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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 5 @ 3:07 PM ET
http://slice.seriouseats.com/2012/12/the-pizza-lab-why-does-pepperoni-curl.html

This will tell you everything you need to know about "Cup and Char" pepperoni. I only hope that this link does not cause the same poope show as the last one.

- staples


I need more pepperoni now.
51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buttplug, NY
Joined: 08.15.2013

Feb 5 @ 3:11 PM ET
http://slice.seriouseats.com/2012/12/the-pizza-lab-why-does-pepperoni-curl.html

This will tell you everything you need to know about "Cup and Char" pepperoni. I only hope that this link does not cause the same poope show as the last one.

- staples


Good read! Who knew there was a right and wrong way to stuff your meat.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:14 PM ET
I know I have that problem here also. Nothing like Buffalo pizza
- SABRES 89


You’re out in Vegas, right?

I’ve never been, but hear good things about this place
It’s a “buffalo” bar
http://www.johnnymacswings.com
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 3:14 PM ET
Kane’s “value” going up was based on Botts raising his price bc the demand for him was high
I know that’s a super complicated concept for u to digest though

As far as Lehner goes...
yeah, he’s played good for a stretch of games
U really think we can get a 1st for him now?
I don’t
I think GMs know what he is based on his past couple years of play

Just like they do with Kane

- jdfitz77


Kanes value is down. Plain and simple. He is a locker room problem which could be overlooked by some teams if was playing great. He is not playing well.

I never said that lehner is now worth a 1st.
He may have been worth absolutely nothing when he was pulled in 3 out of 5 games. Who would want that?

Now he is playing well and I imagine a few gms would possibly want a hot goalie to lead them to the playoffs and beyond.

I'm sure you comprehend this concept, but are to stubborn to ever admit you are wrong.

Let me guess , foles isn't worth anymore than he was 3 games ago?

I'll hang up and listen
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:17 PM ET
You’re out in Vegas, right?

I’ve never been, but hear good things about this place
It’s a “buffalo” bar
http://www.johnnymacswings.com

- jdfitz77

I've been there, Beef on Weck is great
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:18 PM ET
Kanes value is down. Plain and simple. He is a locker room problem which could be overlooked by some teams if was playing great. He is not playing well.

I never said that lehner is now worth a 1st.
He may have been worth absolutely nothing when he was pulled in 3 out of 5 games. Who would want that?

Now he is playing well and I imagine a few gms would possibly want a hot goalie to lead them to the playoffs and beyond.

I'm sure you comprehend this concept, but are to stubborn to ever admit you are wrong.

Let me guess , foles isn't worth anymore than he was 3 games ago?

I'll hang up and listen

- Boss34



No, u won’t listen

SUPPLY & DEMAND determine a player’s “value” much more than a hot or cold streak of a few games

Why did Botts raise his asking price for Kane if his value was down?
That would be dumb
Botts doesn’t strike me as a dumb guy
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
I've been there, Beef on Weck is great
- SABRES 89


I’m about to go grab a couple beef on wecks with my dad
Great stuff


Pizza there is no good though?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:20 PM ET
I’m about to go grab a couple beef on wecks with my dad
Great stuff


Pizza there is no good though?

- jdfitz77

Pizza, depends yes and no
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:24 PM ET
Pizza, depends yes and no
- SABRES 89


Word

Btw, most of us appreciate the info u drop

Just ignore the jackasses (if possible)
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 3:30 PM ET
No, u won’t listen

SUPPLY & DEMAND determine a player’s “value” much more than a hot or cold streak of a few games

Why did Botts raise his asking price for Kane if his value was down?
That would be dumb
Botts doesn’t strike me as a dumb guy

- jdfitz77



Ok so my car is worth 10,000 2 moinths ago

I am asking 12,000
A few people call, I raise the price to 15,000

Just because I ask for more money, doesn't mean it's worth more.

Then the cars paint starts to fade the past 2 months after it was looking sharp.

The 10,000 value didn't go up because I asked more.

If anything it went down, because less people now like the look of the car.

Get it now?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 3:39 PM ET
Ok so my car is worth 10,000 2 moinths ago

I am asking 12,000
A few people call, I raise the price to 15,000

Just because I ask for more money, doesn't mean it's worth more.

Then the cars paint starts to fade the past 2 months after it was looking sharp.

The 10,000 value didn't go up because I asked more.

If anything it went down, because less people now like the look of the car.

Get it now?

- Boss34


Or:

The north buffalo housing market is booming.

Everyone likes to purchase homes in the spring- the nhl trade deadline

I list a house for way more than its worth.-kane

Everyone wants to live in north buffalo and get excited when a new home is listed

Everyone takes a look at the house, but it doesn't show well in person. - Kane in person

I raise the price - supposedly what jbotts did

How does that change the actual value of the home?

It doesn't. The home is worth what someone is willing to pay. Not what the asking price is.

Now more nicer houses are on the market. How is the value UP


Get it yet?




jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:43 PM ET
Ok so my car is worth 10,000 2 moinths ago

I am asking 12,000
A few people call, I raise the price to 15,000

Just because I ask for more money, doesn't mean it's worth more.

Then the cars paint starts to fade the past 2 months after it was looking sharp.

The 10,000 value didn't go up because I asked more.

If anything it went down, because less people now like the look of the car.

Get it now?

- Boss34


Apples & oranges dude
But in your example...
if your car was the best available
And u had multiple ppl who REALLY wanted it
Then yes,
u very well could have a situation where ppl are bidding & that drives up the “value”
Cars are a bad example though

That sort of thing happens with houses all the time though
A house on a desired block or part of town goes for above its “value” all the time
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:44 PM ET
Word

Btw, most of us appreciate the info u drop

Just ignore the jackasses (if possible)

- jdfitz77

I'm just trying to help, by no means am I trying to start any problems.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:46 PM ET
I'm just trying to help, by no means am I trying to start any problems.
- SABRES 89


Just ignore the haters

Especially the ones who rant & rave like lunatics
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
Kanes value is down. Plain and simple. He is a locker room problem which could be overlooked by some teams if was playing great. He is not playing well.

I never said that lehner is now worth a 1st.
He may have been worth absolutely nothing when he was pulled in 3 out of 5 games. Who would want that?

Now he is playing well and I imagine a few gms would possibly want a hot goalie to lead them to the playoffs and beyond.

I'm sure you comprehend this concept, but are to stubborn to ever admit you are wrong.

Let me guess , foles isn't worth anymore than he was 3 games ago?

I'll hang up and listen

- Boss34



The simple fact of the matter is you have no idea if his value is up or down, none of us do. The only person that knows the answer to that is botts. You have proof of a locker room problem? If he’s a locker room problem then botts should have gotten rid of the problem a long time ago, (now botts is a problem).

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 3:57 PM ET
Apples & oranges dude
But in your example...
if your car was the best available
And u had multiple ppl who REALLY wanted it
Then yes,
u very well could have a situation where ppl are bidding & that drives up the “value”
Cars are a bad example though

That sort of thing happens with houses all the time though
A house on a desired block or part of town goes for above its “value” all the time

- jdfitz77




Houses sell for above "asking price" but the selling price is the best indicator of value.



Everyone was looking at the house. Then the owner raised the price because it was freshly painted.

Now the paint is flaking away and being selfish, arguing with the garbage can.

3 new houses that were painted by a reputable company are now on the market. How does that make the original house worth more?

The PERCEIVED value is not UP.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 5 @ 3:58 PM ET
Ok so my car is worth 10,000 2 moinths ago

I am asking 12,000
A few people call, I raise the price to 15,000

Just because I ask for more money, doesn't mean it's worth more.

Then the cars paint starts to fade the past 2 months after it was looking sharp.

The 10,000 value didn't go up because I asked more.

If anything it went down, because less people now like the look of the car.

Get it now?

- Boss34


Your pizza (Kane) was delicious. It had crispy cup pepperoni and a nice cheese blend. Then you took the pepp off (Eichel) and added horrible olives (playing with Larsson).

You can take the olives off but you still taste the olives (decreased value)

Olives on pizza is an abomination
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 5 @ 3:59 PM ET
Or:

The north buffalo housing market is booming.

Everyone likes to purchase homes in the spring- the nhl trade deadline

I list a house for way more than its worth.-kane

Everyone wants to live in north buffalo and get excited when a new home is listed

Everyone takes a look at the house, but it doesn't show well in person. - Kane in person

I raise the price - supposedly what jbotts did

How does that change the actual value of the home?

It doesn't. The home is worth what someone is willing to pay. Not what the asking price is.

Now more nicer houses are on the market. How is the value UP


Get it yet?

- Boss34


I sold my first house in north buffalo in 2008 for 80k. It’s now worth 160k.

Worst financial mistake I have ever made.

I did make a cool 13k in 2 years and paid my student loans off at the age of 24 though
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 4:00 PM ET
The simple fact of the matter is you have no idea if his value is up or down, none of us do. The only person that knows the answer to that is botts. You have proof of a locker room problem? If he’s a locker room problem then botts should have gotten rid of the problem a long time ago, (now botts is a problem).
- gordong


How is a players on ice play not an indicator of his value?

That's what contracts are based on.

His value in not UP
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 4:02 PM ET
Your pizza (Kane) was delicious. It had crispy cup pepperoni and a nice cheese blend. Then you took the pepp off (Eichel) and added horrible olives (playing with Larsson).

You can take the olives off but you still taste the olives (decreased value)

Olives on pizza is an abomination

- jcragcrumple



That's excellent. And the olive pizza is worth less
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 5 @ 4:05 PM ET
Houses sell for above "asking price" but the selling price is the best indicator of value.



Everyone was looking at the house. Then the owner raised the price because it was freshly painted.

Now the paint is flaking away and being selfish, arguing with the garbage can.

3 new houses that were painted by a reputable company are now on the market. How does that make the original house worth more?

The PERCEIVED value is not UP.

- Boss34



Again...
it comes down to supply & demand

I’m assuming the DEMAND for Kane is high
Otherwise it would’ve made ZERO sense for Botts to raise the price

I’ve still yet to hear an explanation from u on why Botts would do that if the value was down
Makes no sense
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 4:07 PM ET
I sold my first house in north buffalo in 2008 for 80k. It’s now worth 160k.

Worst financial mistake I have ever made.

I did make a cool 13k in 2 years and paid my student loans off at the age of 24.

- Fattony1187



So selling Kane now is a mistake, because in 8 years he maybe worth twice as much?

Kidding





jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 5 @ 4:12 PM ET
This has turned into Facebook.
- 51_Killer



I'd say it's more like 4chan
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 4:13 PM ET
Again...
it comes down to supply & demand

I’m assuming the DEMAND for Kane is high
Otherwise it would’ve made ZERO sense for Botts to raise the price

I’ve still yet to hear an explanation from u on why Botts would do that if the value was down
Makes no sense

- jdfitz77


Just like my car scenario. People were calling and "kicking tires"

He asked more, now the car isn't running that well.

It's not worth as much . Other cars are available too.

Why over pay for the car that's been running slow for 2 months when you could buy a car that is running great?.

That great running car is more likely to get you to work and back - playoffs


51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buttplug, NY
Joined: 08.15.2013

Feb 5 @ 4:16 PM ET
You all are killing the analogy game today
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