Awe come on.

I see very few people throwing out his save % lately
- sbroads24

Funny how that works.
I have been telling people to just watch him for a long time now.
All the stats in the world didnt and were/are never going to make him good.

Sluts

16th overall

You do know every draft isn't as deep as that 2015 draft right? You know since you can't let go of it
- Stripes77

In all fairness it was the draft that set us back another few years.

Awe come on.

I see very few people throwing out his save % lately
- sbroads24

He is bad and i was wrong.

Irreplaceable
- sbroads24

Man, this guy sucks:


0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 5 6 45.5 20:44
0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 0.0 10 8 55.6 18:38
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0 8 3 72.7 16:22
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0.0 5 8 38.5 17:42
0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.0 7 5 58.3 17:40
0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 3 1 75.0 15:40
0 0 0 -3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 4 6 40.0 16:59
0 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0.0 0 0 - 16:58
0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 6 4 60.0 17:11
0 0 0 -1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 6 0.0 2 5 28.6 19:28
0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 2 6 25.0 18:11
0 0 0 -1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0 2 5 28.6 19:25

Agreed.
To say first round picks are not valued is also short sighted.
- TheHank

I said late first round picks

It is not short sighted there's math behind it

Percentages of players drafted top 5, 6-10, 11-15, etc of them making a career in the NHL based on where they are selected

In all fairness it was the draft that set us back another few years.
- TheHank

Correct

Each draft is different

This years draft isn't 2015 though and neither is next years.

Late first rounders in those two drafts are eh

Irreplaceable
- sbroads24

Or, how about this guy?:

0 1 1 -1 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 0 0 - 19:03
0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0.0 0 0 - 18:48
0 0 0 -1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0 0 0 - 21:26
0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 0.0 0 0 - 20:50
0 1 1 -1 2 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0.0 0 0 - 19:05
0 0 0 0 0 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 0 0 - 20:33
0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 0 0 - 17:50
0 0 0 0 4 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 - 20:36
0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 0 0 - 18:31
0 2 2 2 2 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 - 17:18
1 0 1 -1 0 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 4 25.0 0 0 - 18:02
0 0 0 -1 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 0 0 - 21:11
0 1 1 -2 2 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0 0 0 - 14:54
0 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 - 13:54

Correct

Each draft is different

This years draft isn't 2015 though and neither is next years.

Late first rounders in those two drafts are eh
- Stripes77

Also correct.
The sabres arent good this year nor were they in 2015.
It was said then and ill still say it now, until they are any good i will take all the picks i can get before acquiring players and paying out any contracts with term. Oreilly, kane, bogo, lehner, okposo... Where has it gotten us? By the time we are good they will either be gone or aging anchors here.
Sometimes the grass isnt always greener on the other side.

Or, how about this guy?:

0 1 1 -1 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 0 0 - 19:03
0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0.0 0 0 - 18:48
0 0 0 -1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0 0 0 - 21:26
0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 0.0 0 0 - 20:50
0 1 1 -1 2 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0.0 0 0 - 19:05
0 0 0 0 0 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 0 0 - 20:33
0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 0 0 - 17:50
0 0 0 0 4 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 - 20:36
0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 0 0 - 18:31
0 2 2 2 2 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 - 17:18
1 0 1 -1 0 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 4 25.0 0 0 - 18:02
0 0 0 -1 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 0 0 - 21:11
0 1 1 -2 2 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0 0 0 - 14:54
0 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 - 13:54
- Wetbandit1

Who dat?

Who dat?
- TheHank

First one was Matthews 2nd one was Ovechkin. Both from last year. Even the best players struggle. Using a 12 game sample size is weak.

First one was Matthews 2nd one was Ovechkin. Both from last year. Even the best players struggle. Using a 12 game sample size is weak.
- Wetbandit1

Gotcha.
Yes they do and yes it is.

I said late first round picks

It is not short sighted there's math behind it

Percentages of players drafted top 5, 6-10, 11-15, etc of them making a career in the NHL based on where they are selected
- Stripes77

There have been some very good players picked in the 25ish range in the last 5 years. I can name names if you wish

Strange ,
Okposo has been playing better.
Okposo is playing better with eichel
Kane , not playing better
Kane is not playing with eichel

Seriously though: okposo is playing well, we need him to be a 60 point guy , otherwise it's another bad contract
- Boss34

I've been waiting a while for someone to actually "click" with Jack. I think Reinhart has some chemistry with him, but the rest just look like square pegs for round holes.

I like how Okposo's board play compliments Jack's ability to distribute. In last night's game, I saw Okposo retrieve the puck twice, get the puck to Jack, go straight to the net and get a quality shot off. If he can continue to do this I think 60 pts is about what you'll get.

I've been waiting a while for someone to actually "click" with Jack. I think Reinhart has some chemistry with him, but the rest just look like square pegs for round holes.

I like how Okposo's board play compliments Jack's ability to distribute. In last night's game, I saw Okposo retrieve the puck twice, get the puck to Jack, go straight to the net and get a quality shot off. If he can continue to do this I think 60 pts is about what you'll get.
- RhinoFan

In his first 9 full seasons he hit 60 points twice.
Ppg over 82 games hes a 56.6.
I hope his production goes up after 30yrs old but im not counting on it.

There have been some very good players picked in the 25ish range in the last 5 years. I can name names if you wish
- MCGUIZZY

Go ahead I just looked

Now count how many years it took for them to become good players

There's 1 standout

Pasta

I've been waiting a while for someone to actually "click" with Jack. I think Reinhart has some chemistry with him, but the rest just look like square pegs for round holes.

I like how Okposo's board play compliments Jack's ability to distribute. In last night's game, I saw Okposo retrieve the puck twice, get the puck to Jack, go straight to the net and get a quality shot off. If he can continue to do this I think 60 pts is about what you'll get.
- RhinoFan

You know what I liked last night out of okposo, was the physical play. He was forcing his will.

Kyle and jack definitely click.
6 million - 60 points isn't bad

McDavid 12.5 million next year

100 points last year

Also correct.
The sabres arent good this year nor were they in 2015.
It was said then and ill still say it now, until they are any good i will take all the picks i can get before acquiring players and paying out any contracts with term. Oreilly, kane, bogo, lehner, okposo... Where has it gotten us? By the time we are good they will either be gone or aging anchors here.
Sometimes the grass isnt always greener on the other side.
- TheHank

"...the grass is always greener
where the dogs are shi tting."

In his first 9 full seasons he hit 60 points twice.
Ppg over 82 games hes a 56.6.
I hope his production goes up after 30yrs old but im not counting on it.
- TheHank

Good stats research
Maybe I should be expecting 6 million and around 55 points.

Anything is better than the beginning of this year

Go ahead I just looked

Now count how many years it took for them to become good players

There's 1 standout

Pasta
- Stripes77

pasta fagioli

"...the grass is always greener
where the dogs are shi tting."
- Ratsreign

It's brownish yellow where he or she pees

Go ahead I just looked

Now count how many years it took for them to become good players

There's 1 standout

Pasta
- Stripes77

Boeser your move

Good stats research
Maybe I should be expecting 6 million and around 55 points.

Anything is better than the beginning of this year
- Boss34

Sure, if you expect him to play 82 games per year.
His expected points per year is actually 45.44

"...the grass is always greener
where the dogs are shi tting."
- Ratsreign

pasta fagioli
- jochfr

It's delicious!

But really 1 in every 5 years there's a really good player that drops to the 25th range that is ready in 2-3 years or sooner

Those odds aren't great.

That would be why Botterill doesn't just want draft picks for Kane...