EDIT: Seriously wtf was that ROR....take a shot at the empty net and end the (frank)in thing.
- feetontheair22

He was trying to do "the right thing" it just backfired.

Then he was out of position too

Almost time for black panther
- GERBE!!!75PTS

You left me on read

He was trying to do "the right thing" it just backfired.

Then he was out of position too
- Boss34

Lehners lateral quickness is elite!!

Almost time for black panther
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Looks crap

Looks crap
- Matthews_Auston

Hey! How's it going?

Lehners lateral quickness is elite!!
- turbo044

I stopped talking about him a little while ago because its so obvious it doesnt need mentioning.
See: the snow angel he made there in ot.

I usually get pissed when the puck get iced five times in row on an empty net. Is what it is, theres almost always a better play that can be made on every play.
- TheHank

Very true, however, I'd still take breaking the play up to risking exactly what happened.

Giant goal fr the sabres right there! Thanks evander.
- TheHank

Hank- could you break down the goaltending for the sabres on the last 2 goals. In case anyone thinks lehner isn't part of the problem.



Thank you in advance

Very true, however, I'd still take breaking the play up to risking exactly what happened.
- Wetbandit1

He could have played it better.

Looks crap
- Matthews_Auston

I stopped talking about him a little while ago because its so obvious it doesnt need mentioning.
See: the snow angel he made there in ot.
- TheHank

I hadn't seen this post yet, when I asked for some goaltending feed back😀

Hank- could you break down the goaltending for the sabres on the last 2 goals. In case anyone thinks lehner isn't part of the problem.



Thank you in advance
- Boss34

There's not a goalie in the league that's making that save in OT with any sort of regularity.

Hank- could you break down the goaltending for the sabres on the last 2 goals. In case anyone thinks lehner isn't part of the problem.



Thank you in advance
- Boss34

>I think.

You left me on read
- chilliard77

oh man I’m sorry bro was working out

There's not a goalie in the league that's making that save in OT with any sort of regularity.
- Wetbandit1

You can move fundamentally correctly laterally with your chest up facing the puck and still not make that save most of the time too. One way is correct and good, the other way sucks.

>I think.
- TheHank

2 crossice passes in the last 2 goals and lehners diving to get in position. Doesn't he anticipate! It's not like karlsson is taking a 50 ft wristshot there. Though a 50 ft wristshot beat him last ot.

2 crossice passes in the last 2 goals and lehners diving to get in position. Doesn't he anticipate! It's not like karlsson is taking a 50 ft wristshot there. Though a 50 ft wristshot beat him last ot.
- turbo044

oh man I’m sorry bro was working out
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Snap me

2 crossice passes in the last 2 goals and lehners diving to get in position. Doesn't he anticipate! It's not like karlsson is taking a 50 ft wristshot there. Though a 50 ft wristshot beat him last ot.
- turbo044

I thought there was a lack of mechanics as well.

Just watched the goals again, not the easiest saves, but anticipating would have helped.

Pretty theatrical

I understand what you are saying but this is bull-crap.

If someone takes the puck away from me, I likewise, gave it away.
- BeadyEyedDouche

It's like forced errors vs. unforced errors in tennis. One is a good play by the other player, the other is a mistake

You can move fundamentally correctly laterally with your chest up facing the puck and still not make that save most of the time too. One way is correct and good, the other way sucks.
- TheHank

👍👍👍👏

Arizona is up 3-0 thru two on montreal right now.

The sabres are only 6pts back of montreal though. 5 behind edmonton.

It's like forced errors vs. unforced errors in tennis. One is a good play by the other player, the other is a mistake
- jcragcrumple

Tennis is decidedly not hockey.

If a QB throws a ball in football, and it's intercepted, it's an interception. There is no "WR giveaway" if it bounced of the receiver's hands or got deflected by someone. It's not always the QB's fault but it's 100% an interception because guess what? The ball was turned over.

Likewise, if someone takes the puck from me in hockey, it may not have been my fault (let's say the puck hit a divot or rolled up on me, I received a bad pass, etc...), but I still let someone take the puck away from me.

Tennis is decidedly not hockey.

If a QB throws a ball in football, and it's intercepted, it's an interception. There is no "WR giveaway" if it bounced of the receiver's hands or got deflected by someone. It's not always the QB's fault but it's 100% an interception because guess what? The ball was turned over.

Likewise, if someone takes the puck from me in hockey, it may not have been my fault (let's say the puck hit a divot or rolled up on me, I received a bad pass, etc...), but I still let someone take the puck away from me.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I think it would be more akin to a strip sack or a forced fumble. But like you said, parallels between sports are tricky.

I think it would be more akin to a strip sack or a forced fumble. But like you said, parallels between sports are tricky.
- jcragcrumple

But on the stat sheet, those plays still register as turnovers if the ball is turned over in the process.

If I take the puck away from someone, that player was doing something to have allowed that takeaway. I see no instance where the stripped player shouldn't also be hit with a giveaway.

It's not like I'm walking down the street with a 10$ bill and someone grabs it from me and he "took it away". That's theft. Or if I leave my bike unlocked outside of a store and it gets stolen. It was dumb, yeah, but I didn't give it away.

But in a team sport? How can I NOT have given the puck away if someone took it from the blade of my stick or stole possession from me? It's like, if I unintentionally block a shot, it's still a shot block, right? Or a goalie doesn't see a puck but still saves it, it's still a save, right? It's just kind of absurd.