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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 24 @ 11:27 AM ET
That wasn't what was proposed.
We've talked at length about why you don't like Kane as a person, and frankly, it's complete bullpoop IMO.

- jmatchett383


Again, you brought it up. I didn't. Let it go.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 24 @ 11:32 AM ET
45% chance to make the playoffs boys

remember all the so-called nfl analysts didn't give the Eagles a chance!
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
45% chance to make the playoffs boys

remember all the so-called nfl analysts didn't give the Eagles a chance!

- 2Real


Good. They are on par with my season prediction.
SimmerDown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Cold North
Joined: 12.07.2017

Jan 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
On a side note from the game last night. I was trying to count the chomps per minute from the Detroit coach after his failed interference challenge but wasn't able to keep up. Dude straight up murdered his gum.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 24 @ 11:37 AM ET
Looks to me like Sanheim is a better player than Manning even though some people say otherwise...
- johm12

You can't just look at those numbers and say that is what is happening. That is where you get yourself into trouble. Same thing as using +/- to say Hagg is playing great.

There are specific reasons why Sanheim's corsi is higher than Manning's, and only one of them are because he is better. Sanheim hasn't played with MacDonald or Manning much, and Manning has to play with himself. Sanheim is usually limited in ice time when the Flyers have a lead, which is when the most shots against usually happen. He has a zone start advantage, though that isn't too big of a deal.

There are other stats to look at and also adjustments that are used to limit some of those effects I mentioned, but just pointing at corsi numbers and saying one is better than the other isn't correct and feeds the "flat staters"
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 24 @ 11:38 AM ET
Good. They are on par with my season prediction.
- Streit2ThePoint

45% of the Flyers will make the playoffs?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 24 @ 11:39 AM ET
45% chance to make the playoffs boys

remember all the so-called nfl analysts didn't give the Eagles a chance!

- 2Real

where you getting your numbers from, einstein?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 24 @ 11:39 AM ET
45% of the Flyers will make the playoffs?
- YuenglingJagr


Precisely
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 24 @ 11:40 AM ET
Good. They are on par with my season prediction.
- Streit2ThePoint

Streit2theBank
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
where you getting your numbers from, einstein?
- aightwebang17

it's just simple math
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 24 @ 11:47 AM ET
it's just simple math
- 2Real

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 24 @ 11:50 AM ET
Again, you brought it up. I didn't. Let it go.
- Scoob


Okay. In that case, why specifically would you not trade Simmonds for Kane, a 1st round pick, and a top Chi prospect?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 24 @ 11:51 AM ET
45% chance to make the playoffs boys

remember all the so-called nfl analysts didn't give the Eagles a chance!

- 2Real


84.4% http://www.sportsclubstat...politan/Philadelphia.html

79% https://www.hockey-refere...com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 24 @ 11:53 AM ET
it's just simple math
- 2Real


Teams that are currently in playoff position in both points and points percentage are less than likely to make the playoffs...checks out.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 24 @ 11:53 AM ET
Okay. In that case, why specifically would you not trade Simmonds for Kane, a 1st round pick, and a top Chi prospect?
- jmatchett383


Last time. Let it go.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
What moves would you all line to see the Flyers make at the trade deadline assuming the standings are the same as they are now. Curious about names you would want to acquire or move not necessarily positions that they need to fill.
- johm12


It depends. I would like them to go after Evander Kane. I wouldnt want to give up more then 2017 first, 2018 Conditional 2nd if he resigns, Wade Allison, and they would have to take back either Lehtera or Weiss for money reasons.

I would also like to see them trade either Elliot or Nuevirth. Make a decision and make a trade. Just get a backup in the deal or call up Lyons.

That is all the changes I would be willing to make if we are planning on making a semi-serious run in the post season.

Otherwise I would trade Raffl, Weiss, Manning, Gudas, MacDonald, Filppula, Lehtera, In addition to one of the goalies. Not that most of those guys are tradeable. But you might get something decent for Gudas, Raffl, Macdonald (if you retain salary), and Filppula. Maybe a few picks.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
Teams that are currently in playoff position in both points and points percentage are less than likely to make the playoffs...checks out.
- jmatchett383

SimmerDown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Cold North
Joined: 12.07.2017

Jan 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
It depends. I would like them to go after Evander Kane. I wouldnt want to give up more then 2017 first, 2018 Conditional 2nd if he resigns, Wade Allison, and they would have to take back either Lehtera or Weiss for money reasons.

I would also like to see them trade either Elliot or Nuevirth. Make a decision and make a trade. Just get a backup in the deal or call up Lyons.

That is all the changes I would be willing to make if we are planning on making a semi-serious run in the post season.

Otherwise I would trade Raffl, Weiss, Manning, Gudas, MacDonald, Filppula, Lehtera, In addition to one of the goalies. Not that most of those guys are tradeable. But you might get something decent for Gudas, Raffl, Macdonald (if you retain salary), and Filppula. Maybe a few picks.

- youarewrong

May I ask why should we trade one of our goalies? beef up draft picks? IMO our goal tending has been a strength this year. Why weaken the area?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 24 @ 12:01 PM ET

- 2Real


So that's from January 24th, 2018?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
Last time. Let it go.
- Scoob


So you're not going to answer the question of why you wouldn't do the trade? Good to know.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 24 @ 12:02 PM ET
Olympian Roman Lyubimov
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 24 @ 12:04 PM ET
Olympian Roman Lyubimov
- YuenglingJagr


What will be the term used for the Olympic team from Russia?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 24 @ 12:05 PM ET
What will be the term used for the Olympic team from Russia?
- jmatchett383

Commie Bastards I believe we all agreed upon
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
Commie Bastards I believe we all agreed upon
- YuenglingJagr


Not "slimy little Communist poop twinkle-toed banana eater?"
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 24 @ 12:10 PM ET
So you're not going to answer the question of why you wouldn't do the trade? Good to know.
- jmatchett383


Seriously? What part of "please let it go" don't you understand? I'm doing my best here but it doesn't seem to be enough, so help me out.

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