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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 14 @ 1:03 PM ET
If he's deemed better than at least one of the current goalies that isn't a problem.
- Scoob

like I said yesterday. the 2nd year (19-20 season) could get tight for the Flyers depending on what happens with the salary cap. A marginal improvement in goal isnt worth that to me, nor do I want 3 goalies signed next season
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:03 PM ET
remind me again...how many games did Marty B. average a year over his career?
- juiced


57.5 games per season was his average. But if you take out his 1st year (4 games), his last year with STL (7 games), 1 half season lockout and 1 half season for injury his average jumps to 62.7 games per year.

From '98-'08 he averaged 74 starts per year
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
[quote=MBFlyerfan]From the Buffalo thread:




seems to be proof of why the Sabres are so poorly run. Fans and management both sxck
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
CHERRY HILL BOB RYAB FIST!
- johndewar

Wait I thought he was from Bemidji State
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
From the Buffalo thread:




Opinions?

- MBFlyerfan

LMAO!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
57.5 games per season was his average. But if you take out his 1st year (4 games), his last year with STL (7 games), 1 half season lockout and 1 half season for injury his average jumps to 62.7 games per year.

From '98-'08 he averaged 74 starts per year

- Crushers68

he must not have practiced much
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 14 @ 1:07 PM ET
[quote=MBFlyerfan]From the Buffalo thread:




seems to be proof of why the Sabres are so poorly run. Fans and management both sxck

- wcorvette



I thought maybe I was off base. Told him he either vastly over rates Eichel (whom I think is a great player) or vastly under rates Provorov. (whom I see as an all situations #1 defenseman who will be a perennial Norris candidate in a few years.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
From the Buffalo thread:




Opinions?

- MBFlyerfan


sskkoo1 doesn't know what he's talking about
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
LMAO!
- BiggE



It started off with a statement that to get ROR it would have to start with Provy and Konecny.

I said I wouldn't do Provy straight up for Eichel so what makes you think you could get that for ROR?

Then he responded with that statement.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
like I said yesterday. the 2nd year (19-20 season) could get tight for the Flyers depending on what happens with the salary cap. A marginal improvement in goal isnt worth that to me, nor do I want 3 goalies signed next season
- YuenglingJagr

If they are trading for a guy like Anderson, Elliott is probably going to Ottawa as part of the deal. They’ll roll with Anderson/Neuvirth this year and next and hopefully Anderson/Hart in 19-20. If they do that in 19-20, the combined cap hit with Hart in an ELC, should only be a few hundred K more than it is now.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 14 @ 1:10 PM ET
ttt
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Feb 14 @ 1:10 PM ET
From the Buffalo thread:




Opinions?

- MBFlyerfan



No Thanks.

Provy is non-starter.

A #1 D-man is much harder to find then a #1 Center.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 14 @ 1:10 PM ET
like I said yesterday. the 2nd year (19-20 season) could get tight for the Flyers depending on what happens with the salary cap. A marginal improvement in goal isnt worth that to me, nor do I want 3 goalies signed next season
- YuenglingJagr


Is Anderson more durable than Elliot or Neuvirth?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
It started off with a statement that to get ROR it would have to start with Provy and Konecny.

I said I wouldn't do Provy straight up for Eichel so what makes you think you could get that for ROR?

Then he responded with that statement.

- MBFlyerfan

If they think ROR = Provy & Konecny, the guys with the straight jackets need to pay them a visit.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
Some quick thoughts since I haven't posted in a while and I know you're all dying to hear from me

1. They probably outplayed the Devils last night, but deserved their fate with their horrendous D zone coverage all night.

2. Neuvirth needs to calm the (frank) down in net. He was all over the place

3. I hope the Elliot injury spurs the Flyers to reconsider their goalie usage. I believe this is the 4th straight season the starter has missed significant time. They need to be better at giving the starters proper rest. Fatigue is often the cause of injury and playing the starter so many games in row has likely contributed to these injury problems.

4. The Manning-Gudas pairing has been a mess lately. I'm sure people have complained enough about Sanheim being in LHV, but watching Manning when I know there is a better option is just painful.

5. I really hope the Flyers give their young guys an opportunity rather than trade for vets at the deadline. I truly believe there is some major upgrades available to them in the minors if they just get the chance.

6. Would really like to see the Flyers take a renewed approach to shootouts. It's such a stupid thing, but they can't keep giving away points every season.

- PhillySportsGuy


Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
It started off with a statement that to get ROR it would have to start with Provy and Konecny.

I said I wouldn't do Provy straight up for Eichel so what makes you think you could get that for ROR?

Then he responded with that statement.

- MBFlyerfan


Every fan base is naive at one point to their teams superstar. When Giroux was called the best player in the world by lavy half the fan base would not have traded him for Crosby letang and Malkin and 3 first rounders.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
like I said yesterday. the 2nd year (19-20 season) could get tight for the Flyers depending on what happens with the salary cap. A marginal improvement in goal isnt worth that to me, nor do I want 3 goalies signed next season
- YuenglingJagr


For some reason I thought he was a ufa and got 2 year contract didn't realize it was 2 additional years. Yeah I'm not to keen for that either. Back on the Chad Johnson wagon if mrazek is too expensive. Howard had a gem for the wings last night vs anaheim
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Feb 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
It started off with a statement that to get ROR it would have to start with Provy and Konecny.

I said I wouldn't do Provy straight up for Eichel so what makes you think you could get that for ROR?

Then he responded with that statement.

- MBFlyerfan

They balked at my hypothetical offer in here the other say of Rubstov and a 1st for ROR with salary retained. Apparently it will take 10x that.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 14 @ 1:18 PM ET
Every fan base is naive at one point to their teams superstar. When Giroux was called the best player in the world by lavy half the fan base would not have traded him for Crosby letang and Malkin and 3 first rounders.
- Tfaehner


At least at the time he was arguably a top 5 player.

ROR isn't even a top 30


five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 14 @ 1:18 PM ET
Since it seems like there's a lot of goalie talk today, I saw Bryz at Whole Foods this morning. Want me to ask him if he's in game shape?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 14 @ 1:19 PM ET
Is Anderson more durable than Elliot or Neuvirth?
- Scoob

Neuvirth for sure. Elliott has always been pretty durable






...up until he was forced to play so much
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
From the Buffalo thread:




Opinions?

- MBFlyerfan


I think the guy that had this opinion should stay out of his kid's weed stash.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
Since it seems like there's a lot of goalie talk today, I saw Bryz at Whole Foods this morning. Want me to ask him if he's in game shape?
- five4fighting10


Which one? The one at the Ellisburg Shopping Center?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 14 @ 1:21 PM ET
For some reason I thought he was a ufa and got 2 year contract didn't realize it was 2 additional years. Yeah I'm not to keen for that either. Back on the Chad Johnson wagon if mrazek is too expensive. Howard had a gem for the wings last night vs anaheim
- Tfaehner


Didn't Hextall name Johnson to be a goalie for Team Canada for one of the World Championship rosters he put together?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 14 @ 1:22 PM ET
No, it isn't. He's been very poor at the shootout for the past four seasons: 7 goals in 38 attempts for an 18.4% success rate. Over this timeframe, Voracek has been twice as good.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...,gte,1&sort=shootoutGoals

- Feanor


By those stats our shooters should be ...

Weal/Voracek/Simmonds with Patrick and Ghost on deck
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