Sabres 6-2

I'd say you have a point if every team in the NHL didn't do this bullpoop. The Red Wings(when they were good) used to keep players in the AHL for years after they were ready while dressing Drew Miller on a nightly basis.
- Wetbandit1

I like to use the Justin Bailey example here

When called up this season,
he played 3 or 4 games with O’Reilly & scores 2 goals
Then was knocked down to the 4th line,
and scored none until sent back to Roch

If we wanna see if these guys can play in our top9...
then we have to put them in a position to be successful
Not on the 4th line with Josefson, Nolan, etc

Sabres 6-2
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I like that ending better.

6-2 Sabres

It's fine he's just doing his thing

We all have frustrations imagine when we're good we might be talking about hugging each other ha
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Trump voters are difficult to reason with.

I think the other two have a higher ceiling and tkachuk has the higher floor if that makes sense
- Sabresfan-365

It makes perfect sense. You kind of know what you're getting with Tkachuk, but Svechnikov and Zadina could be Bure(not really, but you get the point) or Yakupov.

But is Svechnikov really that good? His stats this year, while good, aren't 2nd overall good.

Reinhart's draft year junior numbers are a lot better. Now the season isn't over yet, so I'll wait and see, but it seems kind of underwhelming. Especially in the OHL where they hand out points like rubbers at an orgy.

I like to use the Justin Bailey example here

When called up this season,
he played 3 or 4 games with O’Reilly & scores 2 goals
Then was knocked down to the 4th line,
and scored none until sent back to Roch

If we wanna see if these guys can play in our top9...
then we have to put them in a position to be successful
Not on the 4th line with Josefson, Nolan, etc
- jdfitz77

Yeah, but again, this is standard practice around the NHL. The Sabres are hardly unique in that.

It's whatever if we're not drafted first overall

Zadina is just going to be the pick he will basically be Jacks Dany Heatley
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So Jack is Jason Spezza?

What the F$$K is dilly dilly loser, the only complainer on here is you.
- SABRES 89

Relax, we don't need you stroking out.

He knows how to push your buttons, just ignore him.

Dilly dilly is from a series of stupid, really stupid Bud Light commercials.

Edit: Hatty plus 1. Where did everyone go? Dinner time?

It makes perfect sense. You kind of know what you're getting with Tkachuk, but Svechnikov and Zadina could be Bure(not really, but you get the point) or Yakupov.

But is Svechnikov really that good? His stats this year, while good, aren't 2nd overall good.

Reinhart's draft year junior numbers are a lot better. Now the season isn't over yet, so I'll wait and see, but it seems kind of underwhelming. Especially in the OHL where they hand out points like rubbers at an orgy.
- Wetbandit1

He broke his hand in the beginning of the year. Missed like 2 month i think.

You should watch this. Different planet then Reinhart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_iYyg6Fwd0&t=273s

He broke his hand in the beginning of the year. Missed like 2 month i think.

You should watch this. Different planet then Reinhart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_iYyg6Fwd0&t=273s
- MCGUIZZY

Ahh, gotcha. Even last year's numbers in the USHL weren't fantastic though.

Yeah, but again, this is standard practice around the NHL. The Sabres are hardly unique in that.
- Wetbandit1

Idk about that

To your Red Wings point...
u never saw Larkin or Nyqvist on line4
Although i do remember Abdelkader having to work his way up

Maybe Bailey can follow that path, but would u wanna do that with Nylander or Mittelstadt?

And what about when the Pens were playing guys like Sheary & Kuhnackle in the top9 so they could spread scoring over 3 lines?

I’m not saying just gift these guys a spot
Obviously they need to earn it

But if you’re gonna bring up Baptiste, E Rod, Bailey, etc...
let’s see them play in the top9 with some talent
That’s gonna tell us more about what player they can become than sticking them on line4 in a “grinder” role for 8min

It just doesn’t seem like we will gain much outta that

Otherwise...
just let them play in Roch & bring back scrubs like Griffith & Criscuolo to fill in the blanks

Idk about that

To your Red Wings point...
u never saw Larkin or Nyqvist on line4
Although i do remember Abdelkader having to work his way up

Maybe Bailey can follow that path, but would u wanna do that with Nylander or Mittelstadt?

And what about when the Pens were playing guys like Sheary & Kuhnackle in the top9 so they could spread scoring over 3 lines?

I’m not saying just gift these guys a spot
Obviously they need to earn it

But if you’re gonna bring up Baptiste, E Rod, Bailey, etc...
let’s see them play in the top9 with some talent
That’s gonna tell us more about what player they can become than sticking them on line4 in a “grinder” role for 8min

It just doesn’t seem like we will gain much outta that

Otherwise...
just let them play in Roch & bring back scrubs like Griffith & Criscuolo to fill in the blanks
- jdfitz77

It's not like just one Sabres coach has done it either, every one since Lindy has done it.

Every team does it.

It makes perfect sense. You kind of know what you're getting with Tkachuk, but Svechnikov and Zadina could be Bure(not really, but you get the point) or Yakupov.

But is Svechnikov really that good? His stats this year, while good, aren't 2nd overall good.

Reinhart's draft year junior numbers are a lot better. Now the season isn't over yet, so I'll wait and see, but it seems kind of underwhelming. Especially in the OHL where they hand out points like rubbers at an orgy.
- Wetbandit1

Look at Svechnikov’s ppg
He was hurt early in the year
His numbers are actually very good considering

It’s a coin flip at #2 for me between him & Zadina
I think both will likely be very good

It's not like just one Sabres coach has done it either, every one since Lindy has done it.

Every team does it.
- Wetbandit1

Not exclusively like you’re making it sound
There’s lots of examples of young talent playing in the top9, and even top6, & not having to play 8min a night on line 4

And it’s different when your team is in contention vs being totally out of it

Sabres 6-2
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Dyslexic much? Or bad synthetics?

It's not like just one Sabres coach has done it either, every one since Lindy has done it.

Every team does it.
- Wetbandit1

http://www.espn.com/nhl/p...year/2014/nikita-kucherov

Kucherov, late second rd pick played less then 10 minutes 4 times in his rookie year


IMO this is how any player with top 6 upside should be treated

Look at Svechnikov’s ppg
He was hurt early in the year
His numbers are actually very good considering

It’s a coin flip at #2 for me between him & Zadina
I think both will likely be very good
- jdfitz77

19 goals in 23 OHL games for Svechnikov.31 goals in 13 games in Russia U16 league that saw the likes of Ovi and Malkin go through there. I’m a huge fan of Zadina also. I take both before TK

Not exclusively like you’re making it sound
There’s lots of examples of young talent playing in the top9, and even top6, & not having to play 8min a night on line 4

And it’s different when your team is in contention vs being totally out of it
- jdfitz77

I don't like making excuses for Bailey. He skates like a crazed lunatic for his first 2 games after every call up and everyone gets excited. After that, he slowly disappears. I still have no idea if he has a future in the NHL, and the same goes for all of the Amerks forwards. Nylander's first round status will get him a longer look, but I imagine they are going to let his ELC slide again.

Look at Svechnikov’s ppg
He was hurt early in the year
His numbers are actually very good considering

It’s a coin flip at #2 for me between him & Zadina
I think both will likely be very good
- jdfitz77

I did. 1.5 something Reinhart was 1.75.

Edit: 1.33 for Svechnikov this year. Didn't know about the injury. But Reinhart also missed time in his draft year.

19 goals in 23 OHL games for Svechnikov.31 goals in 13 games in Russia U16 league that saw the likes of Ovi and Malkin go through there. I’m a huge fan of Zadina also. I take both before TK
- Pegullaville

I'm not saying he's bad, but this just feels like 2014 to me. A defenseman and a handful of forwards who may or may not be good.

I like to use the Justin Bailey example here

When called up this season,
he played 3 or 4 games with O’Reilly & scores 2 goals
Then was knocked down to the 4th line,
and scored none until sent back to Roch

If we wanna see if these guys can play in our top9...
then we have to put them in a position to be successful
Not on the 4th line with Josefson, Nolan, etc
- jdfitz77

I'm not saying he's bad, but this just feels like 2014 to me. A defenseman and a handful of forwards who may or may not be good.
- Wetbandit1

yeah its starting to feel that way to me too.


Svechnikov has that bennett feel. All the right tools, but will he ever put it together? Hes got decent scoring #s 5v5, Zadina's are better.

19 goals in 23 OHL games for Svechnikov.31 goals in 13 games in Russia U16 league that saw the likes of Ovi and Malkin go through there. I’m a huge fan of Zadina also. I take both before TK
- Pegullaville

Agreed
I’m not sold on Tkachuk
I think he might have trouble acing in the NHL

I don't like making excuses for Bailey. He skates like a crazed lunatic for his first 2 games after every call up and everyone gets excited. After that, he slowly disappears. I still have no idea if he has a future in the NHL, and the same goes for all of the Amerks forwards. Nylander's first round status will get him a longer look, but I imagine they are going to let his ELC slide again.
- Lunaion

Idk that I’m making excuses
When he played with O’Reilly, he scored
When he got bumped to the 4th line,
he didn’t

I get your point by about his style of play
But what I’m saying is that these guys are extremely unlikely to produce on the 4th line

And if we wanna see if they can play in the top9, then we need to leave them there for an extended period

I see no point to bringing a prospect up to play 8min on the 4th line