I expect the Jets to run over us a lot next game. Curious to see how we bounce back.
- Nighthawk

Back to back with travel time...

7-2 Jets.

And I wasn't far off of my 6-1 Oil prediction tonight.

This team is so bad. We need talent at every single position.
Defense is the biggest problem for this organization. There are 3 nhl quality defensemen, Edler Tanev and Gudbranson, with very little help on the way.
Time to stop picking bpa after 1st round. Team needs too desperately focus on this position.
Was hoping too see a little more excitement from this group, but, that only lasted for the first 20 games, back to having mops during these games.
Oh well, next year might be a bit better.
- Reubenkincade

Then we need to acquire more 2nds

This team is so bad. We need talent at every single position.
Defense is the biggest problem for this organization. There are 3 nhl quality defensemen, Edler Tanev and Gudbranson, with very little help on the way.
Time to stop picking bpa after 1st round. Team needs too desperately focus on this position.
Was hoping too see a little more excitement from this group, but, that only lasted for the first 20 games, back to having mops during these games.
Oh well, next year might be a bit better.
- Reubenkincade

Stecher looked lost tonight. Sutter was totally invisible other than the goal. Sedins very tough to watch. Marky good for 4-5 GPG...gonna be a tough haul til years end...

BPA is only good for top 5. After that...fill your bloody needs.

I'm pretty curious as well, I remember when he first played here in the pre-season and regular season and he was his usual self and then things changed all of a sudden. I know he got suspended for the hit against the Sharks on Polak(I was like 25 feet away from that hit lol).

Either it was the repetitive shoulder injuries, the Canucks staff telling him to dial it back physically and focus on doing other things, or maybe the league suspension scared him. Maybe a combination of everything.

Too soon to call him a bust or anything, but if he's still at this stage of his development by the end of next season then it's time to be really worried.
- Nucker101

He definitely has not been the same since this incident.

Stecher should be in press box or ahl
- Reubenkincade

good pass by the linesman.

He is so inconsistent.
Softies on the 1st shot of a game.
Rebound control is back-up quality
All said he can make great saves but he takes the air out of a team too often.
- Nighthawk

I agree, you can almost predict it, good but not good enough.

8-3-1 on pizza night

Back to back with travel time...

7-2 Jets.

And I wasn't far off of my 6-1 Oil prediction tonight.
- LordHumungous

Two bad teams going at it, is what I saw.

He definitely has not been the same since this incident.
- Reubenkincade

I told everyone that, it will change him because the league gave it to him in the meeting and it wasn't even that bad he knows it benning knows it, anyone that knows the game knows it.

I agree, you can almost predict it, good but not good enough.
- Bettmanhatesus

Placeholder is all unless he decides to get his game to the next level. Tic Toc...

The 2019-20 season is when we should expect to see what these prospects amount to. Given thats a ways away the D needs major focus. OJ & maybe Holm & idk about Brisebois but that's pretty skinny stuff. If Tree is back a lot changes.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-play-next-season/sn-amp/

The 2019-20 season is when we should expect to see what these prospects amount to. Given thats a ways away the D needs major focus. OJ & maybe Holm & idk about Brisebois but that's pretty skinny stuff. If Tree is back a lot changes.
- Nighthawk

I would agree with this and even say 2020/21 might be a more realistic timeframe. Kids need proper development, as in two to three years before they even enter the league let alone produce. Unless you're lucky enough to draft a kid first overall.

Horvat was sheltered his first year which was his D+2 year, his D+3 year he was thrown to the wolves somewhat and came out alright, this year is his D+4 year and he really took off before the injury.

Kids like Lind, Gadjovich and even that skinny Swedish kid are gonna take some time to develop. It's not a linear timeline for all prospects but a couple years of development is not out of the question for all of them.

Random trade thoughts...

Marky to NYI
EG to NYI
Package deal for Bellows/Halak/1st
Halak is a UFA & a salary dump.
NYI can talk to EG about signing.

Vanek/6th for Thomas (StL)

MDZ for Hajek (TBL)


Some out there dreaming but its a start

I would agree with this and even say 2020/21 might be a more realistic timeframe. Kids need proper development, as in two to three years before they even enter the league let alone produce. Unless you're lucky enough to draft a kid first overall.

Horvat was sheltered his first year which was his D+2 year, his D+3 year he was thrown to the wolves somewhat and came out alright, this year is his D+4 year and he really took off before the injury.

Kids like Lind, Gadjovich and even that skinny Swedish kid are gonna take some time to develop. It's not a linear timeline for all prospects but a couple years of development is not out of the question for all of them.
- LeftCoaster

I agree that 2020-21 is the real time to see results. ALL current prospects should be NHL ready or AHLers only by then. 2019-20 should show us big encouraging signs. The D is a sore spot.

The 2019-20 season is when we should expect to see what these prospects amount to. Given thats a ways away the D needs major focus. OJ & maybe Holm & idk about Brisebois but that's pretty skinny stuff. If Tree is back a lot changes.
- Nighthawk

brisbois is not a legit nhl prospect, at best is another bottom pairing guy and i highly doubt you even get that.

brisbois is not a legit nhl prospect, at best is another bottom pairing guy and i highly doubt you even get that.
- mauryballstein

Yes pretty much my expectations also.

brisbois is not a legit nhl prospect, at best is another bottom pairing guy and i highly doubt you even get that.
- mauryballstein

I listened to the game tonight and they complimented brisebois for his improved play since the start of the season, hes coming along.

I agree that 2020-21 is the real time to see results. ALL current prospects should be NHL ready or AHLers by then. 2019-20 should show us big encouraging signs. The D is a sore spot.
- Nighthawk

Definitely...needs to be addressed by management sooner than later!!!!

Definitely...needs to be addressed by management sooner than later!!!!
- LeftCoaster

The need for dynamic D has long been a problem & only drafting them is the answer.
Even if we have to move out players this TDL i believe its necessary we nab 2 very good D this upcoming draft. Done right we can do it.

Eriksson down to fourth line. Next stop press box
- VANTEL

should be the garbage pail

cant recall seeing a more useless player. Getting outplayed by chaput

Definitely...needs to be addressed by management sooner than later!!!!
- LeftCoaster

Benning (or whoever replaces him if that's the route they go) better pray to God that OJ is the best D from 2015 and that they can get Tree back in a year or two or they are going to be stuck with the Huttons and Stetchers and Pouliots of the world trying to protect leads and keep Demko from being run regularily... it's not a pretty sight.

Benning (or whoever replaces him if that's the route they go) better pray to God that OJ is the best D from 2015 and that they can get Tree back in a year or two or they are going to be stuck with the Huttons and Stetchers and Pouliots of the world trying to protect leads and keep Demko from being run regularily... it's not a pretty sight.
- DariusKnight

The Canucks were so lucky in 2010 and 2011 right when they were ready to compete for the Cup they were able to add Ehrhoff and Hamhuis to the top four group, both of them were 27 years old and in their prime.

Hopefully they don't leave the "D" to luck again, it needs attention!!

Canucks literally have no hate-able players for other teams, Virtanen was that guy in the WHL before he was neutered somehow by the Canucks or maybe his shoulder injuries.



Need some cocky bastards.
- Nucker101

I recognize you don’t like the current management group....but that’s not how real life works. Benning didn’t tell Jake to stop playing physical. The kid is scared or confused. That happens. Somebody probably stepped up and hurt Jake. Stop blaiming external factors for Jakes shortcomings. Only Jake can determine what kind of player he wants to be. Management isn’t telling him to stop playing physical! Let’s be realistic in 2018 because I can’t tolerate anymore delusional bs

I recognize you don’t like the current management group....but that’s not how real life works. Benning didn’t tell Jake to stop playing physical. The kid is scared or confused. That happens. Somebody probably stepped up and hurt Jake. Stop blaiming external factors for Jakes shortcomings. Only Jake can determine what kind of player he wants to be. Management isn’t telling him to stop playing physical! Let’s be realistic in 2018 because I can’t tolerate anymore delusional bs
- CanuckDon

He stopped playing physical because it was taking him out of position too much, Green was working with him on not taking runs at guys in the neutral zone like he used to. Not to mention the team isn't really built to back him up if he makes a big hit and he gets jumped by other players who aren't happy about it. Not to mention that I don't think he's fully healed from his shoulder injuries, those take a long time to heal, and at the speed he plays, making the kind of hits people want HURTS a lot even if you're the hitter and not the hittee.

People need to stop with the Bertuzzi comparisons or even expecting JV to magically blossom into that, being a so-called "power forward" in this era isn't the same as during the 90's when you had players like Lindros, LeClair, Bertuzzi, Neely et. al scoring 30-40 goals and making Rock 'em Sock 'em highlight hits. It's clear that JV isn't much of a scorer, or much of a banger at this point. He's a tweener like JVR or Lupul was but without their scoring touch. With his speed, he'll likely be a very good bottom 6 forechecker and net presence, good for maybe 5-10 goals and 10-20 points a season. Honestly, he was picked too high for his skillset, and honestly that's not his fault.