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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 25 @ 10:43 PM ET
he's definitely a better player than what he showed during the first half of the season.
- Nucker101

he's a disgrace to the game of lawn jarts.

And hockey
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
bridge deal, then trade high
- homiedclown



If he goes for it. Maybe he brings back a d-man this summer. But yeah if you bridge him and he can put together a good year the return is better.


Of course if he poops the bed well.....poop
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
At one point he was the spotlight . then came Jack. Could be it . could not .. But his on Ice attitude has changed 360.
- cabin

should have more pre-game meals at your place
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
he keeps this up till the end of the year it makes contract negotiations interesting. Do you try and go for the long term lower cap hit deal or do you sell high?
- Sabresfan-365

Sell high.

If you can. We know what he is.

17-20 goal 40 point player

If a sucker GM thinks he can be a star. Take advantage
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
he's a disgrace to the game of lawn jarts.
- jochfr


Not to be confused with lawn jorts .
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
should have more pre-game meals at your place
- Nucker101

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 25 @ 10:45 PM ET

- homiedclown



That's me in the flannel, its a good spot, heavy pours

That guy with the cape logs a lot of hrs, hell of a liver
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 10:45 PM ET
That's me in the flannel, its a good spot, heavy pours

That guy with the cape logs a lot of hrs, hell of a liver

- washedup20

you need some plugs
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 10:45 PM ET
No, he wouldn’t.

That’s an outlier.

Stats aren’t perfect

- sbroads24



I'm being an ass. Don't get me wrong, Perreault is having a nice year, but ROR pretty consistently gets around 57 points. Perreault's high is 45
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 10:46 PM ET
That's me in the flannel, its a good spot, heavy pours

That guy with the cape logs a lot of hrs, hell of a liver

- washedup20

It's gotta be a trick . his bottle never empties
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 10:46 PM ET
I'm being an ass. Don't get me wrong, Perreault is having a nice year, but ROR pretty consistently get points around 57 points. Perreault's high is 45
- jcragcrumple

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 10:46 PM ET
Perrault at his cap hit >> O’Reilly
- sbroads24


Are u gonna now break it down to pts/$$$ made?

Bc there’s be a whole lotta guys better than Eichel, Crosby, McDavid, OV, Pk88, etc etc

Perrault is a good 3rd liner
It doesn’t mean he’d be a good 2nd liner

U want a guy like that over Larsson?
That makes a ton of sense

But even if u were right...
how are u spending that extra $$$ then?


Bogosian & Moulson are the contracts we need to get rid of
O’Reilly is actually good
Not great
Good
We need good players

Yeah, we need great players too
Do we need to get rid of the good ones to do so?
I’d think we’d need BOTH if we ever wanna contend with the big boys
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:47 PM ET
I'm being an ass. Don't get me wrong, Perreault is having a nice year, but ROR pretty consistently get points around 57 points. Perreault's high is 45
- jcragcrumple

Again. That’s short sighted.

But whatever
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 10:47 PM ET
It's gotta be a trick . his bottle never empties
- cabin

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 25 @ 10:47 PM ET
Spades are spades. Im calling it like it is.
You can put as much whipped cream on him as you want, hes still a turd.

- TheHank


That isn’t how that is phrased.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
That isn’t how that is phrased.
- Der Kaiser

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
you need some plugs
- homiedclown



I'm on the waiting list for Trumps hair stylist.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
Are u gonna now break it down to pts/$$$ made?

Bc there’s be a whole lotta guys better than Eichel, Crosby, McDavid, OV, Pk88, etc etc

Perrault is a good 3rd liner
It doesn’t mean he’d be a good 2nd liner

U want a guy like that over Larsson?
That makes a ton of sense

But even if u were right...
how are u spending that extra $$$ then?


Bogosian & Moulson are the contracts we need to get rid of
O’Reilly is actually good
Not great
Good
We need good players

Yeah, we need great players too
Do we need to get rid of the good ones to do so?
I’d think we’d need BOTH if we ever wanna contend with the big boys

- jdfitz77


I've actually looked into creating some kind of model for this, just can't nail down specifics.

Like instead of trying to breakdown wins above replacement (which i actually dont believe works too well with hockey) maybe create something that identifies/gives you an idea of value to $$
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 10:48 PM ET
Again. That’s short sighted.

But whatever

- sbroads24



They've played the same amount of years. I'm just saying, advanced stats can be twisted to tell any narrative you want. ROR gets his 20g 55-60p and leads the league in FO while playing all 3 phases. To say Perreault brings the same thing is just innacurate imo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
I'm on the waiting list for Trumps hair stylist.
- washedup20

O qua tangin wann
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
My inbox is full of people wondering what kane's value is worth to me.

I answer them all. Full detail

- Boss34


Troll away
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
Are u gonna now break it down to pts/$$$ made?

Bc there’s be a whole lotta guys better than Eichel, Crosby, McDavid, OV, Pk88, etc etc

Perrault is a good 3rd liner
It doesn’t mean he’d be a good 2nd liner

U want a guy like that over Larsson?
That makes a ton of sense

But even if u were right...
how are u spending that extra $$$ then?


Bogosian & Moulson are the contracts we need to get rid of
O’Reilly is actually good
Not great
Good
We need good players

Yeah, we need great players too
Do we need to get rid of the good ones to do so?
I’d think we’d need BOTH if we ever wanna contend with the big boys

- jdfitz77

How the hell is a guy that is at .72 PPG over the past two years a third liner??

Kane is at .66 in that time span

Come on man
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
I've actually looked into creating some kind of model for this, just can't nail down specifics.

Like instead of trying to breakdown wins above replacement (which i actually dont believe works too well with hockey) maybe create something that identifies/gives you an idea of value to $$

- Sabresfan-365

You guys need to find a different thing that attracts you to each other. This will get boring real fast .
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 10:50 PM ET
They've played the same amount of years. I'm just saying, advanced stats can be twisted to tell any narrative you want. ROR gets his 20g 55-60p and leads the league in FO while playing all 3 phases. To say Perreault brings the same thing is just innacurate imo
- jcragcrumple

I think Perreault is better in his own end


and don't lump me in this pissing contest


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:50 PM ET
They've played the same amount of years. I'm just saying, advanced stats can be twisted to tell any narrative you want. ROR gets his 20g 55-60p and leads the league in FO while playing all 3 phases. To say Perreault brings the same thing is just innacurate imo
- jcragcrumple


I think he brings close to that for far less money. I know hes bringing pretty much the same production especially at 5v5.

Defensive metrics are harder pin down. I haven't seen much out there (even by eye test) that actually confirms ROR is some defensive demi-god.
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