospect and a third. The true value would be in finding a cheaper short term guy while giving the keys to Ullmark - Sabresfan-365
So you are saying you might want to trade for Hammond if you move Lehner
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DDM-Coga
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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There might be a market still for lehner. Like you said, split duties.
If he isn't tendered and becomes a ufa, I could see ottawa calling. Anderson is not the answer. - Boss34
he isnt QO even if a team that trades for him wants to resign him
Pens did that with J Shultz....he was too expensive based on all the money oilers gave him so they let him become a UFA to sign him at a cheaper rate |
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Sabresfan-365
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RhinoFan
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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I know jarvis laundry isn't a buffalo Bills "new regime" guy, but he's having contract issues in miami. Feeling disrespected.
He's a target high player, good age for a free agent.
Bills may pass for attitude issues, but he could open up the offense. Give new qb a prime play making target - Boss34
Landry's hit on Aaron Williams kills that idea IMO. Half the Bills still hate him for that hit. |
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DDM-Coga
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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hey we got rid of GMTM back off - Sabresfan-365
Avs are undefeated in the Hammond sitting on the bench era....I mean the value is there |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Yes but pending an offer sheet Lehner would realistically be on the opening night roster the following season or traded for an asset like a 3rd or possibly a 2nd. So even if they move him for a third the team recoups two 3rd rounders and better possible playoff odds for a 2nd or a possible first round pick in the 25-30 range - Pegullaville
If a legitimate playoff team loses their top goalie, maybe they would be willing to pay up.
I see the Sabres trading with Pittsburgh for 1 of there 3 young goalies. Maybe roll with 2 youngsters next year.
Ullmark and jarry ?
Jbotts knows these guys well from the baby pens |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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are there actually legit examples of this? - Sabresfan-365
Griffin Reinhart went for a 1st well after he was known to be a bust
He was picked higher,
so maybe that example doesn’t work for my 2nd round point
I’m at work now,
but I’ll see if i can do some research & get back to you |
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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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So you are saying you might want to trade for Zadarov if you move Lehner - DDM-Coga
Lehner or no Lehner, we'll take em back. |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Landry's hit on Aaron Williams kills that idea IMO. Half the Bills still hate him for that hit. - RhinoFan
That hit was cheap for sure.
Lot's of turnover with personal though.
Different coach and gm |
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