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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
lol

Look, usage is a contributing factor. There could be other contributing factors. Anyone who says that it's not possible that there could be factors other than usage is just flat out wrong.

- Scoob


What he ate for dinner could be a cause
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 15 @ 1:38 PM ET
lol

Look, usage is a contributing factor. There could be other contributing factors. Anyone who says that it's not possible that there could be factors other than usage is just flat out wrong.

- Scoob


very logical. I agree.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 15 @ 1:39 PM ET
For one who says he doesn't care anymore, you certainly keep bringing it up.



- VladDrag



Comon man, that was pretty damned funny....
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 15 @ 1:44 PM ET
very logical. I agree.
- VladDrag


:-)
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 15 @ 1:45 PM ET
oh wow
https://twitter.com/daveg...status/964205329851604992
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 15 @ 1:47 PM ET
I get it -- it was a poop joke.
- VladDrag

no I'm legitimately terrified
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 15 @ 1:48 PM ET
oh wow
https://twitter.com/daveg...status/964205329851604992

- YuenglingJagr


small world
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 15 @ 1:49 PM ET
small world
- Scoob



What's that? Can't see twitter right now
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 15 @ 1:50 PM ET
What's that? Can't see twitter right now
- J35Bacher


Ghost went to the high school in Florida where the shooting took place.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 15 @ 1:53 PM ET
Ghost went to the high school in Florida where the shooting took place.
- VladDrag


"I haven’t really processed it yet. I still can’t believe it. I was just in that school. I was only in that school for two years, but I felt safe at that school every day I was there.” - Ghost
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 15 @ 1:54 PM ET
no I'm legitimately terrified
- Mordecai


You mean turdified? Sorry that made me laugh out loud to myself. Too many fart and Richard jokes today.

But seriously -- I guess I didn't get it then.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 15 @ 1:55 PM ET
Hadn't even thought about Kari, to be honest. Not sure the Stars would want to put all their eggs in the basket of Bishop being healthy and on top of his game for the duration of the stretch and playoffs. There have been a few times Hitch has given Lehtonen more than a spot start here and there although its' about a 2-to-1 ratio in terms of starts and more than that the last few months.

But Lehtonen won't be back with the Stars next season (after a long run in Dallas) and I suppose it is possible that he could be moved. Thing is, the Stars' pre-deadline outlook is to possibly add a piece for the stretch and playoffs, not sell a piece for a draft pick or prospect.

That's a long-winded way of saying I don't think there's a fit.

- bmeltzer


Detroit seems like a better trade target since they are realistically already out of the playoffs.

An Elliott for Howard swap would get the Flyers a healthy starter, and give the Redwings some cap relief this year and next.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
You mean turdified? Sorry that made me laugh out loud to myself. Too many fart and Richard jokes today.

But seriously -- I guess I didn't get it then.

- VladDrag

I'm so offended, Vlad.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 15 @ 2:05 PM ET
I'm so offended, Vlad.
- Mordecai

I know him as Mr. Drag
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 15 @ 2:05 PM ET
I'm so offended, Vlad.
- Mordecai


I'm offended for you
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 15 @ 2:07 PM ET
Detroit seems like a better trade target since they are realistically already out of the playoffs.

An Elliott for Howard swap would get the Flyers a healthy starter, and give the Redwings some cap relief this year and next.

- Feanor



With Ottawa clearing money I wonder if Ottawa works. You could do something where you get Anderson and Oduya.

To Philly: Oduya, Anderson

To Ottawa: Neuvirth, Filppula, 4th rounder



This gives Ottawa cap and salary savings moving forward. Neuvirth is cheaper then Anderson and Filppula comes off the books after this year.

In Oduya you get a depth defensman with playoff experience where maybe Manning moves to your number 7. Anderson has some term left on his deal so next year you still can have a platoon of Elliott and Anderson with Hart in Lehigh. In 19-20 Elliott is gone and then you can split starts with Anderson and Hart.

I think it make sense.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 15 @ 2:08 PM ET
When it comes to Hak as a coach, three things stand out to me:

a) -28 in the 1st period
a) 27th best PK
b) 25th in goals scored at 5 on 5

It's hard to envision playoff success for a team that starts games poorly more often than not, has a terrible PK, and struggles to score goals during the most common phase of play.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
With Ottawa clearing money I wonder if Ottawa works. You could do something where you get Anderson and Oduya.

To Philly: Oduya, Anderson

To Ottawa: Neuvirth, Filppula, 4th rounder



This gives Ottawa cap and salary savings moving forward. Neuvirth is cheaper then Anderson and Filppula comes off the books after this year.

In Oduya you get a depth defensman with playoff experience where maybe Manning moves to your number 7. Anderson has some term left on his deal so next year you still can have a platoon of Elliott and Anderson with Hart in Lehigh. In 19-20 Elliott is gone and then you can split starts with Anderson and Hart.

I think it make sense.

- J35Bacher


I don't think it makes sense to have Anderson and Lyon as the goalies for the next six weeks.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:13 PM ET
I'm offended for you
- Streit2ThePoint


I'm sorry I've offended so many.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 15 @ 2:14 PM ET
I don't think it makes sense to have Anderson and Lyon as the goalies for the next six weeks.
- Feanor


Not advocating for the trade necessarily or suggesting it will happen but, theoretically, they could also go Anderson with Tokarski, then Elliott-Anderson in POs.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 15 @ 2:15 PM ET
I'm sorry I've offended so many.
- VladDrag

you need to relax
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
When it comes to Hak as a coach, three things stand out to me:

a) -28 in the 1st period
a) 27th best PK
b) 25th in goals scored at 5 on 5

It's hard to envision playoff success for a team that starts games poorly more often that, has a terrible PK, and struggles to score goals during the most common phase of play.

- Feanor


Honest question, how much do you put that on Hak? I do think the PK is a coaching staff issue, but the goal differential and 5 on 5 scoring is at least partly personnel.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 15 @ 2:17 PM ET
you need to relax
- Mordecai


Sell me some weed.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 15 @ 2:17 PM ET
Not advocating for the trade necessarily or suggesting it will happen but, theoretically, they could also go Anderson with Tokarski, then Elliott-Anderson in POs.
- bmeltzer



I don't think there is really any great solution for the goalie. In what I suggest I like also getting a depth defenseman with playoff experience. Also you don't need to give away too much.

Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
Sell me some weed.
- VladDrag

i am a hedonist not a drug dealer
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