Doesn't look like anything is happening with CBJ. I do like Jenner though.
As much as people want AA gone, I also wouldn't be shocked if he played out his contract here (if the salary cap cooperates).
The Hawks are weak at C and even if they did add another at the deadline or in the off-season.... both AA and Schmaltz could become C/W players to give them options. That'd give them Toews-AA/Scmaltz-new guy-Kampf.
If it were me, unless I could get a top 4 D or a young 200-foot Centre in return, I wouldn't move AA. - Justin Lowe
Yes, agree. An experienced center who can play in all zones and be tough to play against plus defensemen preferably one with top-4 talent and maybe another who can play solid 3rd pair minutes.
A trade with the Jackets swapping Anisimov for Jenner (and whatever other assets on either said) would be worth exploring. Same with Anisimov for Ceci if trading with the Senators, but then you lose center depth and need to replenish another way. If Ceci is indeed a trade target, then ship any combination of a blueliner (i.e. Kempny), winger, prospects, and/or draft picks instead.
Doesn't look like anything is happening with CBJ. I do like Jenner though.
As much as people want AA gone, I also wouldn't be shocked if he played out his contract here (if the salary cap cooperates).
The Hawks are weak at C and even if they did add another at the deadline or in the off-season.... both AA and Schmaltz could become C/W players to give them options. That'd give them Toews-AA/Scmaltz-new guy-Kampf.
If it were me, unless I could get a top 4 D or a young 200-foot Centre in return, I wouldn't move AA. - Justin Lowe
Decent centers are hard to come by so it is never a good idea to trade them if you really do not need to. AA's salary is okay for what he offers.
If he was a pending UFA then, yes, by all means get what you can for him because you are not seeing any playoff games anyway.
Yes, agree. An experienced center who can play in all zones and be tough to play against plus defensemen preferably one with top-4 talent and maybe another who can play solid 3rd pair minutes.
A trade with the Jackets swapping Anisimov for Jenner (and whatever other assets on either said) would be worth exploring. Same with Anisimov for Ceci if trading with the Senators, but then you lose center depth and need to replenish another way. If Ceci is indeed a trade target, then ship any combination of a blueliner (i.e. Kempny), winger, prospects, and/or draft picks instead. - AEL_Fox
AELfox last posted a couple of trade options playing arm chair gm waiting for the game to start plus myself a couple of friends been throwing some trades around to better the hawks:
first one was AA and forsling kero for ceci and pague or smith
second one was Murphy and Hartman or hino or duclair for brady skei and a 4th in 2018
Yes, agree. An experienced center who can play in all zones and be tough to play against plus defensemen preferably one with top-4 talent and maybe another who can play solid 3rd pair minutes.
A trade with the Jackets swapping Anisimov for Jenner (and whatever other assets on either said) would be worth exploring. Same with Anisimov for Ceci if trading with the Senators, but then you lose center depth and need to replenish another way. If Ceci is indeed a trade target, then ship any combination of a blueliner (i.e. Kempny), winger, prospects, and/or draft picks instead. - AEL_Fox
Would AA, Kempny, and Murphy pry Ceci and say Dzingel?
Decent centers are hard to come by so it is never a good idea to trade them if you really do not need to. AA's salary is okay for what he offers.
If he was a pending UFA then, yes, by all means get what you can for him because you are not seeing any playoff games anyway. - 67hawks
AA should be traded immediately while he still has value. You do not need him for “Centre Depth”. When he is injured he is not missed. Arguably the Hawks become a better as team speed increases. Part of the problem is Q who plays him too high up the line-up. He is not effective 5 on 5 and actually drags down Kane. Put him as the 3rd or 4th line Centre and leave him there and I’ll deal with the contract. Otherwise move him. Under no circumstances continue to pretend he is a top 6 forward.
vdm, what does "chanting basketball" mean or entail...never heard that term...
jb - bogiedoc
Yes there is a technically a statistical racial connotation to chanting “basketball” - for as shocking as it might seem there are lots of talented black men who play basketball very well in the NBA. Obviously, the chanters were saying you are such a poor hockey player that you should’ve chosen “basketball”. When Canadian Steve Nash was in the NBA would it have been considered grossly rascist if people had chanted “hockey” at him? I don’t think so. Should these people have chanted anything? No they shouldn’t have but I must admit I was happy they weren’t saying other words.
AELfox last posted a couple of trade options playing arm chair gm waiting for the game to start plus myself a couple of friends been throwing some trades around to better the hawks:
first one was AA and forsling kero for ceci and pague or smith
second one was Murphy and Hartman or hino or duclair for brady skei and a 4th in 2018
Just couple of friends and I just spitballing - Scott1977
IMHO:
Anisimov + Forsling + Kero for Ceci + Pageau/Smith is an overpay if it's Forsling. Maybe swap him out for Kempny and/or Rutta.
Murphy + Hartman/Hinostroza/Duclair for Skjei + 2018 4th quite possibly if it's Duclair. But if it's Hartman or Hinostroza, the Rangers need to improve or add to their offer.
Would AA, Kempny, and Murphy pry Ceci and say Dzingel? - ikeane
I'd consider it but not sure if I'd want to part with Murphy since I feel that the Hawks defense next year starts with Keith, Seabrook, Forsling, and Murphy. That leaves an LD and RD to round out the starting 6.
Kempny is as good as gone in my opinion given how much he's been jerked around the past two years. I wouldn't re-sign if I were him. So if Kempny is gone and Murphy+ gets traded for Ceci+, then that would mean Ceci swaps in for Murphy which still means 2 more d-men are needed in a trade or free agency. Not a bad switch, I suppose but call me greedy since I'd prefer if we could add Ceci (or someone like him) in addition to keeping Murphy.
However, if Bowman has plans to fill those LD and RD blueline roles with guys who aren't carbon copies of Oesterle, Gustafsson, and Dahlstrom (i.e. puck movers who are mediocre at defense), then I say go ahead and do the trade.
I wouldn't mind one of Oesterle, Gustafsson, or Dahlstrom in the starting 6 but ideally would like them playing 3rd pair minutes. If a 2nd one of that trio makes the team next year, it better be as a 7th.
devante is black, a significant # of black athletes play basketball. Hence the assumption I make is "you're black, you s/b playing basketball, what are you doing playing hockey?" Or something much meaner along those lines.
Good for the Blackhawks organization. There is no place for that crap in this world. It shouldn't matter what color a person's skin is or what nation he hails from, in this country (and in the world) he/she should have a right to pursue whatever work or pasttime pursuits presuming in the case of an NHL player, they have the requisite skills to do so.
It's an unbelievably horrible world out there with a lot of wackos. - savvyone-1
Great post their buddy, I was going to leave it alone but I’m going away in I did not know that was happening when I saw those fans getting ejected, I just figured they were drunken bumholes,
1-Anytime the flyers want to trade Wayne Simmons I will be first in line if Stan Bowman were to acquire him and offerto pick him up from the airport, he is the perfect player we need as evidence last night when another guy whom I love Tom Wilson, got pissed off that his team was being embarrassed and decided to stir it up, unlike the pussies we have that just lost eight in a row And no one showed any emotion about it.I blame that on the general manager from not getting that type of player.
2-I love the Anthony DuClair trade, I was a proponent of that move for a long time, I think that kid has a tremendous upside.
3- when myself and my wife were on our honeymoon back in the late 90s, we were in Edmonton for part of our honeymoon, and were introduced to Georges Laraque, when he found out it was part of our honeymoon he bought us dinner, what a gentleman, talk about a Lenix Lewis look-alike. I was always a big fan of his because as evidenced in many of my posts throughout the years I like the big tough players which this team sorely lacks.
We have had several multi racial players that have been integral part of the Blackhawks Stanley Cup success, so I agree that there’s no room for that type of stuff. With that being said if all they said was something about basketball that’s just plain dumb and beer talk. But if it went any further As far as ignorant hateful crap,then I totally agreeBecause the same argument could be made if all it was was about basketball, how about the movie white men can’t jump, is that stereotyping? I’m not gonna get into it this is just my opinion but I am glad BLACKHAWKS did the right thing. No room for that type of crap.
Great post their buddy, I was going to leave it alone but I’m going away in I did not know that was happening when I saw those fans getting ejected, I just figured they were drunken bumholes,
1-Anytime the flyers want to trade Wayne Simmons I will be first in line if Stan Bowman were to acquire him and offerto pick him up from the airport, he is the perfect player we need as evidence last night when another guy whom I love Tom Wilson, got pissed off that his team was being embarrassed and decided to stir it up, unlike the pussies we have that just lost eight in a row And no one showed any emotion about it.I blame that on the general manager from not getting that type of player.
2-I love the Anthony DuClair trade, I was a proponent of that move for a long time, I think that kid has a tremendous upside.
3- when myself and my wife were on our honeymoon back in the late 90s, we were in Edmonton for part of our honeymoon, and were introduced to Georges Laraque, when he found out it was part of our honeymoon he bought us dinner, what a gentleman, talk about a Lenix Lewis look-alike. I was always a big fan of his because as evidenced in many of my posts throughout the years I like the big tough players which this team sorely lacks.
We have had several multi racial players that have been integral part of the Blackhawks Stanley Cup success, so I agree that there’s no room for that type of stuff. With that being said if all they said was something about basketball that’s just plain dumb and beer talk. But if it went any further with me and stuff then I totally agree. Because the same argument could be made if all it was was about basketball, how about the movie white men can’t jump, is that stereotyping? I’m not gonna get into it this is just my opinion but I am glad BLACKHAWKS did the right thing. No room for that type of crap. - wonthecup10
As one of the non-white people here, I interpret those “basketball” chant fans as meaning he should be playing basketball and not hockey because he’s black. That’s totally wrong. He spent his whole career fighting against this type of subtle non-inclusive racism However the media definitely makes this worse than if black basketball fans were chanting “hockey” at Steve Nash, which is just as bad. I’m sure black hockey players have to put up with these types of shenanigans throughout their careers since hockey is such an overwhelmingly white sport and definitely a sore spot for him. Hockey is for everyone whether you are black white or yellow. The “basketball” chant connotes black people don’t belong in hockey, which is upsetting in this modern age.
Great post their buddy, I was going to leave it alone but I’m going away in I did not know that was happening when I saw those fans getting ejected, I just figured they were drunken bumholes,
1-Anytime the flyers want to trade Wayne Simmons I will be first in line if Stan Bowman were to acquire him and offerto pick him up from the airport, he is the perfect player we need as evidence last night when another guy whom I love Tom Wilson, got pissed off that his team was being embarrassed and decided to stir it up, unlike the pussies we have that just lost eight in a row And no one showed any emotion about it.I blame that on the general manager from not getting that type of player.
2-I love the Anthony DuClair trade, I was a proponent of that move for a long time, I think that kid has a tremendous upside.
3- when myself and my wife were on our honeymoon back in the late 90s, we were in Edmonton for part of our honeymoon, and were introduced to Georges Laraque, when he found out it was part of our honeymoon he bought us dinner, what a gentleman, talk about a Lenix Lewis look-alike. I was always a big fan of his because as evidenced in many of my posts throughout the years I like the big tough players which this team sorely lacks.
We have had several multi racial players that have been integral part of the Blackhawks Stanley Cup success, so I agree that there’s no room for that type of stuff. With that being said if all they said was something about basketball that’s just plain dumb and beer talk. But if it went any further As far as ignorant hateful crap,then I totally agreeBecause the same argument could be made if all it was was about basketball, how about the movie white men can’t jump, is that stereotyping? I’m not gonna get into it this is just my opinion but I am glad BLACKHAWKS did the right thing. No room for that type of crap. - wonthecup10
As one of the non-white people here, I interpret those “basketball” chant fans as meaning he should be playing basketball and not hockey because he’s black. That’s totally wrong. He spent his whole career fighting against this type of subtle non-inclusive racism However the media definitely makes this worse than if black basketball fans were chanting “hockey” at Steve Nash, which is just as bad. I’m sure black hockey players have to put up with these types of shenanigans throughout their careers since hockey is such an overwhelmingly white sport and definitely a sore spot for him. Hockey is for everyone whether you are black white or yellow. The “basketball” chant connotes black people don’t belong in hockey, which is upsetting in this modern age. - Popsghostly
AA should be traded immediately while he still has value. You do not need him for “Centre Depth”. When he is injured he is not missed. Arguably the Hawks become a better as team speed increases. Part of the problem is Q who plays him too high up the line-up. He is not effective 5 on 5 and actually drags down Kane. Put him as the 3rd or 4th line Centre and leave him there and I’ll deal with the contract. Otherwise move him. Under no circumstances continue to pretend he is a top 6 forward. - Z3Hawk
I floated this name within the last few days...but would you do an AA for Shaw trade? players could be added to either side. just curious.
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Shaw of today not the Shaw of Hawk years. He does not bring the same game anymore - by decision. Too many concussions. Plenty of press out there about it.
Watching the Sharks/Stars game, the Sharks announcer just commented on how Stephan Johns leads the Stars in Blocks and Hits!..........Zheeesh Bowman, nice going.
Nice win for the IceHogs tonight - 4-3 over San Antonio.
Henrik Samuelsson turning out to be a sneaky good pick up - he has 3 goals in his first 3 games. - Justin Lowe
Samuelsson must be catching management’s attention. I know it’s only 3 games but that’s a pretty damn good start. I wouldn’t expect the Hawks to do anything with him but if he plays well for the remainder of the season he could earn his way to a contract. He’s likely AHL talent, but another prospect wouldn’t hurt.
