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kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Feb 2 @ 7:34 PM ET
the best lines in the eye test have been 1, 4, 2 has been Ok mostly because Nick. 3 has just looked bad. I will say the AA does goto the front of the net and camps out so as long as Nick and Kane shoot the puck It might work. SAAD wingels bouma is strictly a dump and chase so I guess that plays to all there strengths. Sucks that SAAD is now a 3rd liner. He just does not control the puck that well now. Confidence has to be real low. was never shifty but was always fast and strong with puck.
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Feb 2 @ 8:06 PM ET
First, keep in mind term of contract, AA is not a rental, so it would have to be to somewhere where they can stomach the $$'s for a few years.

Also, it has to be somewhere where AA can see himself for a few more years. He is in control here.

With that being said, I dont think he goes to a team in the Central.

Teams that make sense to me would be:

PIT
NJ
MTL (I know they're out but need C for future)
SJ
CAL


Calgary is the most intriguing one there. They need help up front and have cap space now and next year.

If they are scared they are going to loose Backlund next year (good possibility because someone will overpay in a weak FA pool) they can slide Anisimov in as a replacement next year. The big question is would AA waive, not sure.

The Hawks need a top 4 shutdown D... Calgary has one that they may part with... Michael Stone (27 years old with 2 more years at 3.5M after this season).

Would you do do: Anisimov and Rutta for Michael Stone (and a pick/prospect)?

- Justin Lowe


Why would Bowman trade for a guy who has two years left on his contract when he gave away a scoring machine because his contract had only two years left?
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Feb 2 @ 8:26 PM ET
Why would Bowman trade for a guy who has two years left on his contract when he gave away a scoring machine because his contract had only two years left?
- Savoy


Much different situation from Panarin (who I assume you're talking about, not Mr. Panik, ha).

If Stone can play a top 4 in a shutdown role... he's only at 3.5M which is a steal.

He's 27 years old and is a strong character guy.

I have not heard anything specific on Stone, just putting the pieces together based on what I heard; Hawks are looking at a top 4 D or a guy that could conceivably move into that role (a la Oduya) and they are willing to take a guy with term if he's younger and the cap hit is reasonable.

Also, looking for more role/character players.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 2 @ 8:27 PM ET
31 games left - “only” 5 points out - yeah, even with having to pass 4 teams - not lottery time yet.

This season’s history says “no”, but if they can go 15/16/17 points in the next 10 with several of the games against th teams ahead of them in the WC chase (Cal x 2, Stars, Minnie, Annie, LAK)....Possible, if not likely.

If they can only manage 10 points or less - if they can’t make up ground - if they’re in the same spot with only 20 games left - yeah, lottery.

- StLBravesFan


I’m not trying to be all “end of the world” here, but what have the Hawks shown in the last two months that would point to them being able to pull that off?

They force passes (often drop passes), which go the other way instead of taking prime shots in the slot. Pass themselves into danger. They have no real concept for the power play other than watching the man with the puck.

IMO, this team with its current direction has no shot of the playoffs.
isu83boo
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.25.2017

Feb 2 @ 11:23 PM ET
All the negativity. I think they are only 10-12 players away from competing for a cup.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Feb 3 @ 12:44 AM ET
All the negativity. I think they are only 10-12 players away from competing for a cup.
- isu83boo


That's really silly to say.


They are only 8 players away.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Feb 3 @ 1:25 AM ET
Much different situation from Panarin (who I assume you're talking about, not Mr. Panik, ha).

If Stone can play a top 4 in a shutdown role... he's only at 3.5M which is a steal.

He's 27 years old and is a strong character guy.

I have not heard anything specific on Stone, just putting the pieces together based on what I heard; Hawks are looking at a top 4 D or a guy that could conceivably move into that role (a la Oduya) and they are willing to take a guy with term if he's younger and the cap hit is reasonable.

Also, looking for more role/character players.

- Justin Lowe


And Stone is a right shot which is usually a good thing as a Dman but the Hawks have Murphy and Seabs as rightys already........ I always liked Stone. Good size, ain't shy and will play physical, average skater and IIRC good shot. I think he's at least a very good 5 and maybe a 4 Dman on a solid team. He's a 3rd talent with offensive back class in jrs: http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=11708

Agreed at 27 and inked for 2 more yrs at 3.5 he's a nice fit and checks a few boxes.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Feb 3 @ 2:14 AM ET
And Stone is a right shot which is usually a good thing as a Dman but the Hawks have Murphy and Seabs as rightys already........ I always liked Stone. Good size, ain't shy and will play physical, average skater and IIRC good shot. I think he's at least a very good 5 and maybe a 4 Dman on a solid team. He's a 3rd talent with offensive back class in jrs: http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=11708

Agreed at 27 and inked for 2 more yrs at 3.5 he's a nice fit and checks a few boxes.

- Mr Ricochet

I've also always liked Stone for the same reasons you stated. He would fit what the team is looking for: an experienced defender who fills a need, is relatively young, has a decent salary and term, possesses great character and leadership, and is well liked by teammates. I wouldn't mind at all if the team's RHD are Seabrook, Murphy, Stone, and Rutta.

Even if Rutta is expendable, he could be a trade asset along with Kempny and/or Gustafsson. Within a few years, one would hope Jokiharju is one of the starting RHD. I guess there's Clendening in the short term, but I'd rather not break the glass unless there's an emergency.

At LHD you're starting with Keith and Forsling, then likely Oesterle until a prospect like Dahlstrom, Snuggerud, or even Carlsson, Krys, or Mitchell work their way up the ranks.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Feb 3 @ 3:18 AM ET
He already explained in a comment above yours that he meant lesser in the standings. hawks have 11 more points.
- JRoenick97



MY BAD!

Sorry. I didn`t see that comment. To be fair though..... Canucks fans are not used to hear the term `lesser team" as there are so few times we play one.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 3 @ 8:23 AM ET
And Stone is a right shot which is usually a good thing as a Dman but the Hawks have Murphy and Seabs as rightys already........ I always liked Stone. Good size, ain't shy and will play physical, average skater and IIRC good shot. I think he's at least a very good 5 and maybe a 4 Dman on a solid team. He's a 3rd talent with offensive back class in jrs: http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=11708

Agreed at 27 and inked for 2 more yrs at 3.5 he's a nice fit and checks a few boxes.

- Mr Ricochet

I like his brother the RW in Ottawa even better. Competitive, physical, puts the puck in the net. I'd move a couple of pieces off the Hawks to get him.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 3 @ 8:32 AM ET
That's really silly to say.


They are only 8 players away.

- Justin Lowe


nope...split the difference...10 away
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 3 @ 8:52 AM ET
current WC fight

Stars 62
Wild 61
Aves 61
Kings 59
Flames 59
Hawks 55

6 pts back need to leap 4 teams with 31 games left
head to head games left: stars (1), wild (1), aves (3), Kings (2), flames (2) oh not mention sharks (3), and ducks (2)

summary: 9-2-1 vs in those games and they might have a chance; provided the other 4 teams lose; also these 4 teams will playing each other alot and sadly no double losers available...

we are now in the season of alot of 3 pt games...

not happening with this team with as many issues as the hawks...they have not come close to playing and winning at that level all year..

just like last year the last 4 games of the season vs aves, blues (2x), jets will be meaningless for far different reasons...
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Feb 3 @ 9:07 AM ET
Looking at the schedule up to the TDL, I think they split with Cal, beat AZ and OTT, but the other games are toss-ups at best. If they only go 4-5-1, are we officially sellers?
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 3 @ 9:21 AM ET
current WC fight

Stars 62
Wild 61
Aves 61
Kings 59
Flames 59
Hawks 55

6 pts back need to leap 4 teams with 31 games left
head to head games left: stars (1), wild (1), aves (3), Kings (2), flames (2) oh not mention sharks (3), and ducks (2)

summary: 9-2-1 vs in those games and they might have a chance; provided the other 4 teams lose; also these 4 teams will playing each other alot and sadly no double losers available...

we are now in the season of alot of 3 pt games...

not happening with this team with as many issues as the hawks...they have not come close to playing and winning at that level all year..

just like last year the last 4 games of the season vs aves, blues (2x), jets will be meaningless for far different reasons...

- bogiedoc


All but 4 or 5 guys will be available at the trade deadline. If Bowman can turn them into better assets going forward, so much the better.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Feb 3 @ 9:30 AM ET
First, keep in mind term of contract, AA is not a rental, so it would have to be to somewhere where they can stomach the $$'s for a few years.

Also, it has to be somewhere where AA can see himself for a few more years. He is in control here.

With that being said, I dont think he goes to a team in the Central.

Teams that make sense to me would be:

PIT
NJ
MTL (I know they're out but need C for future)
SJ
CAL


Calgary is the most intriguing one there. They need help up front and have cap space now and next year.

If they are scared they are going to loose Backlund next year (good possibility because someone will overpay in a weak FA pool) they can slide Anisimov in as a replacement next year. The big question is would AA waive, not sure.

The Hawks need a top 4 shutdown D... Calgary has one that they may part with... Michael Stone (27 years old with 2 more years at 3.5M after this season).

Would you do do: Anisimov and Rutta for Michael Stone (and a pick/prospect)?

- Justin Lowe


If the pick is in this years draft and this year is truly a burn year then yes.
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Feb 3 @ 9:50 AM ET
What about going back to Columbus for David Savard? We need another Savard in a Blackhawks uniform.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Feb 3 @ 10:04 AM ET
All but 4 or 5 guys will be available at the trade deadline. If Bowman can turn them into better assets going forward, so much the better.
- RickJ


Anisimov for a 1st
Wingels for a 3rd
Rutta for a 4th
Kempny for a 4th
Sharp for a conditional pick
Bouma for a 6th
Keith for a 1st, 2nd, and TOP prospect
Seabrook for cap space and a traffic cone
Hartman and 2nd for one of Carolina's young NHL Dmen (slavin??)

Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 3 @ 10:29 AM ET
Anisimov for a 1st
Wingels for a 3rd
Rutta for a 4th
Kempny for a 4th
Sharp for a conditional pick
Bouma for a 6th
Keith for a 1st, 2nd, and TOP prospect
Seabrook for cap space and a traffic cone
Hartman and 2nd for one of Carolina's young NHL Dmen (slavin??)

- EnzoD[/quote

Not with our current GM he likes his team that's is bottoming out that all makes sense but not bowman. So here my question say writz
& mcdough took a step back and took an objective view at everything and cleans house top to bottom who replaces bowmans and the coaching staff, any ideas?
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
Anisimov for a 1st
Wingels for a 3rd
Rutta for a 4th
Kempny for a 4th
Sharp for a conditional pick
Bouma for a 6th
Keith for a 1st, 2nd, and TOP prospect
Seabrook for cap space and a traffic cone
Hartman and 2nd for one of Carolina's young NHL Dmen (slavin??)

- EnzoD

Where's Saad on this list? I can certainly see him getting moved if a team was willing to pay up.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:46 AM ET
Anisimov for a 1st
Wingels for a 3rd
Rutta for a 4th
Kempny for a 4th
Sharp for a conditional pick
Bouma for a 6th
Keith for a 1st, 2nd, and TOP prospect
Seabrook for cap space and a traffic cone
Hartman and 2nd for one of Carolina's young NHL Dmen (slavin??)

- EnzoD


where is that trade'm all meme when you need it...
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:51 AM ET
I’m not trying to be all “end of the world” here, but what have the Hawks shown in the last two months that would point to them being able to pull that off?

They force passes (often drop passes), which go the other way instead of taking prime shots in the slot. Pass themselves into danger. They have no real concept for the power play other than watching the man with the puck.

IMO, this team with its current direction has no shot of the playoffs.

- Chunk


The competitive spirit and experience of the remaining core - 2/7/19/88 - no matter how poorly some of them have been playing - they know how to win and should be playing hard to avoid the ignomy of missing the play-offs after the success they’ve had.

The continued improvement of the skilled, speedy young players - 8/12/91/48/5/82 - keep playing like they have and follow the lead of the remaining core.

The continued good play of the roll playing bottom lines/pairing.

Do I think it will happen? Probably not.

But it certainly could.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:51 AM ET
maybe one of those crack reporters like lazerus...can ask Q why glass is playing tonight...when forsberg has played really well of late...he had no chance on those nuck goals the other night...

must win (again) vs a speed team and tough building and he goes with glass...

ok....

RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 3 @ 10:55 AM ET
maybe one of those crack reporters like lazerus...can ask Q why glass is playing tonight...when forsberg has played really well of late...he had no chance on those nuck goals the other night...

must win (again) vs a speed team and tough building and he goes with glass...

ok....

- bogiedoc

Glass is from Calgary, his mommy wants to see him play. And if Bouma dresses, he's an ex-Flame from Alberta.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 3 @ 10:59 AM ET
Glass is from Calgary, his mommy wants to see him play. And if Bouma dresses, he's an ex-Flame from Alberta.
- RickJ



oh...ok...gee and I thought a "playoff" push was the goal from a team that is 2-4-1 with two breaks during that span...with brutal loses to the wings, isles and knucks..

but WTF do i know....
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 3 @ 11:08 AM ET
oh...ok...gee and I thought a "playoff" push was the goal from a team that is 2-4-1 with two breaks during that span...with brutal loses to the wings, isles and knucks..

but WTF do i know....

- bogiedoc

'Playoff push' rhetoric is for public consumption by the ticket buying public. Games like the one in Vancouver make the viewer seriously question whether the player's got that memo. But I expect a very good effort tonight, the boys know they are the late game on Hockey Night in Canada.
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