No hearing or discipline for Hirtl? WTF

I don't think you should say naïve. we all have different views on here and that's ok. Rexy obviously tends to lead the charge on here for analytics which is not surprising, that seems to be the trend with younger fans. It does drive me bonkers at times but is also needed on here, even if its just to show a different view point.
- Ross77

Well said. I've said it before that this could get dull without Rexy. We would all be drinking the same koolaid.

Well said. I've said it before that this could get dull without Rexy. We would all be drinking the same koolaid.
- 2.0

Can we talk about the fact that the Jets stuff on here went from around 15 comments per post to upwards of 80? Are we just not as anus-ey as before? Or is the team being good making for more engagement?

Can we talk about the fact that the Jets stuff on here went from around 15 comments per post to upwards of 80? Are we just not as anus-ey as before? Or is the team being good making for more engagement?
- Rexypoo

Take credit where credit is due dude!

Honest question, is Buff now our worst D? And I'm including Chairot and Poolman!!!! He is absolutely killing me with his careless play.

Honest question, is Buff now our worst D? And I'm including Chairot and Poolman!!!! He is absolutely killing me with his careless play.
- Ross77

Ya, it's a good question. I thought he was having a better game to be honest, but I know what u mean.

Laine in the first peridod was a turnover machine . I counted 4 times when the Ducks ended up with the puck, 1 lost puck battle, 2 turnovers and 1 give away.

Bad call on Perreault in the first as well.

They showed Coglianos hit that he got two games and it is hard to figure consistency when u compare it to Hurts hit on Kuli. I just don,t get it. Coglianos gets two for that and Hurtl nothing? Go figure.

Ya, it's a good question. I thought he was having a better game to be honest, but I know what u mean.

Laine in the first peridod was a turnover machine . I counted 4 times when the Ducks ended up with the puck, 1 lost puck battle, 2 turnovers and 1 give away.

Bad call on Perreault in the first as well.

They showed Coglianos hit that he got two games and it is hard to figure consistency when u compare it to Hurts hit on Kuli. I just don,t get it. Coglianos gets two for that and Hurtl nothing? Go figure.
- CharlieDog

Phantom interference call on the goal they waived off. Perreault was no where near the goalie

Phantom interference call on the goal they waived off. Perreault was no where near the goalie
- sparky1957

Apparently there was some contact, I didn't see it but supposedly there was. I was a bit aghast when I saw Hendricks taking the shootout shot. I mean, coaches prerogative in all, say what you will, but you have Ehlers, Armia, Roslovic, Buff on the bench that specialize in stuffing the puck in the net, not sure how PoMo arrived at Hendricks. Apparently he used to be good in Washington on the shootout. Go figure. Who would have known?

Wouldn't be my choice but hey, I am here typing on a keyboard and not a NHL coach.

lol.....21 yrs old. That explains a lot with regards to being so naive with your comments . My original guess a while back was that you were a high school student. I wasn't far off.
- jetsnation

I am no longer going to debate with Rexy....I've been watching hockey for 45+ years, and have been a Jets season ticket holder since Day 1 of the WHA. I figure I have seen a lot more hockey than him.

Benny - Out !

Apparently there was some contact, I didn't see it but supposedly there was. I was a bit aghast when I saw Hendricks taking the shootout shot. I mean, coaches prerogative in all, say what you will, but you have Ehlers, Armia, Roslovic, Buff on the bench that specialize in stuffing the puck in the net, not sure how PoMo arrived at Hendricks. Apparently he used to be good in Washington on the shootout. Go figure. Who would have known?

Wouldn't be my choice but hey, I am here typing on a keyboard and not a NHL coach.
- CharlieDog

Coach played a hunch and it didn't work out. I assume they practice shootouts from time to time, so perhaps Hendy has looked good in the practice sessions.

I am no longer going to debate with Rexy....I've been watching hockey for 45+ years, and have been a Jets season ticket holder since Day 1 of the WHA. I figure I have seen a lot more hockey than him.

Benny - Out !
- bennythehat

Seen more hockey than me? Absolutely. Experience matters, but only when you’ve learned from it. Nobody who actually believes they know more about something than someone else feels the need to point it out. Nice jab, though.

Coach played a hunch and it didn't work out. I assume they practice shootouts from time to time, so perhaps Hendy has looked good in the practice sessions.
- bennythehat

Hendricks had that one season in Washington where he just went off in the shootout. It didn’t continue, but hot damn if every coach he ever had after Boudreau didn’t keep trying it.

I am no longer going to debate with Rexy....I've been watching hockey for 45+ years, and have been a Jets season ticket holder since Day 1 of the WHA. I figure I have seen a lot more hockey than him.

Benny - Out !
- bennythehat

I'm with you Benny ! No more debates with Wrong-way Rexy. Its not the age thing so much as the ridiculous opinions, incessant ranting on topics that he is completely off-base. Combine that with his discernible lack of experience and its a total waste of time to even bother replying to his comments.

I'm with you Benny ! No more debates with Wrong-way Rexy. Its not the age thing so much as the ridiculous opinions, incessant ranting on topics that he is completely off-base. Combine that with his discernible lack of experience and its a total waste of time to even bother replying to his comments.
- jetsnation

You say I’m off-base, yet provide 0 evidence to support this claim at any point in time.

Rexy, it is a blog to offer up opinions. On a blog, I would be hesitant to offer up to much of yourself, have a thick skin because there are ppl here that have been around the block and know the game very well, particularly in Mb, and will call you on stuff.

Enjoy the game and the forum that allows us to post, make your post and move on. Have fun and don,t be too serious.

Rexy, it is a blog to offer up opinions. On a blog, I would be hesitant to offer up to much of yourself, have a thick skin because there are ppl here that have been around the block and know the game very well, particularly in Mb, and will call you on stuff.

Enjoy the game and the forum that allows us to post, make your post and move on. Have fun and don,t be too serious.
- CharlieDog

I am open to seeing analytics used but needs to be backed up by source of data and continual improvement of the analysis of collected information.
Hockey analytics is much more complex than baseball due to poly interactions and flowing play. Baseball is one man at the plate and one guy on the mound that have fairly clean and precise numbers attached to success, other offensive/defensive stats less relevant.

Hockey possession time is impacted by subtle things like... how quickly does the team generate a scoring chance after gaining possession? What is the quality of time spent in the zone? And then there are the intangibles - do teammates respond to the efforts of one player more than another? How much does a mediocre (or worse) attitude drag performance of a team over the course of a season or playoff?

I often marveled at how the goalie proteges of Grant Fuhr consistently developed into solid starters while playing backup to him (Ranford, Hasek, Potvin, McLennan, Gigeure). Intangibles are just as relevant as the analytics - Rexy will learn.

I am open to seeing analytics used but needs to be backed up by source of data and continual improvement of the analysis of collected information.
Hockey analytics is much more complex than baseball due to poly interactions and flowing play. Baseball is one man at the plate and one guy on the mound that have fairly clean and precise numbers attached to success, other offensive/defensive stats less relevant.

Hockey possession time is impacted by subtle things like... how quickly does the team generate a scoring chance after gaining possession? What is the quality of time spent in the zone? And then there are the intangibles - do teammates respond to the efforts of one player more than another? How much does a mediocre (or worse) attitude drag performance of a team over the course of a season or playoff?

I often marveled at how the goalie proteges of Grant Fuhr consistently developed into solid starters while playing backup to him (Ranford, Hasek, Potvin, McLennan, Gigeure). Intangibles are just as relevant as the analytics - Rexy will learn.
- 2.0

Well said 2.0. You can also include O-zone starts vs D-zone starts as a big part of any overall Corsi type metrics. It has a huge effect. Its rare that 4th line gets many -D-zone starts and it affects players numbers accordingly. Other intangible factors can benefit 4th line players such as energy levels. Playing only 6-8 minutes a game gives you a lot more zip than playing 20 and hence higher Corsi stats. ...or how I see Hendricks on the bench revving up his line before they hit the ice for the next shift. Etc Etc. Yes, Rexy is young so it will give him lots of time to learn the finer points of the game.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
Trouba is injured and out for an extended period of time.
1. Can Buff step up and be the kingpin on defence ?
2. Is Poolman ready ?
3. This is a real fly in the ointment, as the trade deadline approaches.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....
Trouba is injured and out for an extended period of time.
1. Can Buff step up and be the kingpin on defence ?
2. Is Poolman ready ?
3. This is a real fly in the ointment, as the trade deadline approaches.
- bennythehat

Yes, does Trouba's injury now prompt Chevy to look for a D? It is a good thing that Wpg has the D depth that we do have with the 7 Chariot and 8 Poolman.

I guess we will find out if Poolman is ready but he hasn't been a liability in any game that I can remember. Morrisey should help shelter Buff in the top pairing (can you actually believe I am saying that?? Morrisey should help Buf?)

Myers and Enstrom, Chariot / Poolman.

On a further note, Morrisey looked like he took a beating in Anaheim. I hope Anaheim does not make it to the playoffs because, Jetnation, you were bang on about injury in California, and Anaheim in particular. If you would have told me that Morrisey was injured, I wouldn't have been surprised because they were hard on him.

Toby had a tough time in the corners or anywhere near the boards. They were on him and all he could do along the boards or in the corners was to try to tie the guy up and wait for help. Off the boards or away from the boards, he is ok but along the wall, not much he has available aside from tying guys up.

Those pairing are assuming that Kuli is not quite ready to go. No sense rushing him back, let him recover properly and be ready. Buffalo rushed him last year and he was not the same player so we have the depth on D, hold him out until he is ready to go physically and mentally.

Yes, does Trouba's injury now prompt Chevy to look for a D? It is a good thing that Wpg has the D depth that we do have with the 7 Chariot and 8 Poolman.

I guess we will find out if Poolman is ready but he hasn't been a liability in any game that I can remember. Morrisey should help shelter Buff in the top pairing (can you actually believe I am saying that?? Morrisey should help Buf?)

Myers and Enstrom, Chariot / Poolman.

On a further note, Morrisey looked like he took a beating in Anaheim. I hope Anaheim does not make it to the playoffs because, Jetnation, you were bang on about injury in California, and Anaheim in particular. If you would have told me that Morrisey was injured, I wouldn't have been surprised because they were hard on him.

Toby had a tough time in the corners or anywhere near the boards. They were on him and all he could do along the boards or in the corners was to try to tie the guy up and wait for help. Off the boards or away from the boards, he is ok but along the wall, not much he has available aside from tying guys up.
- CharlieDog

Enstrom can't retrieve pucks off the boards because his stick is TOO LONG !
Same reason that he can't shoot.