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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
Without doing a ton of research its tough to come up with comparables on short notice. I just threw out a couple names from last year thats all. Fwiw arvidsson didnt do poop til last year if that makes a difference. Sams first two years were way better than his.
Spooner is a pretty good comp. he bet on himself and took a one year show-me deal at 2.825m. Like pach just said 3 years at 11m seems about right if sam keeps it up for the rest of the year.

- TheHank


If Sam plays the remainder of the year like he has the past few weeks, he'll only accept $3M on a one year deal IMO.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 10 @ 4:07 PM ET
How is Sam similar or even better then Arvidsson, who had a 30-30 season last year?
- kingcong39


Sam's 22 and has 116pts in 221 games
Victor is 24 and has 112 pts in 193 games

It's easy to make the case for Sam. I'm not saying it's true or not, but it's easy to see Sam's side of things.

Like I've said before, bridging him under 4m is job well done by JB.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
Pach, any word if 71 and 23 are still with Eichel?

I tried Harrington's Twitter but he's busy i-told-you-soing the tank
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
Sam and William Nylander are statistically very similar to Arvidsson. I'm sure they'll both make the case that they are better, but neither have arb rights. Will be interesting to watch, and see who blinks first.
- Lunaion

Nylander is better he already won
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 10 @ 4:10 PM ET
That's a cool list, thank you.

I'm thinking Alex galchenyuk is a reinhart comparable.

Similar stats this year , although irrelevant
12 goals 20 assists.

Sam 2nd over all 2014
Alex 3rd overall 2012

3 x 4.9 in arbitration

Did Alex have a bridge deal to get to this 3 year deal?


Great write up michael!
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
he's on a seven-year deal too...don't think sam's gonna get anything close to that this time round...

if they keep him under $4mm on a bridge deal that would be good...like somebody said, 3yr./$11mm might work just fine

- Michael Pachla


I agree:

2 x 6.5 million
3 at 11 million
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 10 @ 4:15 PM ET
Nylander is better he already won
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I don't disagree, but they are are statistically equivalent. If I'm Sam's agent, I want him to sign first, them I'm asking for that deal.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 10 @ 4:19 PM ET
he's on a seven-year deal too...don't think sam's gonna get anything close to that this time round...

if they keep him under $4mm on a bridge deal that would be good...like somebody said, 3yr./$11mm might work just fine

- Michael Pachla


I imagine it goes like this:

Sam asks for a crazy 7 year deal @5m
JB goes 3 for 11m
Sam asks 1 @ 4m, making him arb eligble after
They settle at 2 for 7.5m
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Feb 10 @ 4:26 PM ET
Somebody on this board needs to text Botterill and tell him to trade Kane - today.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 10 @ 4:27 PM ET
Pach, any word if 71 and 23 are still with Eichel?

I tried Harrington's Twitter but he's busy i-told-you-soing the tank

- jcragcrumple

yup...I believe...only change up front is Wilson in for an ill Girgensons

falk in for gorges on the third pair with Antipin

Johnson in net
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 10 @ 4:28 PM ET
That's a cool list, thank you.

I'm thinking Alex galchenyuk is a reinhart comparable.

Similar stats this year , although irrelevant
12 goals 20 assists.

Sam 2nd over all 2014
Alex 3rd overall 2012

3 x 4.9 in arbitration

Did Alex have a bridge deal to get to this 3 year deal?


Great write up michael!

- Boss34


I don’t think Sam is eligible for arbitration

Also,
I’m pretty sure the award can be given for either 1 or 2 years
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 10 @ 4:30 PM ET
Somebody on this board needs to text Botterill and tell him to trade Kane - today.
- SabreWest


I keep hearing he's going to get traded this week or maybe that's next week or the week after that
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 10 @ 4:32 PM ET
yup...I believe...only change up front is Wilson in for an ill Girgensons

falk in for gorges on the third pair with Antipin

Johnson in net

- Michael Pachla



Thank you sir
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Feb 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
Somebody on this board needs to text Botterill and tell him to trade Kane - today.
- SabreWest


Yeah. I expected something by now. I just hope he doesn't go GMTM trade deadline mode. 😲😲😲
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
Thank you sir
- jcragcrumple

anytime
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 10 @ 4:36 PM ET
I imagine it goes like this:

Sam asks for a crazy 7 year deal @5m
JB goes 3 for 11m
Sam asks 1 @ 4m, making him arb eligble after
They settle at 2 for 7.5m

- Lunaion

Is he not arb eligible this year? The rules for it are super confusing and i havent looked at them in a bit. If not, then he will almost definitely take the one yr deal whatever it may be. 3m sounds about right. Jbotts should do everything he can to keep it as low as possible to make him more attractive to a buyer wanting to keep his qualifying offer requirement less after next year.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 10 @ 4:38 PM ET
Is he not arb eligible this year? The rules for it are super confusing and i havent looked at them in a bit. If not, then he will almost definitely take the one yr deal whatever it may be. 3m sounds about right. Jbotts should do everything he can to keep it as low as possible to make him more attractive to a buyer wanting to keep his qualifying offer requirement less after next year.
- TheHank


He's not arb eligible until after next season. He signed at 18, so he needs 4 seasons.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
He's not arb eligible until after next season.
- Lunaion

You are correct. I just looked it up and its pretty cut and dry afterall. He needs 4 years before he can file. In light of that he really doesnt have any leverage.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 4:44 PM ET
You are correct. I just looked it up and its pretty cut and dry afterall. He needs 4 years before he can file. In light of that he really doesnt have any leverage.
- TheHank

He’s getting a one year or being traded IMO.

Either one is fine.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 10 @ 4:52 PM ET
He’s getting a one year or being traded IMO.

Either one is fine.

- sbroads24


Package him with kane for hanifin.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 10 @ 4:56 PM ET
I keep hearing he's going to get traded this week or maybe that's next week or the week after that
- GERBE!!!75PTS


"Something is going to happen soon"

Last 3 weeks
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 10 @ 4:57 PM ET
"Something is going to happen soon"

Last 3 weeks

- Boss34

y'all been in ek's thread or somethin'?
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 10 @ 5:06 PM ET
y'all been in ek's thread or somethin'?
- Michael Pachla

Today he mentioned the isles and sabres were talking and beer was involved.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Feb 10 @ 5:08 PM ET
y'all been in ek's thread or somethin'?
- Michael Pachla


LA wants Moulson, Bogo and Kane, keep up Pachla. Ek86
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 10 @ 5:10 PM ET
y'all been in ek's thread or somethin'?
- Michael Pachla


Pach, you know what these guys all have in common?

Foligno
Pomminville
Bailey
Moulson
Girgensons
Fasching
Okposo (2016)
William Carrier
Tyler Ennis
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