MEDICAL UPDATE: Defenseman Shea Weber will undergo surgery to repair a tear in a tendon in his left foot and will miss the remainder of the 2017-18 season.

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See, you could have come right out and said "pretty, pretty good," and that would be less saturated.
- Der Kaiser

Except I don't actually believe that and one metric doesn't prove that. For god sake, Yanni Gourde is ranked ahead of Crosby on this.

Wins above replacement literally breaks down to how many more wins you are getting (based on what has gone into calculating the number) than what you'd get from a league minimum player.

WAR in hockey explains the what, not the why. Which is why Yanni Gourde ranks higher on this list than Brayden Point, despite the fact that 10 other metrics suggest Point drives that line.

It's also worth noting that the guy who came up with this model, developed it by re-hashing an old model he designed which was rejected by sports analytics journals.

Except I don't actually believe that and one metric doesn't prove that. For god sake, Yanni Gourde is ranked ahead of Crosby on this.

Wins above replacement literally breaks down to how many more wins you are getting (based on what has gone into calculating the number) than what you'd get from a league minimum player.

WAR in hockey explains the what, not the why. Which is why Yanni Gourde ranks higher on this list than Brayden Point, despite the fact that 10 other metrics suggest Point drives that line.

It's also worth noting that the guy who came up with this model, developed it by re-hashing an old model he designed which was rejected by sports analytics journals.
- Sabresfan-365

I understand WAR to be a compendium of multiple metrics though.
The internet tells me "You should always use more than one metric at a time when evaluating players, but WAR is all-inclusive and provides a useful reference point for comparing players."

Also, it's probably quibbling, but it isn't a comparison to a league minimum player, as I understand it, it's next best freely available player whether on the bench or in the market.

And is a Yanni Gourde BAD?

I understand WAR to be a compendium of multiple metrics though.
The internet tells me "You should always use more than one metric at a time when evaluating players, but WAR is all-inclusive and provides a useful reference point for comparing players."
- Der Kaiser

It can tell you who is having a good season to date but it lacks any sort of ability to predict future production and for a sport as "fluid" (i dunno what other word to use here) as hockey it doesn't make much sense.

I know Brock Boeser is shooting well above his expected goals for rate indicating that at some point regression will set in but WAR won't account for that, which ranks him ahead Auston Matthews.

I understand WAR to be a compendium of multiple metrics though.
The internet tells me "You should always use more than one metric at a time when evaluating players, but WAR is all-inclusive and provides a useful reference point for comparing players."

Also, it's probably quibbling, but it isn't a comparison to a league minimum player, as I understand it, it's next best freely available player whether on the bench or in the market.

And is a Yanni Gourde BAD?
- Der Kaiser

I wouldn't say next best, more like lowest possible cost to replace a player on your roster.

It can tell you who is having a good season to date but it lacks any sort of ability to predict future production and for a sport as "fluid" (i dunno what other word to use here) as hockey it doesn't make much sense.

I know Brock Boeser is shooting well above his expected goals for rate indicating that at some point regression will set in but WAR won't account for that, which ranks him ahead Auston Matthews.
- Sabresfan-365

And this brings us to the question math morons like me ask every night.

Why is this not true of all stats?? And why does it invalidate only one stat but not all?

And this brings us to the question math morons like me ask every night.

Why is this not true of all stats?? And why does it invalidate only one stat but not all?
- Der Kaiser

Answer:

Because those stats don't fit my narrative.

And this brings us to the question math morons like me ask every night.

Why is this not true of all stats?? And why does it invalidate only one stat but not all?
- Der Kaiser

Because some stats do have that ability to varying degrees.

For example, everyones favourite, corsi. It's not the be all end all but if your team is constantly seeing more shot attempts against than shot attempts for, chances are you're going to be bad unless you have a top 5 goalie and some good luck.

Expected Goals For does this too. If your team isn't scoring much but the XG numbers are high you're likely a victim of some tough luck or hot goaltending. Going back to the eye test is key here to confirm it's one of these or if you're team simply can't shoot. If it's not the latter those numbers should eventually catch up over an 82 game season. Not always though.

Not sure how reliable Brian Lawton is but this Trade Deadline time:

@brianlawton9
2h2 hours ago

Nash is a done deal just a matter of what package, McDonagh is much closer to being moved then anyone realizes, Not much out there on OEL. Appears @Senators have answered the question that they absolutely are ready to turn the page on EK. You can cross off at least 1 contender

Not sure how reliable Brian Lawton is but this Trade Deadline time:

@brianlawton9
2h2 hours ago

Nash is a done deal just a matter of what package, McDonagh is much closer to being moved then anyone realizes, Not much out there on OEL. Appears @Senators have answered the question that they absolutely are ready to turn the page on EK. You can cross off at least 1 contender
- GilPerreault11

B9

Not sure how reliable Brian Lawton is but this Trade Deadline time:

@brianlawton9
2h2 hours ago

Nash is a done deal just a matter of what package, McDonagh is much closer to being moved then anyone realizes, Not much out there on OEL. Appears @Senators have answered the question that they absolutely are ready to turn the page on EK. You can cross off at least 1 contender
- GilPerreault11

Thanks Gil

Not sure how reliable Brian Lawton is but this Trade Deadline time:

@brianlawton9
2h2 hours ago

Nash is a done deal just a matter of what package, McDonagh is much closer to being moved then anyone realizes, Not much out there on OEL. Appears @Senators have answered the question that they absolutely are ready to turn the page on EK. You can cross off at least 1 contender
- GilPerreault11

https://twitter.com/brian...status/438152652535242752

I am hearing that it is not likely that Ryan Miller will be traded by the Deadline and Sabres are turning attention towards re signing him.

Thanks Gil
- cabin

Sure, these are my sources and I'm not clamping up I kid, I kid.

https://twitter.com/brianlawton9/status/438152652535242752

I am hearing that it is not likely that Ryan Miller will be traded by the Deadline and Sabres are turning attention towards re signing him.
- Sabresfan-365

He said that back then? Well, none of us are perfect. Incarcerated Bob made a great call when he said the Sabres would get Brad Boyes a few hours before it was announced on deadline day. He is another one of my sources.

He said that back then? Well, none of us are perfect. Incarcerated Bob made a great call when he said the Sabres would get Brad Boyes a the night before it was announced on deadline day. He is another one of my sources.

I must have my period, because I'm miserable rn af

He said that back then? Well, none of us are perfect. Incarcerated Bob made a great call when he said the Sabres would get Brad Boyes a few hours before it was announced on deadline day. He is another one of my sources.
- GilPerreault11

Agreed, but his tweet history is mostly vague open ended rumours coupled with throwing poop at the wall to see what sticks.

I usually go with the big 3, Lebrun Friedman McKenzie , this time of year.

Go-to team beat reporters sometimes have an inside scoop as well

He said that back then? Well, none of us are perfect. Incarcerated Bob made a great call when he said the Sabres would get Brad Boyes the night before it was announced on deadline day. He is another one of my sources.

Per Lebrun-

Action definitely picking up on Rangers' Grabner. Cheap cap hit. Teams coming harder at NYR today it seems...
- sbroads24

League leader in empty net goals. Hot commodity.

Agreed, but his tweet history is mostly vague open ended rumours coupled with throwing poop at the wall to see what sticks.

I usually go with the big 3, Lebrun Friedman McKenzie , this time of year.

Go-to team beat reporters sometimes have an inside scoop as well
- Sabresfan-365

Oh yeah, but they don't talk until the deal is sealed very often, you need rumor mongers to this time of year.

I must have my period, because I'm miserable rn af
- 51_Killer

go get some snacks


perhaps a carbonated soda

I must have my period, because I'm miserable rn af
- 51_Killer

It's the time of year

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Ek reporting Pens willing to deal Sprong for Kane.

Ek reporting Pens willing to deal Sprong for Kane.
- Matthews_Auston

Flyers and Leafs are discussing a deal that does NOT involve JVR/Schenn, stay tuned

[quote=homiedclown]go get some snacks


perhaps a carbonated soda