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Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 21 @ 3:41 PM ET
According to TSN, Maroon was not on the ice today at Oilers practice.....maybe coming our way ??
- bennythehat



maintenance day
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 21 @ 3:41 PM ET
Chris Kreider is close to returning, if healthy he fits our need of what we need!!
Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
I don't think the Jets will go after Shaw given his contract length. Maroon makes sense as a pure rental.

The issue the Jets have is simply about health. When healthy who are you prepared to slot out of the roster in favour of some one better?

Connor Scheifele Wheeler
Ehlers Little Laine
Lowry Copp Tanev
Perreault Hendricks Armia

Morrissey Trouba
Entstrom Byfuglien
Kulikov Myers


That's what was working before injuries to where do you change it?

1. I'm not sold on 27 18 29 as a line I think it needs to be bosted.

2. Hendricks and Armia are true role guys they are easily replaceable every year if a GM is smart enough to identify the right players

So ideally I would see possible spaces as this:

27 55 26
85 18 29
81 9 ??
17 ?? 40/??

One variable is Connor- when top line is rolling he's great but his board work and defensive zone play are works in progress maybe he needs to be sheltered in certain ways still.

So where do you shelter him- top line?

This is why the allure of Nash is so great. He cans still score and he can still skate but he is weak at shot suppression so look at this option:

81-55-26
85-18-29
Nash-17-27
9-52-40

PB Hendricks

Ehlers played his offside wing for years in junior and sometimes with the Jets- give him Lowry as the C and Nash on other side and let's go baby!

I'm not saying that Nash is the best deal but trying to illustrate how the right player can help depth and make the team that much tougher to play against.Maroon fits in the same way. He compares to a good second line winger as well with better shot suppression.

CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
I don't think the Jets will go after Shaw given his contract length. Maroon makes sense as a pure rental.

The issue the Jets have is simply about health. When healthy who are you prepared to slot out of the roster in favour of some one better?

Connor Scheifele Wheeler
Ehlers Little Laine
Lowry Copp Tanev
Perreault Hendricks Armia

Morrissey Trouba
Entstrom Byfuglien
Kulikov Myers


That's what was working before injuries to where do you change it?

1. I'm not sold on 27 18 29 as a line I think it needs to be bosted.

2. Hendricks and Armia are true role guys they are easily replaceable every year if a GM is smart enough to identify the right players

So ideally I would see possible spaces as this:

27 55 26
85 18 29
81 9 ??
17 ?? 40/??

One variable is Connor- when top line is rolling he's great but his board work and defensive zone play are works in progress maybe he needs to be sheltered in certain ways still.

So where do you shelter him- top line?

This is why the allure of Nash is so great. He cans still score and he can still skate but he is weak at shot suppression so look at this option:

81-55-26
85-18-29
Nash-17-27
9-52-40

PB Hendricks

Ehlers played his offside wing for years in junior and sometimes with the Jets- give him Lowry as the C and Nash on other side and let's go baby!

I'm not saying that Nash is the best deal but trying to illustrate how the right player can help depth and make the team that much tougher to play against.Maroon fits in the same way. He compares to a good second line winger as well with better shot suppression.

- Peter.Tessier


Pete, are you preparing us?? Why not? Let it rip Chevy!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't think the Jets will go after Shaw given his contract length. Maroon makes sense as a pure rental.

The issue the Jets have is simply about health. When healthy who are you prepared to slot out of the roster in favour of some one better?

Connor Scheifele Wheeler
Ehlers Little Laine
Lowry Copp Tanev
Perreault Hendricks Armia

Morrissey Trouba
Entstrom Byfuglien
Kulikov Myers


That's what was working before injuries to where do you change it?

1. I'm not sold on 27 18 29 as a line I think it needs to be bosted.

2. Hendricks and Armia are true role guys they are easily replaceable every year if a GM is smart enough to identify the right players

So ideally I would see possible spaces as this:

27 55 26
85 18 29
81 9 ??
17 ?? 40/??

One variable is Connor- when top line is rolling he's great but his board work and defensive zone play are works in progress maybe he needs to be sheltered in certain ways still.

So where do you shelter him- top line?

This is why the allure of Nash is so great. He cans still score and he can still skate but he is weak at shot suppression so look at this option:

81-55-26
85-18-29
Nash-17-27
9-52-40

PB Hendricks

Ehlers played his offside wing for years in junior and sometimes with the Jets- give him Lowry as the C and Nash on other side and let's go baby!

I'm not saying that Nash is the best deal but trying to illustrate how the right player can help depth and make the team that much tougher to play against.Maroon fits in the same way. He compares to a good second line winger as well with better shot suppression.

- Peter.Tessier


I agree with you the Laine-Little-Ehlers line just is not working. I would though like to see Armia with either Laine or Ehlers. Little and Perreault seem to be developing some chemistry with Roslovic.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
Just for fun:

To OTT: Jacob Trouba, Mason Appelton, Eric Comrie, Tobias Enstrom, Sean Matthias, Marko Dano, 2018 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick, 2019 7th round pick.

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan


I love Erik Karlsson
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Feb 21 @ 5:41 PM ET
Chris Kreider is close to returning, if healthy he fits our need of what we need!!
- Ross77


He would help. I have always considered Evander Kane to be a poor man's Chris Kreider.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 21 @ 8:07 PM ET
Just for fun:

To OTT: Jacob Trouba, Mason Appelton, Eric Comrie, Tobias Enstrom, Sean Matthias, Marko Dano, 2018 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick, 2019 7th round pick.

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan


I love Erik Karlsson

- TheUltimateJet


Not bad. Personally I'm not a big Ryan fan but would love Karlsson. Trouba would definitely have to be part of a Karlsson package for sure, so long as Chevy already knows that Trouba's not staying. Karlsson plays big minutes though so the rest of our top four would all get cuts in ice time.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 21 @ 8:25 PM ET
Just for fun:

To OTT: Jacob Trouba, Mason Appelton, Eric Comrie, Tobias Enstrom, Sean Matthias, Marko Dano, 2018 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick, 2019 7th round pick.

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan


I love Erik Karlsson

- TheUltimateJet


Ok, it was fun. I like Karlson as well, he would be awesome and you are correct the rest of the top 4 would get less minutes.

But, Trouba is still a RFA so if he is not staying, where is he gonna go if Chevy doesn't trade him? Nowhere, I suspect. So, if you tradeTrouba, Karlsson is just a rental and we just traded RFA Trouba for a rental (assuming Karlsson wants 10 mill per and we will not sign him). Mind you, he is the best rental money can rent, for sure but that is a lot. Plus Ryan coming our way with his overvalued contract. Ooooooo.

But Ultimate, I know it was for fun and I do like your enthusiasm!

Now make sure you stay up Thursday nite because we expect a scouting report on Kovalchuk early Friday morning. And don't drink too much beer either Thursday nite as we want a coherent report!

So, then as I write this, Eklund has a headline that Edmonton is kicking tires on Karlsson and Ryan???
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM ET
Now that Kuemper has been dealt to AZ, does Wpg do a deal with AZ that includes perhaps a Dman, take your pick, and a goalie? I am going to throw this out again, but are we not a bit thin on goaltending with two guys out?

I am concerned at this point at the goalie level. Not particularlily with Helle, who I think needs a break, but with our backup situation. Monday is trade deadline and Comrie is our NHL backup. Does no one else have any concern about goaltending at the moment?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:53 PM ET
Now that Kuemper has been dealt to AZ, does Wpg do a deal with AZ that includes perhaps a Dman, take your pick, and a goalie? I am going to throw this out again, but are we not a bit thin on goaltending with two guys out?

I am concerned at this point at the goalie level. Not particularlily with Helle, who I think needs a break, but with our backup situation. Monday is trade deadline and Comrie is our NHL backup. Does no one else have any concern about goaltending at the moment?

- CharlieDog

You can have Pavelic for a 5th
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:53 PM ET


So, then as I write this, Eklund has a headline that Edmonton is kicking tires on Karlsson and Ryan???

- CharlieDog


Don't believe anything Eklund writes. He is wrong 99% of the time. I don't even read that nonsense he writes. Just a waste of my time. He throws so much Sh1T at us that once in a blue moon he is right. I mean by now he has pretty well said Nash is going to every team in the NHL . Same with Kreider and Kane. Total joke. Same nonsense every year.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Feb 21 @ 11:56 PM ET
Now that Kuemper has been dealt to AZ, does Wpg do a deal with AZ that includes perhaps a Dman, take your pick, and a goalie? I am going to throw this out again, but are we not a bit thin on goaltending with two guys out?

I am concerned at this point at the goalie level. Not particularlily with Helle, who I think needs a break, but with our backup situation. Monday is trade deadline and Comrie is our NHL backup. Does no one else have any concern about goaltending at the moment?

- CharlieDog


I am trusting that the medical staff is providing Chevy good information about the expected recovery of Mason and Hutch. They are excellent backup options and Comrie is an unknown with a significant upside as well. If they are expected to get healthy then there is no need to rush someone new into the organization. This is why they kept Hutch around - he will be the depth.
junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Feb 22 @ 9:04 AM ET
Just for fun:

To OTT: Jacob Trouba, Mason Appelton, Eric Comrie, Tobias Enstrom, Sean Matthias, Marko Dano, 2018 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick, 2019 7th round pick.

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan


I love Erik Karlsson

- TheUltimateJet

McDonaugh is available! More need on left D for you guys. Would Jet fans part with Trouba for a package of McD and either Nash or Zucharello? Guessing there would have to be more involved, but wouldn’t be giving up as much as you would for Karlson...and you wouldn’t be taking on Ryans bloated contract
junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Feb 22 @ 9:06 AM ET
Who is to say Nash would accept a trade to Winnipeg? Better chance Jets deal for Zucharello
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 22 @ 9:52 AM ET
McDonaugh is available! More need on left D for you guys. Would Jet fans part with Trouba for a package of McD and either Nash or Zucharello? Guessing there would have to be more involved, but wouldn’t be giving up as much as you would for Karlson...and you wouldn’t be taking on Ryans bloated contract
- junaka3

Can not give up Trouba for rentals, or guys with one more year. I have to believe the plan is to lock up Trouba and trading him is a last resort.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Feb 22 @ 10:13 AM ET
Can not give up Trouba for rentals, or guys with one more year. I have to believe the plan is to lock up Trouba and trading him is a last resort.
- Ross77


Agreed.

In the big picture, one of Trouba or Buff will have to be moved. Both want to be the king and there can only be one king.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 22 @ 10:16 AM ET
Can not give up Trouba for rentals, or guys with one more year. I have to believe the plan is to lock up Trouba and trading him is a last resort.
- Ross77


Agreed. Trouba for a rental is no go. He is RFA, still have some control.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 22 @ 10:30 AM ET
You can have Pavelic for a 5th
- nyrangers9479


Why, are you not happy with your FA signing? Your season is almost done, you will be rid of him soon enough.
foxbat
Joined: 06.30.2016

Feb 22 @ 10:30 AM ET
Who is to say Nash would accept a trade to Winnipeg? Better chance Jets deal for Zucharello
- junaka3


Who is to say he wouldn't? It's 2-3 months with a playoff team that has a legitimate shot this year.
foxbat
Joined: 06.30.2016

Feb 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
Chris Kreider is close to returning, if healthy he fits our need of what we need!!
- Ross77


He would be a great fit, especially with 2-years left on his contract, although it would cost us more to get a guy like that who is still under contract, as opposed to a rental. Also, i'm not sure of his contract clauses (no trade/modified), if he would come here for 2-years.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Feb 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
Who is to say he wouldn't? It's 2-3 months with a playoff team that has a legitimate shot this year.
- foxbat


Exactly, Nash will be rental only. He is going to resign in New York July 1. This is a shot for a playoff run. The weather in Wpg is nice from the beginning of playoffs till hoisting the cup!
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Feb 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
Can not give up Trouba for rentals, or guys with one more year. I have to believe the plan is to lock up Trouba and trading him is a last resort.
- Ross77



bingo.
CorydonKeith
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.22.2014

Feb 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
Winnipeg is on Nash's list as a team he could be traded to (for the remainder of the year before UFA) ... so is Toronto and Calgary, I believe

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Feb 22 @ 12:43 PM ET
Can not give up Trouba for rentals, or guys with one more year. I have to believe the plan is to lock up Trouba and trading him is a last resort.
- Ross77


I don't think if Karlsson came here he would be a rental. The Jets have done an excellent job of signing their UFA's a season prior to them being unrestricted. In my humble opinion, Karlsson is the best player in the NHL and opportunities to land a player of his stature do not come around often.

I am looking forward to wearing my #65 Erik Karlsson Winnipeg Jets Jersey. Already pre-ordered
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