You don’t understand these stats. And I’m not being an ass, but you don’t.

Last week, efficiency stats don’t hold water.

This week, raw 5 on 5 numbers are misleading.

Either you don’t get them or are stubborn. Probably a mix of A and B.

As far as Tavares vs. Chimera, it’s called an outlier. It’s possible for players to have good years and others to have bad ones. Doesn’t mean it repeats itself.

Ryan O’Reilly scores like a 3rd liner at 5 on 5. Period. He isn’t that good at offense
- sbroads24

There’s TONS of “outliers” though

When there’s that many inconsistencies,
the stat doesn’t accurately define the situation

You have to take into account so many other factors to get a true measure of playerA vs playerB

derek roy got ran of town


and he was more of a leader than ror
- homiedclown

Derek Roy's career imploded when the post lockout rule changes were reversed

look, if season ticket holders want to pay for it, and re-up at a 95% rate, it's up to them...no skin off my back...but I've seen plenty of complaining about ticket prices for a poor on-ice product
- Michael Pachla

this



and the team s moving backwards instead of forward since they got Jack

Carolina 2nd
Chicago 3rd
Calgary 4th
Edmonton 5th
Pittsburgh 6th

5 teams with best corsi numbers in top 6


they may all miss the playoffs


#shooting%matters
- homiedclown

Quality of shots too
Where are they coming from?
And how good is the player doing the shooting?

Derek Roy's career imploded when the post lockout rule changes were reversed
- jcragcrumple

I blame Leino

this

and the team s moving backwards instead of forward since they got Jack
- homiedclown

Regarding 'this', it's simple: don't go to games.

That said, not participating in revenue sharing would be moronic.

Ror is an easy target.
Highly paid
Losing team

He's not the problem. He'll end up with 25 and 30/ 35 assists or close. Same as always, give or take a few points.

Everyone female doges about playing with scrubs
Ror plays with the same guys
- Boss34

not good enough for $7.5m

There’s TONS of “outliers” though

When there’s that many inconsistencies,
the stat doesn’t accurately define the situation

You have to take into account so many other factors to get a true measure of playerA vs playerB
- jdfitz77

I think you’re under the assumption that I haven’t looked at them. I have. O’Reilly is not a very good offensive center. His reputation exceeds his actual numbers.

He’s a fine player. Nothing special.

He’s Tyler Bozak.

look, if season ticket holders want to pay for it, and re-up at a 95% rate, it's up to them...no skin off my back...but I've seen plenty of complaining about ticket prices for a poor on-ice product
- Michael Pachla

From people who keep buying tickets...and Mike Harrington...

okposo has one more goal than tim schaller this season


let that sink in for a minute

this



and the team s moving backwards instead of forward since they got Jack
- homiedclown

The oilers are worse since mcdavid signed an extension

Since cars were invented, fewer people die of dyptheria

Correlation doesn't equal causation. The team around him blowwwwws

nothin personal, boss-man...just pointing out that they've been raising ticket prices despite incredibly poor play from the team
- Michael Pachla

Nothing personal taken,


Problem is, when you turn in good seats, you will never get them back. Years of seniority.

Thats the fear. We all love hockey now, still after all these crappy years. Imagine if we were actually good.

It would be an all time kicker

okposo has one more goal than tim schaller this season


let that set in
- homiedclown

Weird since his most common line mate is the dynamic......

The oilers are worse since mcdavid signed an extension

Since cars were invented, fewer people die of dyptheria

Correlation doesn't equal causation. The team around him blowwwwws
- jcragcrumple

not a dig on jack

Derek Roy's career imploded when his quadriceps exploded.
- jcragcrumple

not a dig on jack
- homiedclown

My b. Everyone else is getting the roast treatment in here, I thought maybe it was Eichel's turn

derek roy got ran of town


and he was more of a leader than ror
- homiedclown

That's debatable.

I realize Roy is on team Canada now, but was he when he was relevant?

Thought he was the team party boy.

imagine how the 30 year olds feel


we were good , they got to watch decent hockey


and then once they could drink, the sabres suck worse and worse every year


#youneedtodrinktowatchthisteam

I think you’re under the assumption that I haven’t looked at them. I have. O’Reilly is not a very good offensive center. His reputation exceeds his actual numbers.

He’s a fine player. Nothing special.

He’s Tyler Bozak.
- sbroads24

You're picking a specific metric by which to compare.

Does Bozak lead the league in FO percent and have 2 pims on the year?

Clearly there's more to the story

My b. Everyone else is getting the roast treatment in here, I thought maybe it was Eichel's turn
- jcragcrumple

no, I am looking at it from a perspective of


Jack is now in year 3, about to hit the years of his best performance and we are worse in the standings in year 3 than year 1



and this is why people were doling onto season tickets for the last 5 years, to see a kid like this and the team in the playoffs

derek roy got ran of town


and he was more of a pants pisser and party hound than ror
- homiedclown

And I’m a Roy fan. Pissed me off when they got blown out and ruff was flipping his lid. Roysie was all like tell this geezer to stfu and let’s get the toga party started!

Even so... he was great for us.

imagine how the 30 year olds feel


we were good , they got to watch decent hockey


and then once they could drink, the sabres suck worse and worse every year


#youneedtodrinktowatchthisteam
- homiedclown

Joke's on you. I was drinking at 15.

Oh

You're picking a specific metric by which to compare.

Does Bozak lead the league in FO percent and have 2 pims on the year?

Clearly there's more to the story
- jcragcrumple

Bozak is a good FO guy career 53.5%
O’Reilly is career 54.9%

Seriously, this FO this so overblown.

I think you’re under the assumption that I haven’t looked at them. I have. O’Reilly is not a very good offensive center. His reputation exceeds his actual numbers.

He’s a fine player. Nothing special.

He’s Tyler Bozak.
- sbroads24

He’s also put in more defensive zone starts than just about anyone in the league

True or false?

That's debatable.

I realize Roy is on team Canada now, but was he when he was relevant?

Thought he was the team party boy.
- Boss34

once briere and drury left, roy was pretty much a ppg player for the next 4 years


busted his butt for months to rehab for a game 7


I think he got ran out of town as a sacrificial lamb