sbroads24
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Again... i think your hate has gone too far
In your example,
u gotta remember that it works both ways
Do i think Pouliot’s stats would go up with Eichel?
Yeah, of course
But i also think Eichel’s stats would probably go down
I guess that’s all tough to say
But there’s a reason Sam was drafted so high
And while he may not be producing like most #2 picks,
he also has better skills than an average NHLer like Pouliot - jdfitz77
There was a reason Bogosian was picked 3rd overall
And you realize Poliout was picked 4th overall, right? |
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Hatboro_Swords
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Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA Joined: 07.30.2010
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bully - homiedclown
I just broke the tie with that blast. Wooooooo, get some baby F yeah!
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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It's entirely possible that ERod, Fasching, Baptiste, Bailey, and Smith don't stick in the NHL. If you're betting, the over/under is probably 1 at this point. The next wave of prospects will be here next season and could overtake them very fast. The competition is great. The fact that these guys haven't played better in the NHL is not. - Lunaion
Smith hasn’t gotten a shot
Baptiste & Fasching have had very limited games here, and mostly on line4
I don’t think Rodrigues has even played 1 game in the top6
Bailey had a nice look with ROR last year,
but I’d like to see him get another chance before casting him aside
No, not all of them will likely work out
But limited chances on a terrible team, often playing on the 4th line....
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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There was a reason Bogosian was picked 3rd overall
And you realize Poliout was picked 4th overall, right? - sbroads24
I knew he was 1st round,
didn’t realize that high
I’m guess I’m just not with you that Sam & Pouliot have the same ceiling
So far, Sam’s worst is roughly on pace for Pouliot’s best
So i think Sam can still go up,
whereas Pouliot never even peaked |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I knew he was 1st round,
didn’t realize that high
I’m guess I’m just not with you that Sam & Pouliot have the same ceiling
So far, Sam’s worst is roughly on pace for Pouliot’s best
So i think Sam can still go up,
whereas Pouliot never even peaked - jdfitz77
The only reason Sam will go up, is because he’s on a line with Eichel.
Which if he stays there, cool. But if a GM dangles a D prospect, I’m listening.
Reinhart has been invisible for most of his time here. He deflects mosts his goals on the PP, and makes some nice passes occasionally. He’s not an impressive player in the least |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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The only reason Sam will go up, is because he’s on a line with Eichel.
Which if he stays there, cool. But if a GM dangles a D prospect, I’m listening.
Reinhart has been invisible for most of his time here. He deflects mosts his goals on the PP, and makes some nice passes occasionally. He’s not an impressive player in the least - sbroads24
Me too
But bc we need defense badly,
not bc i think as little of Sam as u seem to |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Swing away Merrill. Merrill, swing away. What a dogpoop movie. - Hatboro_Swords
FIFY
He should've just stopped after The Sixth Sense. They were all poop after that. Having said that Signs was probably the best of the bunch after The Sixth Sense. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Me too
But bc we need defense badly,
not bc i think as little of Sam as u seem to - jdfitz77
Have you seen him this year?
He’s had 6-7 good games out of what, 46?
We seem to overvalue the two perennial 40 point wingers on this team |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Have you seen him this year?
He’s had 6-7 good games out of what, 46?
We seem to overvalue the two perennial 40 point wingers on this team - sbroads24
I’m not denying his sh!tty start
And stop classifying Kane as a 40point player
It’s nonsense |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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At 3C for us NEXT year?
Highly doubtful - jdfitz77
post lockout |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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post lockout - homiedclown
Oooooooh
Ok, yeah... that’s possible
I thought we were talking about next season
My bad |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Oooooooh
Ok, yeah... that’s possible
I thought we were talking about next season
My bad - jdfitz77
you guys may have been
I was distracted at work
I think when we are good, davidsson is the 3rd line center |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I’m not denying his sh!tty start
And stop classifying Kane as a 40point player
It’s nonsense - jdfitz77
That’s what he is.
And before you say “Joe Thornton doesn’t score goals”
He’s scored 100 points multiple times without being a huge goal scorer
Oh and he has more 30 goal seasons than Kane
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homiedclown
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homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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FIFY
He should've just stopped after The Sixth Sense. They were all poop after that. Having said that Signs was probably the best of the bunch after The Sixth Sense. - Wetbandit1
Split was pretty damn good. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Split was pretty damn good. - kingcong39
Unbreakable
I have not seen split yet though |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Ok, but this depends on scenario.
Carolina for example is looking for a top 6-9 forward
They have 7 D men who are either top 4, or top 4 potential.
I’d rather acquire Jake Bean or Haydn Fleury, and replace Reinhart with a cost effective player, than overlay for an established D man.
Like I said, it’s not always going to work. But we know now what Reinhart is. Swing away - sbroads24
I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised that the current run Sam is on, while not playing with Eichel, is the indicator the next step in his development is underway, if only because you're 100% certain he's nothing more than a blah 20-20 guy after his 3rd pro season while historically it has taken up to a 6th to 7th pro season for players, yes even top 5 picks, to show their best. |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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Unbreakable
I have not seen split yet though - homiedclown
He is editing 'Glass' now, and that's all I'll say. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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That’s what he is.
And before you say “Joe Thornton doesn’t score goals”
He’s scored 100 points multiple times without being a huge goal scorer
Oh and he has more 30 goal seasons than Kane
- sbroads24
That’s still a bad (and quite biased way) to characterize him
And u know it
25goals & 15assists
is better than
15goals & 25assists
But u act like they’re the same thing |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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That’s still a bad (and quite biased way) to characterize him
And u know it
25goals & 15assists
is better than
15goals & 25assists
But u act like they’re the same thing - jdfitz77
It is? I disagree. It’s the same
Kane sets up way fewer goals than most top 6 players
You don’t think that negatively effects his line mates ?
He’s statistically an awful passer |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised that the current run Sam is on, while not playing with Eichel, is the indicator the next step in his development is underway, if only because you're 100% certain he's nothing more than a blah 20-20 guy after his 3rd pro season while historically it has taken up to a 6th to 7th pro season for players, yes even top 5 picks, to show their best. - kingcong39
You could be right. I just wouldn’t count on it.
The guys who take years to develope didn’t have the mental aspects of the game down, or the opportunity on the top line like Reinhart did from day 1 (in year 2)
It’s guys like Drouin who wasn’t “trusted” or didn’t know where to be and had to deal with constant demotions that take years to develope.
And yes, there are outliers on each side of the fence |
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