Tattoo what is frustrating about Duclair is he is all about motion. There is always lots of motion but seldom is it effective motion that ends in something positive. It is like watching a whirlwind but the next thing you know the opposing team ends up with the puck. He would be more effective if he kept it simple - pass quickly, shoot when you are open, dump the puck safely. Stop needlessly carrying the puck. In fairness noticed he dumped puck in a few times when normally he would have tried to carry.
- Z3Hawk

If they decide that Duclair isnt a fit, does Stan try to flip him in a package to unload a contract? Would think they ride it out to see if #91 improves

Get the (frank) out with your negative bullpoop. Nobody wants you and those who spew hate on this board. You just outed yourself as a troll that probably cheers for a Hawks' rival. We need a Referee or Mod Justin this poop is getting ridiculous with the clowns coming here to degrade the conversation and attack others.
- EnzoD

This is just priceless coming from the guy who invited me out to Denver so you could try to beat me up....operative word is try

I disagree with you. Soshnikov, healthy or not, has not translated well to the NHL yet. He's one of those "potential" players. Could go either way. Not a big deal the Hawks didn't trade for him.

Remember, these are the same Blues that traded a 3rd round pick and a forward prospect to get Nail Yakupov.
- Hawks_49

Agreed. They may get one good season out of him like we did with Panik but, low risk/high reward move by them. They gave up a 4th in 2019.

If they decide that Duclair isnt a fit, does Stan try to flip him in a package to unload a contract? Would think they ride it out to see if #91 improves
- ikeane

I think Duclair has great potential. However he needs to be a professional - think about what he’s doing. He puts himself in peril by trying to do too much with the puck. Should have learned big lesson recently when he needlessly carried puck into offensive zone and turned over and puck quickly ended up Hawks’ net. On that play he should have just dumped in. Positives for him - can’t teach speed and can’t teach motor and he has both. Add some smarts, which will actually make his game easier and more direct for him and he could become really good. As I said, in last game chose some smart, practical dump-ins.

I think Duclair has great potential. However he needs to be a professional - think about what he’s doing. He puts himself in peril by trying to do too much with the puck. Should have learned big lesson recently when he needlessly carried puck into offensive zone and turned over and puck quickly ended up Hawks’ net. On that play he should have just dumped in. Positives for him - can’t teach speed and can’t teach motor and he has both. Add some smarts, which will actually make his game easier and more direct for him and he could become really good. As I said, in last game chose some smart, practical dump-ins.
- Z3Hawk

What was the capsule comment opinion of scouts who have watched him play since he came into the league - 'has speed and talent but lacks hockey sense'.

You have already seen it in Chicago with that failure to dump it in play that you mentioned. Last night a lazy OZ stick penalty and after that he didn't see much ice. And he isn't very physical along the walls and in the corners so if he isn't putting the puck in the net, setting up chances or going to the paint, he becomes a liability out there.

I'd send him to Rockford for awhile and get the staff there to work hard on his deficiencies. If he resists that approach, just don't bother qualifying him as an RFA. He'll find somebody else like Edmonton to sign him for $750K or on a PTO. He's running out of NHL chances.

If he were still here, Leddy would still be a bottom pair d-man that Q would not trust.....
- dahawks8819

You are correct sir.
Reference the list of some 40 odd (John Scott played a bunch of games on D but isn't on the list) players that have pulled on the Blackhawk sweater since 2010. I'd say Q's success here has more to do with Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson (and Oduya) at their very best.

And you can reference: Daley, Trevor as exhibit 1 and Johns, Stephen as exhibit 2 as just 2 of the guys that somehow Q would never trust. Seems others coaches do/have. That leaves an awful lot of misses on that list. It's an organizational thing IMO.

What was the capsule comment opinion of scouts who have watched him play since he came into the league - 'has speed and talent but lacks hockey sense'.

You have already seen it in Chicago with that failure to dump it in play that you mentioned. Last night a lazy OZ stick penalty and after that he didn't see much ice. And he isn't very physical along the walls and in the corners so if he isn't putting the puck in the net, setting up chances or going to the paint, he becomes a liability out there.

I'd send him to Rockford for awhile and get the staff there to work hard on his deficiencies. If he resists that approach, just don't bother qualifying him as an RFA. He'll find somebody else like Edmonton to sign him for $750K or on a PTO. He's running out of NHL chances.
- RickJ

He’s only 22 with “only” 219 professional games on his resume, spread over 4 seasons.

I’m one who thought AdB should have spent some time in Rockford learning the pro game right out of juniors - he still has lots to learn, but with 21 goals, I’m hearing a lot of sarcastic comments about that original opinion. Not sure it whas wrong.

Duclair IS a young player who should have spent his 19th year on this Earth - maybe his 20th - in the “A” working on those deficiencies - which dramatically exist. With his speed, hands, other attributes - what kind of player would he be now if he had been learning at a lower hockey level for a year or two?

Now - too much talent there - and too young and inexperienced - to give up on. Don’t know if he has to go thru waivers, but a stint in Rockford -even if a couple of years too late - would be good for him, I think.

How many young players are being ruined because cap considerations may be being the deciding factor in bringing an 18 year into the Show instead of letting them learn and develop in the minors for a while?

Oh you mean like when posters from here used to go on the Nashville thread and call names and talk sh1t because the Blackhawks were a better team and that somehow equated to hawks fans being smarter and more knowledgeable about hockey than everyone in the world? I love it when Vopatsrash comes here and gets you b1t ches all riled up.
- GPHawksfan

And we just figured out who you are. Seriously do you have ANYTHING better to do with your time?

Yawn...
- TrueGrit

Agreed

I doubt you hurt his feelings because I doubt anyone on this board gives a sh1t about what you say. Most people come here to discuss hockey, not to insult the other posters or troll. You, Goalie-33 and Vopatsrash are different. You don't come on here to add to the discussion, you come to rile people up for no reason whatsoever.
- tvetter

It's quite obvious they're clearly the same person!!

You are correct sir.
Reference the list of some 40 odd (John Scott played a bunch of games on D but isn't on the list) players that have pulled on the Blackhawk sweater since 2010. I'd say Q's success here has more to do with Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson (and Oduya) at their very best.

And you can reference: Daley, Trevor as exhibit 1 and Johns, Stephen as exhibit 2 as just 2 of the guys that somehow Q would never trust. Seems others coaches do/have. That leaves an awful lot of misses on that list. It's an organizational thing IMO.
- savvyone-1

So are the 3 Cups in 6 seasons (now 9). This is a franchise that won exactly 3 Cups from its inception in 1926 until 2010 ended a sporty 49 year drought. Apparently the current batch of morons behind the bench and in the front office were doing something right. It sucks that the Cup window appears to be closed and the core has aged out, but things haven't been all that bad around here. Nothing lasts forever...

So are the 3 Cups in 6 seasons (now 9). This is a franchise that won exactly 3 Cups from its inception in 1926 until 2010 ended a sporty 49 year drought. Apparently the current batch of morons behind the bench and in the front office were doing something right. It sucks that the Cup window appears to be closed and the core has aged out, but things haven't been all that bad around here. Nothing lasts forever...
- Davewn

Not taking anything away from Q and his resume, but he inherited a stud team with guys in their prime. That was then, this is now. This team is in a major rebuild. With the overhaul of the roster, I am in the camp that maybe its time to find a new HC to go with this rebuild. There is just too much wrong with this team and how it has been handled by Q.

Stan has more then his share of fault in the current state of this team, but there is zero motivation/consistency on the ice. With the influx of young guys and the Q yo-yo line system, there has been zero chance for any flow or line chemistry. Q has been that way forever. Yes every HC adjusts lines, but Q is rediculous with this and prolly a major reason for the team collapse. Its just my opinion, but I really think this team needs a fresh start behind the bench.

Not taking anything away from Q and his resume, but he inherited a stud team with guys in their prime. That was then, this is now. This team is in a major rebuild. With the overhaul of the roster, I am in the camp that maybe its time to find a new HC to go with this rebuild. There is just too much wrong with this team and how it has been handled by Q.

Stan has more then his share of fault in the current state of this team, but there is zero motivation/consistency on the ice. With the influx of young guys and the Q yo-yo line system, there has been zero chance for any flow or line chemistry. Q has been that way forever. Yes every HC adjusts lines, but Q is rediculous with this and prolly a major reason for the team collapse. Its just my opinion, but I really think this team needs a fresh start behind the bench.
- z1990z

People keep saying Bowman and Q inherited a stud team. How many cups did Niemi win? How many all star games and cups did these "studs" appear in after they left the Hawks. Go back and look at the rosters of 2010, 2013, 2015. If they were such studs what happened to them after the left the Hawks. If you are not going to give coaches and GM's any credit when they win how can you assign them all of the blame when they lose. There needs to be some balance.

And we just figured out who you are. Seriously do you have ANYTHING better to do with your time?
- tyweb69

Well this Douchnozzle is over on the Preds site asking Rash to come over and give us a dose of reality. He finds his garbage that he spews here funny. The reality for everyone here on this site is we are well aware that this Team is Hot Garbage at the moment and changes should be in order from top on down. Funny thing is that it has been well documented here so I have no idea where he's going with this...

Well this Douchnozzle is over on the Preds site asking Rash to come over and give us a dose of reality. He finds his garbage that he spews here funny. The reality for everyone here on this site is we are well aware that this Team is Hot Garbage at the moment and changes should be in order from top on down. Funny thing is that it has been well documented here so I have no idea where he's going with this...
- BGKarras

Don't let him kid you, it's the same person. I'm willing to bet all the money he has which considering he lives in mommy's basement can't be much.

I too am a Kempny fan. I would like to see the Hawks re-sign him.

I would also like to see them get a top pairing stay at home right defender to play with Keith.

???? - Keith
Rutta - Kempny
Seabs - Forsling
Murphy - Oesterle

If Crawford is healthy and on top of his game this is not bad.

The forwards next year could look about the same.
Saad - Toews - Sikura
Schmaltz - AA - Kane
Debrincat - Kampf - Duclair
Hartman - Wingels - Hayden
Sharp - Jurco

He’s only 22 with “only” 219 professional games on his resume, spread over 4 seasons.

I’m one who thought AdB should have spent some time in Rockford learning the pro game right out of juniors - he still has lots to learn, but with 21 goals, I’m hearing a lot of sarcastic comments about that original opinion. Not sure it whas wrong.

Duclair IS a young player who should have spent his 19th year on this Earth - maybe his 20th - in the “A” working on those deficiencies - which dramatically exist. With his speed, hands, other attributes - what kind of player would he be now if he had been learning at a lower hockey level for a year or two?

Now - too much talent there - and too young and inexperienced - to give up on. Don’t know if he has to go thru waivers, but a stint in Rockford -even if a couple of years too late - would be good for him, I think.

How many young players are being ruined because cap considerations may be being the deciding factor in bringing an 18 year into the Show instead of letting them learn and develop in the minors for a while?
- StLBravesFan

Plenty of them get ruined. Bad teams draft and put young kids on their roster before they are ready because they are desperate to win. Look no further than Edmonton. Agents stick their noses in because they want their client making $1M plus in the NHL not $75K in the AHL. Then the kids start feeling entitled.

But if you want examples of patience and development from the current era, take a look at 3 random guys - Mark Stone, Tyler Johnson, Ondrej Palat. All of them played about 100 games in the minors. Even Eric Staal played a full season down there.

Meanwhile Anthony Duclair spent 16 whole games in Tucson after being sent down from the absolute worst team in the NHL and while down there scored 1 goal and posted a +/- of -11. That is his complete minor league resume, but he's being declared a real talent in Chicago by the Hawk observers. Classic example of Stan Bowman the talent evaluator in action. Now what are you going to do with the kid to develop him Stanley?

i think the whole league has turned into a bunch of pusses. Get hit hard but legal, off come the gloves. NFL players hit the crap out of each other every play, and you rarely see fights. Suck it up boys, it's part of the game. If you're afraid to take a LEGAL check at that level, don't even play the game. Really sick of seeing that crap after a good,clean, solid check.
- BobP.

AGREE.

People keep saying Bowman and Q inherited a stud team. How many cups did Niemi win? How many all star games and cups did these "studs" appear in after they left the Hawks. Go back and look at the rosters of 2010, 2013, 2015. If they were such studs what happened to them after the left the Hawks. If you are not going to give coaches and GM's any credit when they win how can you assign them all of the blame when they lose. There needs to be some balance.
- -Doh-

Some of it (blame) falls on each: GM, coach, players, but as far giving any credit?

Good luck with that. While it's a team game you should be aware by now, only the Core and Dale had a hand in any of the three Cups...let the tired narrative continue.

I too am a Kempny fan. I would like to see the Hawks re-sign him.

I would also like to see them get a top pairing stay at home right defender to play with Keith.

???? - Keith
Rutta - Kempny
Seabs - Forsling
Murphy - Oesterle

If Crawford is healthy and on top of his game this is not bad.

The forwards next year could look about the same.
Saad - Toews - Sikura
Schmaltz - AA - Kane
Debrincat - Kampf - Duclair
Hartman - Wingels - Hayden
Sharp - Jurco
- -Doh-

If the Hawks look the same next year, they are going to be in big trouble. I think this year will be good for the organization in the long haul. As frustrating as these games have been, they have been perfect "tank wins". This group has a LOT of promise. They need to bring in a few bodies to put it all together. They have been in all of these games (outside of the Phoenix stinker), but just can't finish. To me that tells me aside from their "core" not producing, they also need help.

A top 4 defenseman would be ideal for next year. I really think less options though is better for Quennville. Let players play and settle in.

Sure looked like he was pouting tonight.
- EnzoD

I thought the same thing. Guy so far is useless. It's hard to believe these kids don't understand the opportunity they have. I'd punch the poop out of the peanut vendor to get noticed if that's waht it took.

I thought the same thing. Guy so far is useless. It's hard to believe these kids don't understand the opportunity they have. I'd punch the poop out of the peanut vendor to get noticed if that's waht it took.
- 6628

66, what did the poor peanut vendor do to deserve that?

*NEW* blog up: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=91042

Just did a bit of back reading.

Sounds like you guys had an interesting night last night haha.

Not trying to stir poop up, but the preds troll does have it pretty easy when they come over here. Doesn't matter what they say, everyone gets fired up and lashes out. It has become kind of comical.

He’s only 22 with “only” 219 professional games on his resume, spread over 4 seasons.

I’m one who thought AdB should have spent some time in Rockford learning the pro game right out of juniors - he still has lots to learn, but with 21 goals, I’m hearing a lot of sarcastic comments about that original opinion. Not sure it whas wrong.

Duclair IS a young player who should have spent his 19th year on this Earth - maybe his 20th - in the “A” working on those deficiencies - which dramatically exist. With his speed, hands, other attributes - what kind of player would he be now if he had been learning at a lower hockey level for a year or two?

Now - too much talent there - and too young and inexperienced - to give up on. Don’t know if he has to go thru waivers, but a stint in Rockford -even if a couple of years too late - would be good for him, I think.

How many young players are being ruined because cap considerations may be being the deciding factor in bringing an 18 year into the Show instead of letting them learn and develop in the minors for a while?
- StLBravesFan

Well said.