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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:12 AM ET
And there is always the infamous 2003 year draft year.
- Pete V


Getz, Kesler and Perry

Parise too
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:13 AM ET
I would say that counts.
- mdw7413


like, if you try and look back at their thinking with this one

Lucien Deblois and Mike Bossy both played in the QMJHL

Deblois had 56 goals back to back years in his final two years of juniors

Bossy had 79 goals and 75 goals his last two years of juniors


so, in other words, what the (frank)?

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
Getz, Kesler and Perry

Parise too

- mdw7413


And then look who went 1 pick after Bobby Spaghetti in 2006 -- not a bonafide Superstar but a real good player.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
like, if you try and look back at their thinking with this one

Lucien Deblois and Mike Bossy both played in the QMJHL

Deblois had 56 goals back to back years in his final two years of juniors

Bossy had 79 goals and 75 goals his last two years of juniors


so, in other words, what the (frank)?

- jimbo83



So I guess we can say this has been a curse no matter coaching, scouting management
oyaron
New York Rangers
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 05.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
depends on how far you wanna go back

1977 they had the 8th and 13th picks and took Lucien Deblois and Ron Duguay

Islanders took Mike Bossy 15th overall

and, the Islanders also got John Tonelli in the 2nd round 33rd overall

- jimbo83


This is what I'm thinking about. You'd think in 40 years of drafting just plain luck would have given the Rangers someone offensively gifted. There's your curse.

When these trades happen, I don't want late first round draft picks, I want known prospects and players.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:16 AM ET


So I guess we can say this has been a curse no matter coaching, scouting management

- mdw7413


maybe it's because Bossy looked like somebody from the Rocky Horror Picture Show

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
And then look who went 1 pick after Bobby Spaghetti in 2006 -- not a bonafide Superstar but a real good player.
- Pete V


*Searches the googles*

Another bumhole. We missed out on some really bumhole good players.
oyaron
New York Rangers
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 05.02.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:16 AM ET


So I guess we can say this has been a curse no matter coaching, scouting management

- mdw7413


EXACTLY!!!!!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:19 AM ET
maybe it's because Bossy looked like somebody from the Rocky Horror Picture Show


- jimbo83

jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:19 AM ET
This is what I'm thinking about. You'd think in 40 years of drafting just plain luck would have given the Rangers someone offensively gifted. There's your curse.

When these trades happen, I don't want late first round draft picks, I want known prospects and players.

- oyaron


I think Murdoch could have been one pf those guys if he had stayed away from the stuff that got him into trouble

I think we also have to take into consideration that it was tough in the old days for really young players to succeed playing in NYC and keep away from the distractions
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 7 @ 11:20 AM ET

- mdw7413


mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:22 AM ET
I think Murdoch could have been one pf those guys if he had stayed away from the stuff that got him into trouble

I think we also have to take into consideration that it was tough in the old days for really young players to succeed playing in NYC and keep away from the distractions

- jimbo83


I think its tougher now. Its a much more diluted pool now. Back in the day it was players from only certain countries, now its the world. More players but drafting is a bit tougher I would think
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:24 AM ET
This is what I'm thinking about. You'd think in 40 years of drafting just plain luck would have given the Rangers someone offensively gifted. There's your curse.

When these trades happen, I don't want late first round draft picks, I want known prospects and players.

- oyaron


We did have two top ten picks in 1999, the worst damn draft of all time (I am not sure if I am exaggerating). Took Brendl at 4 after the Sedins went 2-3 and the rest of the draft, including our Lundmark pick, sucked.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:25 AM ET
Getz, Kesler and Perry

Parise too

- mdw7413

Closest player to messiers style of play, mainly leadership, since he came into the league or mess retired. I still get a gigantic bonah when I watch him play haha. Boy that was a huge miss by the scouts on that one😥
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 7 @ 11:26 AM ET

- mdw7413



That never gets old
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:26 AM ET
We did have two top ten picks in 1999, the worst damn draft of all time (I am not sure if I am exaggerating). Took Brendl at 4 after the Sedins went 2-3 and the rest of the draft, including our Lundmark pick, sucked.
- Pete V


Holy poop. Just looked at that 1st round. Literally no one except the Sedins is worth metioning
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Feb 7 @ 11:27 AM ET
like, if you try and look back at their thinking with this one

Lucien Deblois and Mike Bossy both played in the QMJHL

Deblois had 56 goals back to back years in his final two years of juniors

Bossy had 79 goals and 75 goals his last two years of juniors


so, in other words, what the (frank)?

- jimbo83



Why on earth would you go down that road??
Drafting 17 year olds is far from an exact science. And yes, you can point out mistakes, but there is not a single franchise that can claim they haven't passed on someone who turned into a star.
You make your choice based on what you have at the time and you take your lumps.
You guys are cooking up a recipe for heartache and anxiety.
Instead, why not discuss how we made every other team look like fools for NOT drafting Hank with any of the multiple picks they threw away on lesser players?
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:28 AM ET
Holy poop. Just looked at that 1st round. Literally no one except the Sedins is worth metioning
- mdw7413


Yeah, a couple more solid NHLers, but it's amazing how bad that first round was. Didn't look further down in the draft.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:28 AM ET
Why on earth would you go down that road??
Drafting 17 year olds is far from an exact science. And yes, you can point out mistakes, but there is not a single franchise that can claim they haven't passed on someone who turned into a star.
You make your choice based on what you have at the time and you take your lumps.
You guys are cooking up a recipe for heartache and anxiety.
Instead, why not discuss how we made every other team look like fools for NOT drafting Hank with any of the multiple picks they threw away on lesser players?

- Tonybere


I think any team that passed on Kreider is a fool right TPC?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 7 @ 11:28 AM ET
Closest player to messiers style of play, mainly leadership, since he came into the league or mess retired. I still get a gigantic bonah when I watch him play haha. Boy that was a huge miss by the scouts on that one😥
- Slimtj100


Yeah imagine this team with Getz or Perry.

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:28 AM ET
Why on earth would you go down that road??
Drafting 17 year olds is far from an exact science. And yes, you can point out mistakes, but there is not a single franchise that can claim they haven't passed on someone who turned into a star.
You make your choice based on what you have at the time and you take your lumps.
You guys are cooking up a recipe for heartache and anxiety.
Instead, why not discuss how we made every other team look like fools for NOT drafting Hank with any of the multiple picks they threw away on lesser players?

- Tonybere


Jeez, we are just having a conversation here.

You are not a wise man, not in the least bit.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Feb 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
Yeah imagine this team with Getz or Perry.
- mdw7413


6th in the Metro???
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
I think any team that passed on Kreider is a fool right TPC?
- jimbo83


Your boy Jess was throwing a hissy fit over the Rangers passing on Jordan Caron in that spot.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Feb 7 @ 11:30 AM ET
Jeez, we are just having a conversation here.

You are not a wise man, not in the least bit.

- Pete V



I disagree. I think I just dropped so much wisdom on your ass that you can't even fathom it!!
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 7 @ 11:32 AM ET
Your boy Jess was throwing a hissy fit over the Rangers passing on Jordan Caron in that spot.
- Pete V


these guys with their egos and thinking they know who to draft
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