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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jan 23 @ 12:19 PM ET
Shoulder/ rotator cuff -

Fluke?

- Boss34



That was the year he was traded here, right?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:19 PM ET
Shoulder/ rotator cuff -

Fluke?

- Boss34

cracked ribs on a hit, and a knee to the boards


that is the extent of kane's injuries during his tenure as a sabre


it's not a connolly or ennis situation with a concussion flag or an allergic reaction to equipment


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 23 @ 12:20 PM ET
not talking about "people"

kane is in the top 40 in the entire nhl for scoring goals in the last year and a half


there is only 31 teams


he is not nearly as bad as some make it out to be


THIS MEANS ON AVERAGE HE IS MOST LIKELY THE SECOND BEST GOAL SCORER ON MOST TEAMS


what do teams want in the playoffs


GOALS

- homiedclown



He's not the great goal scorer you make him out to be tho.

He averages under 20 a year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:21 PM ET
His value is not dropping that much if at all. Teams knew who Kane was, and this season does nothing to change that mindset. At this point, his trade value exceeds the value of services rendered by far, especially if the conversation of a 7 year contract is realistic. He needs to be traded.
- buffalofan19

agreed


and it really doesn't matter if he is putting up a point every 3 games with larsson right now or 4 points every 3 games with jack


one team will up the offer, be it bolts, kings, ducks etc

and then kane will be moved
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:22 PM ET
He's not the great goal scorer you make him out to be tho.

He averages under 20 a year

- jcragcrumple

kane is in the top 40 in the entire nhl for scoring goals in the last year and a half


there is only 31 teams


I CAN'T HELP YOU ANYMORE


Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:22 PM ET
It stands to reason that if he were as hot as Jack right now, Kane's value would be super high, however, it also stands to reason that his cold spell hasn't relegated him to has been status. He's still the #1 rental on the market and we will get a nice return. Step away from the ledge. Trust the process.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:23 PM ET
It stands to reason that if he were as hot as Jack right now, Kane's value would be super high, however, it also stands to reason that his cold spell hasn't relegated him to has been status. He's still the #1 rental on the market and we will get a nice return. Step away from the ledge. Trust the process.
- Khmylev



I agree. I just don't think that the return will be any better or worse at the deadline than it is now. The only thing that would change that (for worse) is injury.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
player x plays with crosby


player y plays with tavares


player z plays with larsson/antropov


player z stinks because he only puts up 25 goals with those scrubs


moulson and okposo clearly prove this theory


buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
kane is in the top 40 in the entire nhl for scoring goals in the last year and a half


there is only 31 teams


I CAN'T HELP YOU ANYMORE

- homiedclown


Sounds to me like a number of players when they are closer to a new contract than not. They tend to play above their career average.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
He's not the great goal scorer you make him out to be tho.

He averages under 20 a year

- jcragcrumple


Stop with all the facts. It's opinions that matter here.

These guys were saying kane was the best guy on the sabres and nicknamed eichel "clank". Let's trade risto group.

Eichel and Risto are the only 2 bright spots on the current roster, but they take all the greif.

That's whats important, not 173 goals over parts of 9 nhl seasons.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
kane is in the top 40 in the entire nhl for scoring goals in the last year and a half


there is only 31 teams


I CAN'T HELP YOU ANYMORE

- homiedclown




Well i didn't ask for your help.


You're excluding previous sample size, i am not. Both of these things are true:

- He has scored a lot in the past 18 months

- he averages under 20 goals and 18 assists per year.

Does a GM base a trade on 18 months, or 8 years? Probably 18 months, but they're foolish to do so
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
It stands to reason that if he were as hot as Jack right now, Kane's value would be super high, however, it also stands to reason that his cold spell hasn't relegated him to has been status. He's still the #1 rental on the market and we will get a nice return. Step away from the ledge. Trust the process.
- Khmylev


This is a great post.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
1 of about 4 teams IMO
- homiedclown


Montreal, Ottawa, Us
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
luke adam is a name i didnt picture myself reading today
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
luke adam is a name i didnt picture myself reading today
- robz228



I have Thomas Vanek/Luke Adam tourette's

When someone mentions vanek under performing, or not making people around him better, i yell "LUKE ADAM"
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
Maybe they are showcasing Okposo....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
Well i didn't ask for your help.



- jcragcrumple

pretty sure Yzerman expects Kane to perform better with Stamkos and Kuch then he is with Larsson and Pommer

and if you don't like my response, stop posting senseless crap in a hockey thread


you are so off base on this


lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/talent...playoff-matchups-1.975525

This is a good article. I've always hated the new format
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
I agree. I just don't think that the return will be any better or worse at the deadline than it is now. The only thing that would change that (for worse) is injury.
- buffalofan19


Injury on another team could make it better as well.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
Sounds to me like a number of players when they are closer to a new contract than not. They tend to play above their career average.
- buffalofan19

and if kane is playing with getz/perry

or kopitar

or stamkos and kuch

or tavares


the gm knows he is getting an upgrade at LW, perhaps the thinnest position up front in the nhl
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:33 PM ET
Maybe they are showcasing Okposo....

- jochfr

he gets to list a partial list of teams for trade this offseason

no guarantees he stays
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:33 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/talent/nhl-is-headed-for-more-skewed-first-round-playoff-matchups-1.975525

This is a good article. I've always hated the new format

- lulags



I forgot where I saw it, but the best idea I ever saw for a playoff format was top 16 make the playoffs. Top seed picks its opponent. Then the second seed, and then so on and so forth.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
pretty sure Yzerman expects Kane to perform better with Stamkos and Kuch then he is with Larsson and Pommer

and if you don't like my response, stop posting senseless crap in a hockey thread


you are so off base on this

- homiedclown



I posted literal facts about his career averages.

You can't just yell "fake news" at stuff you don't like
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
and if kane is playing with getz/perry

or kopitar

or stamkos and kuch

or tavares


the gm knows he is getting an upgrade at LW, perhaps the thinnest position up front in the nhl

- homiedclown



Which is fine for a rental. That is completely different than signing him for 7 or 8 years, though.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
luke adam is a name i didnt picture myself reading today
- robz228

another all star we had


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