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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Life without Jack Eichel on the ice has begun. And it was pretty rough.
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 12 @ 4:57 PM ET
He’s tied for 210th in 5 on 5 points. With the all-star caliber Jason Pominville

He doesn’t score 5 on 5. And it’s a problem.

- sbroads24



Kadri plays with better talent. It's not even close.

Ror is probably the 2nd best sabre
Kadri is probably the 6th best ?

Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Riley
Marleau
Maybe a few more
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 4:57 PM ET
He'd get run at 15 times a game, are you kidding?
- Wetbandit1



They're also waiver eligible as they've played over 160 games per cap friendly.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
I didn’t make the point. Someone said there isn’t 5 2nd centers better.

That’s just not true.

- sbroads24



I think Ror is 35th in center scoring in the nhl.
Playing behind a #2 stud
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 12 @ 5:02 PM ET
I heard if you say 5-on-5 in the mirror 5 times, 5 times in a row, James Tanner and Cody Franson will appear
- jcragcrumple


Shows creativity and knowledge. Not mean, but pointed. Very well done.

A++
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:02 PM ET
I think Ror is 35th in center scoring in the nhl.
Playing behind a #2 stud

- Boss34

Yes, and is 12th in 5 on 5 ice time for centers.

15th among all forwards in total ice time this year.

He’s deployed as an elite player.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 12 @ 5:03 PM ET
He'd get run at 15 times a game, are you kidding?
- Wetbandit1


Of course they're kidding. He'd have to clear waivers.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 12 @ 5:05 PM ET
Yes, and is 12th in 5 on 5 ice time for centers.

15th among all forwards in total ice time this year.

He’s deployed as an elite player.

- sbroads24


Don't most of the centers you're comparing him to take a lot more O-Zone starts? Do they also play on significantly better teams with better linemates? I would offer that these three things would effect his offensive output, no?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 5:06 PM ET
Wouldn't be unhappy with Svech at all either. Wished he got more time at the WJC. Signing Antipin recently shouldn't hurt either. He should get a lot of usage for the remainder of the season. Hopefully he goes home and tells his friends.

Having a quality import prospect has to help and Eichel isn't a bad reason to sign either.

- RhinoFan


Now that Vegas Fd up with Shipachyov,
I doubt (his teammate) Gusev is ever gonna sign with them

Gusev is 24yrs old and has 1 point less than Kovalchuk in the KHL this year (22-40-62pts)

It’s worth trying to get his rights imo
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:06 PM ET
Kadri plays with better talent. It's not even close.

Ror is probably the 2nd best sabre
Kadri is probably the 6th best ?

Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Riley
Marleau
Maybe a few more

- Boss34

Kadri is probably their 3rd best forward behind Matthews/Nylander.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 12 @ 5:06 PM ET
He’s not suddenly terrible, he’s fine. He plays 6 less minutes a game than O’Reilly.

Ice time and opportunity matters

- sbroads24


When you want to say how bad ROR is, you refer him in a snark tone as “tied with all star caliber Jason Pomminville.” Then somebody explains that Pomminville was pretty good last year until he got to this squad, and suddenly snarky “all star caliber” becomes “just fine thanks”.

This is classic “switching horses midstream.”
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 12 @ 5:06 PM ET
The one she just gave me seems fair to everyone
- GERBE!!!75PTS


No, it's not, none of them are fair. Your brother offered me Matthews for Shea Weber.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:08 PM ET
#Sabres Prospects goals per game:

Olofsson .56 (SHL)
Glotov .51 (QMJHL)
Pu .42 (OHL)

All three should be in Rochester next season. Possibly the big club
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Feb 12 @ 5:08 PM ET
Yes, and is 12th in 5 on 5 ice time for centers.

15th among all forwards in total ice time this year.

He’s deployed as an elite player.

- sbroads24


Sabres have(had) two centers... who else should they deploy against teams' top lines? Reinhart? Girgensons?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 12 @ 5:08 PM ET
Yeah but if those two superstars have a Max total of 185 points for example and the other players have totals that add up to those players would that not equal fair trade
- GERBE!!!75PTS


You're only pulling this poop now that you're out of the playoffs, there's no defending the timing. If you were both in the thick of it this deal never happens.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 5:09 PM ET
Yes, and is 12th in 5 on 5 ice time for centers.

15th among all forwards in total ice time this year.

He’s deployed as an elite player.

- sbroads24



U act like that’s his fault
If we had more talent around him, he wouldn’t have to play so much

AGAIN...
are we somehow getting Point, Barzal, Kadri,etc?

Nope
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:10 PM ET
Don't most of the centers you're comparing him to take a lot more O-Zone starts? Do they also play on significantly better teams with better linemates? I would offer that these three things would effect his offensive output, no?
- RhinoFan

Some do, yes.

Has O’Reilly’s linemates been bad? Hasn’t he played with a combo of Kane, Okposo, Reinhart and Pominville?

Those aren’t grade A players, but it isn’t exactly Zach Dalpe or Matt D’Agostini
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 12 @ 5:11 PM ET



I dunno, this guys twitter is a wild ride. Hes a self help nut job




He really is tweeting a lot of about How To Coach the last few weeks....so maybe its shots the Housley

- DDM-Coga


That's... pretty suspect.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 12 @ 5:13 PM ET
Some do, yes.

Has O’Reilly’s linemates been bad? Hasn’t he played with a combo of Kane, Okposo, Reinhart and Pominville?

Those aren’t grade A players, but it isn’t exactly Zach Dalpe or Matt D’Agostini

- sbroads24



Wilson is. Okposo starting the season was lost. He needs faster wingers, no doubt. He's no speedster
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 5:13 PM ET
Some do, yes.

Has O’Reilly’s linemates been bad? Hasn’t he played with a combo of Kane, Okposo, Reinhart and Pominville?

Those aren’t grade A players, but it isn’t exactly Zach Dalpe or Matt D’Agostini

- sbroads24



None of them are Luke Adam......
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 5:14 PM ET
#Sabres Prospects goals per game:

Olofsson .56 (SHL)
Glotov .51 (QMJHL)
Pu .42 (OHL)

All three should be in Rochester next season. Possibly the big club

- MCGUIZZY


They’d have to play pretty awesome in Camp to make the Sabres
I think all of them (plus Asplund) start in Rochester next year
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 12 @ 5:14 PM ET
Shows creativity and knowledge. Not mean, but pointed. Very well done.

A++

- Der Kaiser

Oh come on. This drivel gets an A++? My work can't be topped and I think I got a B+ once. Maybe.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
Yes, and is 12th in 5 on 5 ice time for centers.

15th among all forwards in total ice time this year.

He’s deployed as an elite player.

- sbroads24



With pretty good numbers, surrounded by a team assembled to finish in the bottom on purpose.

His best weapons are:
Okposo who came back from a brain injury
Kane who doesn't pass and played mostly with eichel
Sam who flat out sucked for 45 games

The rest of the forwards have a total of less then 25 goals. 58 games in.

Ror played with talent in the world cup and was great .

He's a 6.5 million $ guy getting buffataxed to 7.5
True 2nd line center
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:16 PM ET
Wilson is. Okposo starting the season was lost. He needs faster wingers, no doubt. He's no speedster
- jcragcrumple

I don’t disagree.

But those guys, especially Kane, who he’s spent a lot of time with is a speedy, 2nd line winger.

I wish O’Reilly was 3 years younger. He’d fit our timeline better.

By the time we’re contending he’s going to be a broken down 30 year old.

They play him way too much
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Feb 12 @ 5:16 PM ET
They’d have to play pretty awesome in Camp to make the Sabres
I think all of them (plus Asplund) start in Rochester next year

- jdfitz77



I agree but also not ruling it out. Honestly think Pu may have best shot then Olofsson. Long shot tho

(didnt mean all 3 would make it)
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 5:19 PM ET
I agree but also not ruling it out. Honestly think Pu may have best shot then Olofsson. Long shot tho

(didnt mean all 3 would make it)

- MCGUIZZY


I’d be surprised if any of them made the roster

Heck,
I think Mittelstadt might not even

Botts seems like he wants guys to play in the AHL
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