derek roy got ran of town


and he was more of a leader than ror
- homiedclown

no

Joke's on you. I was drinking at 15.

Oh
- jcragcrumple

I was drinking at the burt hotel in public at 15


your move

Bozak is a good FO guy career 53.5%
O’Reilly is career 54.9%

Seriously, this FO this so overblown.
- sbroads24

And then I point out what his FO percent is this year, you mention 5-on-5, I talk about zone starts.

Blah

He’s also put in more defensive zone starts than just about anyone in the league

True or false?
- jdfitz77

And? Are we good defensively or something? Is he doing something special I’m missing?

And then I point out what his FO percent is this year, you mention 5-on-5, I talk about zone starts.

Blah
- jcragcrumple

This year he’s winning 8% more. Like 1 more per game if they take the same amount

Hurray!

if you are sailing out of the cape, let me know


my dad is on a direct flight to orlando friday for the trip

I go norwegian, usually in early Feb


about 3 grand for everything for 2 people, upgrades across the board
- homiedclown

That include booze and excursions?

This year he’s winning 8% more. Like 1 more per game if they take the same amount

Hurray!
- sbroads24

Yeah

Well

Judging from Botterill's remarks, we'll be having this discussion well into the Biden presidency

And? Are we good defensively or something? Is he doing something special I’m missing?
- sbroads24

Isn't it more difficult to drive offense with the more defensive zone starts you get?

I'm asking seriously as I don't know.

Yeah

Well

Judging from Botterill's remarks, we'll be having this discussion well into the Biden presidency
- jcragcrumple

Which is fine because CM will take his job and he will be a really good 3rd center

Hokceybuzz logic: Defensive zone face-off starts means you have an excuse for not living up to your 7+ million dollar contract

We are paying 7.5 million for a faceoff specialist that puts up between 50-65 points a season, who's defensive play is suspect.

We could easily find a face-off specialist for a 1/3 of ROR's money and spend the rest on someone who can put up 20 goals per and another who can play solid defensive hockey form the forward position. That's 3 pieces we don't have at the moment and no, ROR is not all of them in 1-player.

Hokceybuzz logic: Defensive zone face-off starts means you have an excuse for not living up to your 7+ million dollar contract

We are paying 7.5 million for a faceoff specialist that puts up between 50-65 points a season, who's defensive play is suspect.

We could easily find a face-off specialist for a 1/3 of ROR's money and spend the rest on someone who can put up 20 goals per and another who can play solid defensive hockey form the forward position. That's 3 pieces we don't have at the moment and no, ROR is not all of them in 1-player.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Or keep paying him for 55-60 penalty-free FO-winning points, and with the 24 mil in cap space this year, bring in more good players

not good enough for $7.5m
- Michael Pachla

I look at it as 6 plus the extra %25 buffalo tax.

There is never a home town discount.
There is no state tax break
There is no discount for joining a winning team
There is no big city appeal
There is no golf courses are open year round

Where would you have ror at ? What's a fair rate?

Isn't it more difficult to drive offense with the more defensive zone starts you get?

I'm asking seriously as I don't know.
- kingcong39

He still gets a lot of O zone starts. A lot of PP time. On the ice down a goal (last night)

He’s 98th in O zone starts among forwards which is top end 2nd line.

19 among forwards in PP time

Or keep paying him for 55-60 penalty-free FO-winning points, and with the 24 mil in cap space this year, bring in more good players
- jcragcrumple

You can't rely on 1 player for all your face-offs and his Lady Byng caliber play is exactly why this team sucks. He's a soft player, just like the rest of the roster.

People blast Zemgus for how often he falls, well, ROR falls just as much and turns it over like a madman. I see at least 5 turnovers a game from ROR, that basically negates his face-off prowess.

Which is fine because CM will take his job and he will be a really good 3rd center
- sbroads24

I hope so. The Sabres would be in great shape

You can't rely on 1 player for all your face-offs and his Lady Byng caliber play is exactly why this team sucks. He's a soft player, just like the rest of the roster.

People blast Zemgus for how often he falls, well, ROR falls just as much and turns it over like a madman. I see at least 5 turnovers a game from ROR, that basically negates his face-off prowess.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Not a single thing there is true

Not a single thing there is true
- jcragcrumple

No, it absolutely is. Do you even watch the games?

You can't rely on 1 player for all your face-offs and his Lady Byng caliber play is exactly why this team sucks. He's a soft player, just like the rest of the roster.

People blast Zemgus for how often he falls, well, ROR falls just as much and turns it over like a madman. I see at least 5 turnovers a game from ROR, that basically negates his face-off prowess.
- BeadyEyedDouche

If Ryan O’Reilly were from Sweden he wouldn’t have near the reputation or pay check he does

No, it absolutely is. Do you even watch the games?
- BeadyEyedDouche

Yeah

That include booze and excursions?
- Wetbandit1

booze


upgraded room with extended balcony

3 high end meals

$50 credit for every shore excursion, we don't do them

$100 on board credit

7 hours internet

trip insurance

If you don't gamble, plan on spending $300 for the couple on shore for the 3 stops


but I bring my own snorkel equipment

Yeah
- jcragcrumple

I implore you to count how many times the (frank)er falls and turns it over from here on out. It's maddening.

If Ryan O’Reilly were from Sweden he wouldn’t have near the reputation or pay check he does
- sbroads24

If he were from Sweden, he would be Johan Larsson

This year he’s winning 8% more. Like 1 more per game if they take the same amount

Hurray!
- sbroads24

Patrice Bergeron makes less than ROR

Welcome back. Keeping it strictly to hockey, of course



I heard she's singing the national anthem next week or something
- jcragcrumple

Ok, I definitely don't feel bad that I just figured it out.

And? Are we good defensively or something? Is he doing something special I’m missing?
- sbroads24

Well it’s harder to score when u start in your own end... right?

Obviously our defensemen suck at moving the puck up the ice more than most, so that makes it even tougher when ROR is taking all these defensive zone faceoffs

I’d also wager that he expends a lot of energy in the def zone, and plays too many minutes in general (bc we have no one else we can rely on in that area)

So when he does get his offensive chances,
I think it’s safe to say his production is lower than it could be based on being so overplayed in the def zone

Now I’m not saying O’Reilly is Crosby
But you’re going too far with the hate
U look at some numbers that don’t tell the whole story & act as if they do

And all of these stats are impacted by the quality of the team he plays on

U say things like “we aren’t good at defense” and imply that it’s on ROR,
when we have suspect goaltending & crappy defense


It’s not as simple as just looking at 5v5 stats
There’s MUCH more to the story

Especially when u compare a player on a bad team vs one on a good team