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TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 23 @ 4:49 PM ET
Boeser your move
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Straight fire i tell you. Straight fire.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 23 @ 4:51 PM ET
Boeser your move
- GERBE!!!75PTS


The stacked 2015 draft

How's his team doing?

Now tell me this 2018 or next years 2019 draft is shaping up like the 2015 draft...

Because it's not and if it was then I would have taken the deal for Kane but it's no where close
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 23 @ 4:52 PM ET
In his first 9 full seasons he hit 60 points twice.
Ppg over 82 games hes a 56.6.
I hope his production goes up after 30yrs old but im not counting on it.

- TheHank


Firstly, I said "about". 56.6 is "about" 60 to me. Sorry if that was misleading. I don't think his production will spike, but 52-60 pts I think is attainable.

Let me ask you this: He's on pace for "about" 50 points this year (47??). Is it outrageous to believe he grabs 10 more if he doesn't start off at a snails pace next year (4pts in his first 13 games) and can continue to have chemistry with Jack?
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 23 @ 4:53 PM ET
Go ahead I just looked

Now count how many years it took for them to become good players

There's 1 standout

Pasta

- Stripes77



2013-Shea Theodore picked at 26
2014-David Pastranak picked at 25
2015-Brock Boesser picked at 23


MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 23 @ 4:55 PM ET
The stacked 2015 draft

How's his team doing?

Now tell me this 2018 or next years 2019 draft is shaping up like the 2015 draft...

Because it's not and if it was then I would have taken the deal for Kane but it's no where close

- Stripes77



Clearly you have your opinion. No one knows how strong a draft really is until a few years down the line. The 2014 draft was considered weak. Now its looking pretty strong.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 23 @ 4:56 PM ET
2013-Shea Theodore picked at 26
2014-David Pastranak picked at 25
2015-Brock Boesser picked at 23

- MCGUIZZY



Theodore is good but to act like he is a game changer is a bit premature

I addressed Boesser already and like I said Pasta is legit

Now go back the previous drafts...23-27th it's not a great track record
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 23 @ 4:57 PM ET
Theodore is good but to act like he is a game changer is a bit premature

I addressed Boesser already and like I said Pasta is legit

Now go back the previous drafts...23-27th it's not a great track record

- Stripes77

When was Colin White picked and is it true that he is the most dominant player since Keith Gretzky?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 23 @ 4:57 PM ET
Clearly you have your opinion. No one knows how strong a draft really is until a few years down the line. The 2014 draft was considered weak. Now its looking pretty strong.
- MCGUIZZY



3 players drafted 23-27th in 3 years

3 out of 15

1 out of 5

20%

not exactly awesome odds
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 23 @ 4:58 PM ET
When was Colin White picked and is it true that he is the most dominant player since Keith Gretzky?
- jochfr







Did you know the Gretzky brothers hold the record for most points scored by brothers?

Man Keith certainly held up his end of the bargain
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 23 @ 4:59 PM ET
Theodore is good but to act like he is a game changer is a bit premature

I addressed Boesser already and like I said Pasta is legit

Now go back the previous drafts...23-27th it's not a great track record

- Stripes77



Oh I didnt. But you would love to have him in your system of prospects. Listen you wont convince me that "late" first round picks arent valuable.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 23 @ 5:00 PM ET


Did you know the Gretzky brothers hold the record for most points scored by brothers?

Man Keith certainly held up his end of the bargain

- Stripes77

Did the Sabres draft that (frank)er?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 23 @ 5:01 PM ET
Oh I didnt. But you would love to have him in your system of prospects. Listen you wont convince me that "late" first round picks arent valuable.
- MCGUIZZY




I too would love him in our system he would probably be the Sabres best defensemen or close to it right now

I didn't say they weren't valuable.

But I think they're over valued a bit here.

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 23 @ 5:01 PM ET
3 players drafted 23-27th in 3 years

3 out of 15

1 out of 5

20%

not exactly awesome odds

- Stripes77

Sounds like my odds of pissing inside the urinal after a few shots of moonshine.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 23 @ 5:01 PM ET
Did the Sabres draft that (frank)er?
- jochfr



YUP!!!

3rd rounder I believe
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 23 @ 5:02 PM ET
Clearly you have your opinion. No one knows how strong a draft really is until a few years down the line. The 2014 draft was considered weak. Now its looking pretty strong.
- MCGUIZZY


Except for the top. The top still sucks. 2 woeful underachievers and a guy who has played 4 games, one guy who has great numbers with a top player in the league and average numbers away from him, and a guy who's a strong gust of wind away from a career ending concussion.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jan 23 @ 5:02 PM ET
The stacked 2015 draft

How's his team doing?

Now tell me this 2018 or next years 2019 draft is shaping up like the 2015 draft...

Because it's not and if it was then I would have taken the deal for Kane but it's no where close

- Stripes77



So what about Kempe ?
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 23 @ 5:06 PM ET
Except for the top. The top still sucks. 2 woeful underachievers and a guy who has played 4 games, one guy who has great numbers with a top player in the league and average numbers away from him, and a guy who's a strong gust of wind away from a career ending concussion.
- Wetbandit1



The first round as a whole is looking much better than predicted. Ekblad is still a good player. Cant fault him or the team that picked him for the concussions. Just unfortunate. And honestly Reinhart still has put up decent numbers. Underwhelming for sure. Same goes for Bennett, hes not that bad and still pretty young overall.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 23 @ 5:07 PM ET
So what about Kempe ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS



He's a 40 point guy...

Come on now and this is season 4 after being drafted. Not in the 3 year window
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jan 23 @ 5:08 PM ET
Have to love when people say stacked 2015 draft but when you talk about Robin the great they talk about the Spaghetti Monster
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 23 @ 5:10 PM ET
The first round as a whole is looking much better than predicted. Ekblad is still a good player. Cant fault him or the team that picked him for the concussions. Just unfortunate. And honestly Reinhart still has put up decent numbers. Underwhelming for sure. Same goes for Bennett, hes not that bad and still pretty young overall.
- MCGUIZZY


I'm not blaming any of them, I'm one of the ones preaching patience. Just stating that the top is not great especially compared to some of the guys picked after them.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jan 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
He's a 40 point guy...

Come on now and this is season 5 after being drafted. Not in the 3 year window

- Stripes77


Hold up did you just call a " half"rookie a 40 point guy

Ok then so when he hits 25 goals what is he ?

So he's what a Sebastian Aho ? He's bad
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 23 @ 5:12 PM ET
16th overall pick
19th overall pick
8th overall pick

Not 28th overall pick

Ho Sang has had his cup of tea

The last 28th overall pick took 5 years to make it the show on a regular basis and that was Brady Skjei

- Stripes77

The first rounder we could have received could have been in the 15-22 range for all we know. Why specifically 28th ? Unless I’m missing something here
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 23 @ 5:12 PM ET
There is a reason botts turned down 2 firsts for him


He doesn't want to wait 6 years to be good

- homiedclown


Root now.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 23 @ 5:15 PM ET
Correct

Each draft is different

This years draft isn't 2015 though and neither is next years.

Late first rounders in those two drafts are eh

- Stripes77

This years draft is a deep draft. Close if not on par with 2015
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 23 @ 5:16 PM ET
I'm not blaming any of them, I'm one of the ones preaching patience. Just stating that the top is not great especially compared to some of the guys picked after them.
- Wetbandit1



I dont think we are disagreeing. I actually thought Dal Colle was gonna be a stud
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