Some more little bits regarding Sanheim's demotion.
Hakstol said it’s a matter of Sanheim “gaining a little more maturity, and he’s going to be an outstanding player in this league.”
In some of the last games he played with the Flyers, “he probably lost a little bit of the confidence, and that can happen to a young defenseman in this league,” Hakstol said. “I think for him to go and play some games in the American League and get himself back to the top of his game is really important for him.”
Mark Alt, 26, was recalled as the extra defenseman. The righthanded-shooting Alt was solid in eight games with the Flyers earlier this season: “He was able to jump in the lineup and play with confidence,” Hakstol said.
The Hextall one's are just weird at times :
Some of what Travis Sanheim is going through is good for Travis,” Hextall said last week. “Again, I don’t want a young player sitting as long as he’s sat or missing many more games, but there’s a lot you learn up there (in the press box). Part of it is a life lesson of you’ve got to earn things. You’re not going to be handed things just because you’re a first-round pick or a highly paid guy or whatever. You have to earn things. That’s a huge lesson in life. I said it before but we don’t come out of college and become a CEO. You’ve got to pay your dues and earn what you’re gonna get.”
If you look at the whole year on Travis I think he’s played well for us,” general manager Ron Hextall said. “He’s had his moments, but he’s a young player and that’s gonna happen. Obviously I don’t like him sitting and the coaches don’t like him sitting and I’m sure he doesn’t like sitting either. Something will break here at some point.”
-- Whats with Hex and the kids having to earn and fight for every single damn thing. Not sure how to feel about that. Seems a bit overdone. - flyer_nutter
I am not even sure how to communicate with someone who actually thinks that is a logical argument.
You are actually saying Manning/Sanheim is the difference in winning or losing? You actually think Goulbourne playing 5 minutes a night has lead to 7 wins?
The Flyers went on a 10 game win streak last year without Coots in the lineup....clearly a better team without him - YuenglingJagr
That's not what I said at all. Just more horse poop spin from you. Display all the nerdlinger stats you want. In the end, Hockey is about results. Wins losses and points. Manning has contributed to better results which is why he's in the line up. I dont blame the Flyers for making that decision.
The most ideal situation is Flyers hold Simmonds for a playoff run this year. He kills it during this playoff run and we get a king’s ransom for him at the draft. That is if we trade him. - arichardson22
I think if Flyers go on a deep run in which Simmonds kills it, they'll be keeping him next year.
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Jan 24 @ 2:40 PM ET
Y'all are to quiet, we must need to talk about Manning vs Sanheim
here is a cut and paste from another board, maybe this will wake up the natives.
His +/- is good for two reasons (BTW, they cannot be directly contributed to him).
(1) He is getting great goaltending. Flyers Goalies have a save% of 94.47 at
5-on-5 with him on the ice. That has very little to do with his defensive ability. It has more to do with the fact that goalies just happen to make more saves when he’s out there.
(2) The team’s shooting % with him on the ice is high too. Again, this isn’t indicative of any world beating talent on Manning’s part. Players just happen to score when he’s out there.
Those two stats combine to form a stat called PDO. It’s referred to as the “luck” stat. His PDO was one of the highest on the team a week and a half ago but he has been playing poorly for 5-6 straight games now and his PDO has plummeted because of it. League average is 100 and he was around 102-104 throughout the season. Now, it’s down 98.87. His season has been the polar opposite to Sanheim’s when taking a look at PDO. In fact, Sanheim’s season was remarkably similar to Ghost’s last year (team can’t score or make saves with him out there). Sanheim does need some work on getting his stick on pucks, improving his gap control, and positioning. Even with his rookie learning curve that he’s been on, the team was conceding the second fewest scoring chances/high danger scoring chances and shots. Unfortunately, for him and the Flyers, teams were able to convert on quite a few of their opportunities for a myriad of reasons. I’m glad Sanheim will be getting to play in all-situations now.
That's not what I said at all. Just more horse poop spin from you. Display all the nerdlinger stats you want. In the end, Hockey is about results. Wins losses and points. Manning has contributed to better results which is why he's in the line up. I dont blame the Flyers for making that decision. - Baxter27
I honestly don't give a poop if Sanheim is scratched for a few games or if he is sent to the AHL because the coach doesn't play him. I do give a poop when people try to tell me that it is because Brandon Manning is better than Travis Sanheim. That defies just about every logical way of evaluating hockey players.
The Flyers got a positive result last night despite a poor process. Over time, the process will lead to results, whether they are good or bad. If you play a poopty game and end just okay with it because you won, that is going to lead to poor results later on. Everything about Manning being better right now is about results and ignores that despite Sanheim doing a lot of things right, it has led to subpar results. It won't stay that way. Great hockey players understand that the process is what matters.
The process is what was preached when the Flyers lost 10 in a row, and now when they win it is about result.
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Jan 24 @ 2:52 PM ET
I'm confused - Scoob
I read those quotes as he has some off the ice issues. Maturity comes at different ages. I personally detest the sense of entitlement I have to deal with on a daily basis sometimes. So yeah I can understand the coach's view to sit your ass if they don't like your attitude and the GM backing that.
FlyersGrace Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers
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Jan 24 @ 2:54 PM ET
To change topics to something more exciting.
I ate half of an apple pie for breakfast. It was a solid start to the day.
I read those quotes as he has some off the ice issues. Maturity comes at different ages. I personally detest the sense of entitlement I have to deal with on a daily basis sometimes. So yeah I can understand the coach's view to sit your ass if they don't like your attitude and the GM backing that. - FlyersGrace
Thanks, I agree if that's the case. The part I was confused by was the poster's seeming implication that he isn't in favor of young players earning their place on the team.
