Yeah i don't get it either, its like people think this team was supposed to be good and that its botterills fault the trash murray brought in isn't working out.


On a separate note, this rookie GM thing is laughable. Yzerman was a "rookie", Chiarelli was an experienced cup winner.

Ask Henderson how that's working out
- Sabresfan-365

Pegula also tried experienced, expensive, flashy hires like Rex and Disco and that didn't work. Pegula pays the money to do things right, this is not on him imo

Svechnikov &/or Zadina >>>>> Tkachuk

No longer even close imo at this point
I have serious questions as to whether or not Tkachuk will be a “goal scorer” in the NHL
He’s not even much of one now
- jdfitz77

According to ISS, this assessment is wildly incorrect.

Today @ 12:30 PM ET
Haven't watched football since week 1, don't care.
- SABRES 89


That's because your one of those people that didn't get the meassge that the players are trying to make



PISS OFF LOSER
- SABRES 89

Just telling you how it is ... And yes I'm a loser proud of it

they actually had good possession in the o-zone when they were together the problem was nobody could finish...or pass or do anything really. But I thought Reinhart did a decent job
- Sabresfan-365

I agree
Putting Sam with Kane & Pommer gives him some guys that can actually score though

Who knows?
At this point...
I’m about to hop on the Sam is a bust train

But i still would at least like to see him at Center with some legit wingers
He was drafted as a playmaker

Let’s give him a shot to be that guy, with some linemates who can actually finish

Certainly can’t hurt

I have to go with no. Svech and Zad's are too good, and are what we need with Jack. As for a Dman, while probably end up with a 1st in the Kane deal, take one then. Other than Dahlin, none will be ready, so if we need to revamp the Defense for next season, move RoR and Reinhart for the best they can bring back. If Arizona lands Dahlin, maybe they trade OEL for those two.
- sskkoo1

I agree with the things before the ROR/Reinhart stuff. Grab a special forward, but god damnit, find a dman who can challenge for a spot in the next 2 seasons.

According to ISS, this assessment is wildly incorrect.
- TheSabresTaco

It's whatever if we're not drafted first overall

Zadina is just going to be the pick he will basically be Jacks Dany Heatley

100% disagree

We have a whole pool of forwards coming
No, not all will work out
But some will

We have only Guhle coming on defense
and maybe Borgen
Fitzgerald maybe too

But i could rattle off 10-12 forwards who have top9 or better potential
- jdfitz77

We can’t score and Kane will be gone. I would say Mittelstadt is the only guy with stud potential. All I was saying is if you are at the top of the draft and can’t get Dahlin, you take the stud forward. We need good players no matter the position.

Pegula also tried experienced, expensive, flashy hires like Rex and Disco and that didn't work. Pegula pays the money to do things right, this is not on him imo
- jcragcrumple

GMTM's wild ass expectations still haunt this team's fanbase. To my surprise though, its the over 30 crowd thats mostly been victim to it.

I like our future though

Very true. I pay too much for cable to either watch this train wreck or avoid it, which is mostly what I do now, sadly. I want them to make moves to get me interested again. Not sure if I'll make it to the deadline in all honesty.

Yeah, I could stream it online anyway, but I probably wouldn't. It just pissed me off. Is it so hard to throw the fans a bone and at least try prospects we want to see play with our best players?
- jcragcrumple

I’m with ya man
We all pretty much feel that way

I just don’t know if what we’d like to see is gonna line up with what Botts is trying to accomplish in Rochester this year

***Minny game is on NBCsports Friday night for those who wanna watch Mittelstadt play, 8pm

100% disagree

We have a whole pool of forwards coming
No, not all will work out
But some will

We have only Guhle coming on defense
and maybe Borgen
Fitzgerald maybe too

But i could rattle off 10-12 forwards who have top9 or better potential
- jdfitz77

But we only have one Elite forward coming up as we've seen in the past you can draft defenseman in the 3rd or 4th round you just need to know how to scout

Let's say we do take a defenseman the second best is he going to take two years to develop or is he just going to stay at Michigan and will say okay he'll be here next year .

Yes we need the D but we need scoring

I’m with ya man
We all pretty much feel that way

I just don’t know if what we’d like to see is gonna line up with what Botts is trying to accomplish in Rochester this year

***Minny game is on NBCsports Friday night for those who wanna watch Mittelstadt play, 8pm
- jdfitz77

Oooh nice, thx!

I think the other two have a higher ceiling and tkachuk has the higher floor if that makes sense
- Sabresfan-365

I’m just worried that Tkachuk could turn out to only be a 3rd liner who scores 10-15 goals per season

I love his motor, energy, etc
But it’s a risk if we are looking at him as a top line player
If Zadina &/or Svechnikov don’t turn into stud-like All Stars,
i think they’ll both still be at least 20+ goal guys

Dilly dilly
- chilliard77

chilly, chilly

Just telling you how it is ... And yes I'm a loser proud of it
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Don't tell me S$$T because you don't know S$$T, loser

I wouldn’t go exactly like that...
but yeah
We’d get 2 major pieces we need instead of 1

It’s at least worth considering
Would ARZ make that trade though?
Idk...
we might have to sweeten the pot with more than just McCabe
- jdfitz77

So you would rather have OEL then a franchise changing defenseman we're talking the Connor McDavid of defenseman you better give me Keller and OEL and 1st +

I’m just worried that Tkachuk could turn out to only be a 3rd liner who scores 10-15 goals per season

I love his motor, energy, etc
But it’s a risk if we are looking at him as a top line player
If Zadina &/or Svechnikov don’t turn into stud-like All Stars,
i think they’ll both still be at least 20+ goal guys
- jdfitz77

There's an element of risk with all of them, kinda like the 14 draft. Gotta find the draisaitl and not the 2 sam's.

Don't tell me S$$T because you don't know S$$T, loser
- SABRES 89

I know what a protest is and freedom of speech is apparently you don't


You keep calling me a loser like that's going to hurt my feelings . Smh

According to ISS, this assessment is wildly incorrect.
- TheSabresTaco

Tkachuk has only 5 goals in 24 games this season
And he’s playing with good talent at Boston U

I’m not saying he WON’T be a goal scorer,
but to not be concerned would be foolish

Then look at Svechnikov & Zadina’s stats

Right now...
they just look like much more of a sure thing when it comes to scoring goals

I know what a protest is and freedom of speech is apparently you don't


You keep calling me a loser like that's going to hurt my feelings . Smh
- GERBE!!!75PTS

That's all they know how to do is female dog and complain, it's a joke just like you and all the rest of the losers.

you know nothing

Hes not fully being slept on but I believe BOQVIST will get back into the top 5 and very well could be a Sabres pick if we fall out of top 3.

That's all they know how to do is female dog and complain, it's a joke just like you and all the rest of the losers.

you know nothing
- SABRES 89

Wait you female dog and complain everyday that makes you one of us


Dilly Dilly !

Wait you female dog and complain everyday that makes you one of us


Dilly Dilly !
- GERBE!!!75PTS

What the F$$K is dilly dilly loser, the only complainer on here is you.

So you would rather have OEL then a franchise changing defenseman we're talking the Connor McDavid of defenseman you better give me Keller and OEL and 1st +
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I agree with this. Would you rather have a 18 year old Karlsson (with super low cap hit for 3 years) or OEL at 28 years old and paying ~$10m? I know we would be getting second overall or whatever in your scenario and I can see you are trying to get 2 pieces for 1, but I would need much more to consider that type of a trade. (so much in fact that it is no way Arizona would do it)

We can’t score and Kane will be gone. I would say Mittelstadt is the only guy with stud potential. All I was saying is if you are at the top of the draft and can’t get Dahlin, you take the stud forward. We need good players no matter the position.
- MCGUIZZY

I do agree on taking Zadina or Svechnikov 2nd or 3rd... for sure

And it not that i don’t agree we need help up front

We just have more of a margin of error bc we have so many more top9 potential forward prospects than we do top4 defenseman prospects

But we only have one Elite forward coming up as we've seen in the past you can draft defenseman in the 3rd or 4th round you just need to know how to scout

Let's say we do take a defenseman the second best is he going to take two years to develop or is he just going to stay at Michigan and will say okay he'll be here next year .

Yes we need the D but we need scoring
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I never said to pick a defenseman 2nd or 3rd though
I’d consider one over Tkachuk if we pick 4th