I think we are at an impass here.
I really dont care what he does.
You make it sound like teams that are set up to win now all just have an extra 10-12M under the cap laying around.
I said 100M should do it and you are making it sound like nonsense.
- TheHank

“Where are we going with John Tavares?”

Let me re-iterate a long-standing belief: that, all things being equal, Tavares’s preference is to stay. But he craves winning and we are approaching a landmark moment in his situation — an indication of whether or not he is willing to sign an extension on July 1.

-Elliott Friedman “30 Thoughts”

I think we are at an impass here.
I really dont care what he does.
You make it sound like teams that are set up to win now all just have an extra 10-12M under the cap laying around.
I said 100M should do it and you are making it sound like nonsense.
- TheHank

“Tavares isn’t just gonna blindly sign the 8 year deal, he wants to see... (what’s gonna happen with mgmt,etc)”

-BobMcKenzie

I remember my first hockeybuzz

I think we are at an impass here.
I really dont care what he does.
You make it sound like teams that are set up to win now all just have an extra 10-12M under the cap laying around.
I said 100M should do it and you are making it sound like nonsense.
- TheHank

“Darren Dreger believes that John Tavares would be interested in playing for the Canadiens. [FanRag Sports]“


*Weird, since they can only sign him to a 7 year deal... hmmmm

Nylander hasn't recorded a shot for Rochester in 8 games.

Nylander hasn't recorded a shot for Rochester in 8 games.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Yikes
That’s not the kind of progress we were looking for

Yikes
That’s not the kind of progress we were looking for
- jdfitz77

Because he should be in a league where the emphasis isn't grinding..

Give him a shot in the NHL...if he flunks out...move on

Yikes
That’s not the kind of progress we were looking for
- jdfitz77

it's also wrong.


He had 3 shots 3 games ago against syracuse


The stat he got that from was 8 periods without a shot, not 8 games.

Because he should be in a league where the emphasis isn't grinding..

Give him a shot in the NHL...if he flunks out...move on
- feetontheair22

I get that...
but he’s still gotta show some progression

Good point though,
let’s get a look at him up here at least

it's also wrong.


He had 3 shots 3 games ago against syracuse


The stat he got that from was 8 periods without a shot, not 8 games.
- Sabresfan-365

Phew...
that’s not as bad then

Hoping Nylander works out
Especially since it looks like we are trading Kane

When teams are trading for players,
they focus on the upside & what they’re good at

Kane’s value has gone UP
Botts isn’t asking for MORE bc no one is interested
- jdfitz77

Kane's value is not higher now or "up" from when he was scoring consistently. Please try and explain this again?

Kane still played his game today, he was hitting and working hard. Teams want some scoring if they are giving up good picks/prospects

Nice. I cant for the life of me understand how anyone couldnt at this point though. Its so painfully obvious how atrocious he is. Id bet he isnt even in the league 2 years from now... Should be sooner.
- TheHank

I totally agree, I'm sure you'll find a few people that disagree still.

Fair enough

Is there any impass over $$$ or would JT be signed by now for 100mil or whatever?

Why isn’t JT signed yet?
- jdfitz77

Maybe JT believes in negotiations. Why just sign?
Maybe he wants to weigh his options around the league ?
Maybe he is a huge bandits fan and wants to come to buffalo and buy bandits season tickets?

Phew...
that’s not as bad then

Hoping Nylander works out
Especially since it looks like we are trading Kane
- jdfitz77

as bad as our nylander has been, his brother has fallen off a cliff too.


They're both awful away from the puck, Willy was getting the points though

it's also wrong.


He had 3 shots 3 games ago against syracuse


The stat he got that from was 8 periods without a shot, not 8 games.
- Sabresfan-365

Correct sorry. Not good though on a team playing well.

Kane's value is not higher now or "up" from when he was scoring consistently. Please try and explain this again?

Kane still played his game today, he was hitting and working hard. Teams want some scoring if they are giving up good picks/prospects
- Boss34

Well if Kane’s value was down...
then Botts wouldn’t have upped his ask

How is it possible that his value has gone up even though he’s not scoring at the same pace?

There must be a lot of teams calling about him

Obviously i don’t KNOW all this for fact
Just connecting the dots

Maybe JT believes in negotiations. Why just sign?
Maybe he wants to weigh his options around the league ?
Maybe he is a huge bandits fan and wants to come to buffalo and buy bandits season tickets?
- Boss34

Over course
There’s more to it than just the $$$
That’s what I’ve been saying all along

Nylander hasn't recorded a shot for Rochester in 8 games.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Since he came back from juniors.... 6 shots on goal...in first 3 games. 0 shots on goal in last 3 games.... ZERO points....

What a crap pick he was.

Since he came back from juniors.... 6 shots on goal...in first 3 games. 0 shots on goal in last 3 games.... ZERO points....

What a crap pick he was.
- gordong

I’m not giving up on him yet
Hopefully he’ll still make some progress
We’re only at the halfway point this season

Well if Kane’s value was down...
then Botts wouldn’t have upped his ask

How is it possible that his value has gone up even though he’s not scoring at the same pace?

There must be a lot of teams calling about him

Obviously i don’t KNOW all this for fact
Just connecting the dots
- jdfitz77

I'm pretty sure it's all just speculation. Who really knows how many teams are involved?

I do know that when a player scores less, there is less interest in that player, not more. Kane is still working hard and creating, hopefully that helps, but that's always been his game.

I'm pretty sure it's all just speculation. Who really knows how many teams are involved?

I do know that when a player scores less, there is less interest in that player, not more. Kane is still working hard and creating, hopefully that helps, but that's always been his game.
- Boss34

It’s not like Kane is suddenly a sh!tty player
Teams are still gonna be interested in the top player on the market

If there was less interest like u suggest...
that how do u explain Botts ask going up?

On the bright side mittlestadt has a goal tonight.

Sure, teams are terrified of not having enough depth on D.
- Wetbandit1

True, but Gorges comes with a 3.9m cap hit (pro-rated, of course). I don't think he'd be claimed. If you retain half his cap hit, then maybe you get something token for him in a trade. It's still a tough fit for most teams...and it's Gorges.

True, but Gorges comes with a 3.9m cap hit (pro-rated, of course). I don't think he'd be claimed. If you retain half his cap hit, then maybe you get something token for him in a trade. It's still a tough fit for most teams...and it's Gorges.
- Lunaion

I don’t think we will get much...
but teams will have the Cap room & desire for a depth defenseman at the deadline

Weber got a 3rd
Gorges isn’t a top4 guy
But i think someone would trade a pick to have him as insurance

It’s not like Kane is suddenly a sh!tty player
Teams are still gonna be interested in the top player on the market

If there was less interest like u suggest...
that how do u explain Botts ask going up?
- jdfitz77

I'm not sure if it's fact, his original ask or what he currently wants. They are rumors.

Kane is not scoring like he was. That is fact. Again, how does that make him worth more? His current lack of scoring?