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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
11. Chicago Blackhawks: Joseph Veleno, C, Drummondville (QMJHL)

The Blackhawks are a little light on high-end center prospects, and this about the spot we could start to see centers go. Veleno's stock has yo-yoed a bit this year, but he's currently trending up, as are his numbers since being traded to Drummondville. A gifted playmaker, Veleno has good speed and plays a responsible two-way game.

- kmw4631



I'd like to see the Hawks grab Noah Dobson in the draft this year.

http://www.mynhldraft.com...raft-Profiles/Noah-Dobson
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Feb 6 @ 11:50 AM ET
Blackhawks power play units at practice
1. Seabrook, Kane, Schmaltz, Hinostroza & Anisimov
2. Oesterle, Toews, Duclair, DeBrincat & Hartman

At least Q seems to have finally relented after switching back to his preferred approach (incl Keith, 5-on-5 lines, etc.) and getting nothing for it

ETA: although it does appear he's still putting the 5-on-5 guys together
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Feb 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
Powers said yesterday that he thinks Murphy would be the healthy scratch for tonight's game.
- DarthKane

Scratched guys usually practice still though. Just a little weird. Maybe he's nursing something.
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
In my dream world...

Anisimov is traded to Vegas and along with the future considerations owed, nets the hawks a top 4 d such as Merrill or Schmidt.

Hartman is used to trade Hossa's cap space.

Seabrook retires in the offseason as he doesn't want to be a boat anchor for the team. The Hawks hire him as assistant coach for Rockford.

The cap goes up 5 mil.

Hawks resign rutta & wingels
Hawks sign Tavares in the offseason for 10M/yr for 7 years.

Lines next year:

debrincat - Tavares - duclair/Sikura
saad/hayden - Schmaltz - Kane
hayden/saad - toews - duclair/sikura
wingels/? - kampf - hino

Keith - oesterle
Schmidt/Merrill - Murphy
forsling - rutta

walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
Scratched guys usually practice still though. Just a little weird. Maybe he's nursing something.
- JRoenick97


Yep I don’t think this was an optional skate, he’s either injured, sick or a trade is in the works.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
It would be fun to all go troll him on the Preds board, since they have like all of 3 fans on HB you know he'll see our posts.
- Murph76

LOL agreed however we would be sinking to his pathetic a$$ mentality. Trust me I thought about it.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Feb 6 @ 12:06 PM ET
In my dream world...

Anisimov is traded to Vegas and along with the future considerations owed, nets the hawks a top 4 d such as Merrill or Schmidt.

Hartman is used to trade Hossa's cap space.

Seabrook retires in the offseason as he doesn't want to be a boat anchor for the team. The Hawks hire him as assistant coach for Rockford.

The cap goes up 5 mil.

Hawks resign rutta & wingels
Hawks sign Tavares in the offseason for 10M/yr for 7 years.

Lines next year:

debrincat - Tavares - duclair/Sikura
saad/hayden - Schmaltz - Kane
hayden/saad - toews - duclair/sikura
wingels/? - kampf - hino

Keith - oesterle
Schmidt/Merrill - Murphy
forsling - rutta


- ToewsdNKanefusd


Wow, that's some mental gymnastics right there
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
sick burn
- BlazinMike

Not even close bro
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
Wow, that's some mental gymnastics right there
- BlazinMike

He did say dream world.
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:11 PM ET
Wow, that's some mental gymnastics right there
- BlazinMike




The only reason I thought of Tavares, is that I was reading an article about him and the Isles woes, and wondered if he is going to re-sign with them. It then brought on the thought that he would look great as a hawk!...and then today I thought of a way that he could fit under the cap on the Hawks, but only if Seabrook retires...trading seabrook would almost definitely net you a bad contract in return, and there then wouldn't be enough room.

That is one thing that no one ever brings up. Could Seabrook decide to retire if he thinks he can't keep up anymore?
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:16 PM ET


The only reason I thought of Tavares, is that I was reading an article about him and the Isles woes, and wondered if he is going to re-sign with them. It then brought on the thought that he would look great as a hawk!...and then today I thought of a way that he could fit under the cap on the Hawks, but only if Seabrook retires...trading seabrook would almost definitely net you a bad contract in return, and there then wouldn't be enough room.

That is one thing that no one ever brings up. Could Seabrook decide to retire if he thinks he can't keep up anymore?

- ToewsdNKanefusd



I don't think he actually will retire this year. I think he hits the gym and ice really hard this summer and tries to get in really good shape for next year. If he still can't hack it next year, then maybe he decides its time...
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:16 PM ET


The only reason I thought of Tavares, is that I was reading an article about him and the Isles woes, and wondered if he is going to re-sign with them. It then brought on the thought that he would look great as a hawk!...and then today I thought of a way that he could fit under the cap on the Hawks, but only if Seabrook retires...trading seabrook would almost definitely net you a bad contract in return, and there then wouldn't be enough room.

That is one thing that no one ever brings up. Could Seabrook decide to retire if he thinks he can't keep up anymore?

- ToewsdNKanefusd

I've had an eye on Tavares for a bit this season. I would even consider trading Kane for him if he guaranteed a re-sign with us.

Schmaltz-Tavares-Sikura
Saad-Toews-ADB
Hino-Kampf-Duclair
Hayden-Wingels-Jurco/whoever
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Feb 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
Jokiharju's game ins't much like Keith's though. He's much more of an offensive D-man. Like Campbell.
- JRoenick97

I'd have to agree with you: Jokiharju and even Krys are offensive d-men like Campbell. The closest to being Keith-like are Forsling (if he can amp up his defensive game) and Mitchell (if he can add a lot more strength). A pivotal factor for Keith's success isn't just his skill but his freakish gym habits. Being in tip-top shape and strong for his size are what made Keith all-world and a two-time Norris winner, IMHO.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Feb 6 @ 12:24 PM ET
He had two hot stretches earlier in the year, sandwiched with some 'meh' performance. His first 10 games he was pretty awful. He got hot for a bit off and on. Then he scored once in December and hasn't scored since then. Defensively he can be okay, but sometimes his soft play is frustrating as faster players get a step on him and around him.

He can be a useful player, but he has his own issues too. Some coaches say that love because they can move up and down the lineup, but AA, is only useful when you put two extremely talented wingers on the ice with him. When he is on, he is good, when he is off, he is pretty invisible. He is hurt frequently and his value was never going to be higher than it was. It would be great if they could get some consistency in his game. I do think they could have moved him to fill in a gap on the roster (and other assets/prospects) and then signed another C with size to the roster.

- breadbag


Right now AA has been either slotted at 3C, or for some reason he's playing on the wing with Schmaltz-Kane when the Hawks have a surplus of middle six wingers. Another poster said that Anisimov would not garner as much return via trade at the deadline because he has term left on his contract. I'd argue the exact opposite. IMO, trading for an asset you will have for 2 more seasons provides more value than a player on an expiring contract. If the Hawks continue their .500 or below play like they have for 4+ months of this season, Big Art is a perfect way to add a 1st round pick and possibly a prospect. I'd bet he'd waive to go to Washington or Pittsburgh to play 3C with some of the best Russians in the world in Ovi or Malkin.
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
I don't think he actually will retire this year. I think he hits the gym and ice really hard this summer and tries to get in really good shape for next year. If he still can't hack it next year, then maybe he decides its time...
- ToewsdNKanefusd


So, lets say that Seabrook doesn't retire, and comes back next year ready to play.

The trade with Vegas still goes down, and the hawks sign a free agent 2L/3L center (Statsny/Bozak/Backlund/Eller):

debrincat - toews - duclair/sikura
saad/hayden - schmaltz - kane
hayden/saad - FA - sikura/duclair
wingels/? - kampf - hino

keith - oesterle
Merrill/Schmidt - seabrook
forsling - murphy

If the core bounces back next season, that is a pretty great line up, no?
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:29 PM ET
Yep I don’t think this was an optional skate, he’s either injured, sick or a trade is in the works.
- walleyeb1

Murphy is sick.
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Feb 6 @ 12:35 PM ET
I've had an eye on Tavares for a bit this season. I would even consider trading Kane for him if he guaranteed a re-sign with us.

Schmaltz-Tavares-Sikura
Saad-Toews-ADB
Hino-Kampf-Duclair
Hayden-Wingels-Jurco/whoever

- JRoenick97



Is Tavares any good defensively? If so, then he would be an upgrade over Kane, plus he is a center. So I would actually do that trade in that case (even though Kane is my favorite player to watch, and I would be sad to see him in another sweater)
tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:36 PM ET
Right now AA has been either slotted at 3C, or for some reason he's playing on the wing with Schmaltz-Kane when the Hawks have a surplus of middle six wingers. Another poster said that Anisimov would not garner as much return via trade at the deadline because he has term left on his contract. I'd argue the exact opposite. IMO, trading for an asset you will have for 2 more seasons provides more value than a player on an expiring contract. If the Hawks continue their .500 or below play like they have for 4+ months of this season, Big Art is a perfect way to add a 1st round pick and possibly a prospect. I'd bet he'd waive to go to Washington or Pittsburgh to play 3C with some of the best Russians in the world in Ovi or Malkin.
- EnzoD


Thank you! I thought the same thing when I read that. While contracts with term left are normally traded in the offseason (or at least not normally at the TDL) there is absolutely no way a player with no term left will fetch more in a TDL deal than the same player with term left. To say otherwise is absolutely ridiculous.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
Is Tavares any good defensively? If so, then he would be an upgrade over Kane, plus he is a center. So I would actually do that trade in that case (even though Kane is my favorite player to watch, and I would be sad to see him in another sweater)
- ToewsdNKanefusd

He's always been over 50% Corsi and plays penalty kill. Split almost even offense and defensive faceoffs.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
In my dream world...

Anisimov is traded to Vegas and along with the future considerations owed, nets the hawks a top 4 d such as Merrill or Schmidt.

Hartman is used to trade Hossa's cap space.

Seabrook retires in the offseason as he doesn't want to be a boat anchor for the team. The Hawks hire him as assistant coach for Rockford.

The cap goes up 5 mil.

Hawks resign rutta & wingels
Hawks sign Tavares in the offseason for 10M/yr for 7 years.

Lines next year:

debrincat - Tavares - duclair/Sikura
saad/hayden - Schmaltz - Kane
hayden/saad - toews - duclair/sikura
wingels/? - kampf - hino

Keith - oesterle
Schmidt/Merrill - Murphy
forsling - rutta


- ToewsdNKanefusd


Do we really need another $10 million contract on the team? Losing Seabrook would help but it's a big risk to take on, even for Tavares.
HawksHype
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.08.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:56 PM ET
Do we really need another $10 million contract on the team? Losing Seabrook would help but it's a big risk to take on, even for Tavares.
- DarthKane


What else would we complain about in 5 years?
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Feb 6 @ 12:58 PM ET
What else would we complain about in 5 years?
- HawksHype

Bowman.
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:58 PM ET
Do we really need another $10 million contract on the team? Losing Seabrook would help but it's a big risk to take on, even for Tavares.
- DarthKane



Move Anisimov and find a taker for Hossa's contract. All of a sudden you have quite a bit of cap room.

I would not trade Kane for Tavares.
HawksHype
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.08.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:59 PM ET
Bowman.
- JRoenick97


Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Feb 6 @ 12:59 PM ET
Right now AA has been either slotted at 3C, or for some reason he's playing on the wing with Schmaltz-Kane when the Hawks have a surplus of middle six wingers. Another poster said that Anisimov would not garner as much return via trade at the deadline because he has term left on his contract. I'd argue the exact opposite. IMO, trading for an asset you will have for 2 more seasons provides more value than a player on an expiring contract. If the Hawks continue their .500 or below play like they have for 4+ months of this season, Big Art is a perfect way to add a 1st round pick and possibly a prospect. I'd bet he'd waive to go to Washington or Pittsburgh to play 3C with some of the best Russians in the world in Ovi or Malkin.
- EnzoD


Hockey Trade...

AA to Pittsburgh for Cole

Who says no? Maybe Pit throws in a conditional draft pick depending on if Cole resigns with the Hawks or not, but even if he did leave from FA that's 4.5M off the cap that could be used to sign another D-man in FA.
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