Pretty much every coach in the league is harder on the young guys. Anyone expecting Green to be any different was setting themselves up for disappointment
- Nucker101

I was disappointed when they didn't interview anyone for the position.

- A_SteamingLombardi

a pre-requisite to work for the canucks should not be that you are somehow tied to the organization from earlier playing days
- Codes1087

As much as I agree that “manager-employee” conversations should be just that, this idea that manager positions shouldn’t be held by former players is ludicrous. It’s not you, it has been a common sentiment lately, but look around the league. If I had to guess I would say 95% of upper management positions are held by former players. The same for coaching positions.

Two of the most successful general managers in the league currently are David Poile, who’s father was an NHL player and he played college hockey before becoming an executive with the Atlanta Flames. The other is Steve Yzerman, a former player...

Ron Hextall played parts of 11 seasons for the Flyers, are Flyer fans demanding to move on from formerly players?

Being an ex-Canuck didn’t get Jim Benning his job, and I’m sure his loyalty has nothing to do with where he played. I’m not saying the current organizational structure is great, but I don’t think their past affiliations are why they are struggling.

Somebodies panties are in a knot today. (not mine)
- manvanfan

just calling it like it is. Zero pom poms today

As much as I agree that “manager-employee” conversations should be just that, this idea that manager positions shouldn’t be held by former players is ludicrous. It’s not you, it has been a common sentiment lately, but look around the league. If I had to guess I would say 95% of upper management positions are held by former players. The same for coaching positions.

Two of the most successful general managers in the league currently are David Poile, who’s father was an NHL player and he played college hockey before becoming an executive with the Atlanta Flames. The other is Steve Yzerman, a former player...

Ron Hextall played parts of 11 seasons for the Flyers, are Flyer fans demanding to move on from formerly players?

Being an ex-Canuck didn’t get Jim Benning his job, and I’m sure his loyalty has nothing to do with where he played. I’m not saying the current organizational structure is great, but I don’t think their past affiliations are why they are struggling
- 1970vintage

I think if you qualify for the job, than you should be rewarded that job. Nothing to do with history, loyalty, past experience as a player with the organization, gender, whatever the hell you want to say. It should come down to having the right qualifications to do the job. This is why I think Trevor is completely over his head. He rides bikes, hikes the grind, and is a former player for the Canucks, and that qualified him to be President? Its mind boggling.

I was disappointed when they didn't interview anyone for the position.
- Marwood

lol fair enough

just calling it like it is. Zero pom poms today
- Codes1087

I'll come slap you with mine, if I can find them. You won't even see it coming. Better look down.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...inues-deteriorate/sn-amp/

Quebec city flames has a nice ring to it.
- Pres.cup

The price to purchase an existing franchise would have to be VERY low when you consider the success of Vegas. Why buy a poopty team when you can start fresh with something you build yourself?

I think if you qualify for the job, than you should be rewarded that job. Nothing to do with history, loyalty, past experience as a player with the organization, gender, whatever the hell you want to say. It should come down to having the right qualifications to do the job. This is why I think Trevor is completely over his head. He rides bikes, hikes the grind, and is a former player for the Canucks, and that qualified him to be President? Its mind boggling.
- Codes1087

I’ve never met him, and I don’t pretend to know his actual business qualifications though I suspect they are likely higher then riding bikes and lower then running an $800m sports franchise

I’ve never met him, and I don’t pretend to know his actual business qualifications though I suspect they are likely higher then riding bikes and lower then running an $800m sports franchise
- 1970vintage

pretty good assumption lol



than* running

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=85308

San Jose signed this guy. I watched a bit of the olympics but don't remember him.

Andrei Mironov will indeed head back to Russia after terminating his contract, and as agent Dan Milstein of Gold Star Hockey explains on Twitter, he’d like to thank everyone in the Colorado Avalanche organization. It doesn’t seem like there is any bad blood between the two sides, but there just wasn’t a fit for Mironov after signing his entry-level contract last May. The 23-year old defenseman played just 10 games in the NHL, and will likely return to the KHL.

Another Russian going back. Goldy's next.

- RealityChecker

Green to Media:
I had a 20 minute talk with Goldy today. Told him he is really good with the puck, but not so good when he doesn't have it. Asked him "how long do you think you had the puck last night?" he replied "2 minutes". I went to our analytics dept and they told me he had it for 29 seconds.


Green is an idiot. People wonder why the media is so bad in Vancouver, its because we have an idiot coach that gives the media a whole bunch of negative poop to talk about. What good does it serve to ever throw a newer player/prospect under the bus like that. Its the same thing with his "unscripted" outburst at Nilsson, not "knowing" he had a camera on him the whole time.
- Codes1087

IMO:

TG: Had a good talk with Goldy. Told him hes been good with the puck, but want to see more from him away from it. I am sure it will come

Reality:

TG: Had a 20 minute 1 on 1 with Goldy today. Told him he was good with the puck, but sucked without it, then asked him how long he thought he had it on his stick last night..... 2 minutes. Went to our analytics department and they confirmed it. Only had 29 seconds.
- Codes1087

I think it's great that Green is calling out Goblin's pathetic performances. I agree that he should do the same with some vets.

That's not how I read it at all.

Green wants Goldy to be better away from the puck. He's asking him how much time he think he has with the puck to show him that, however good he is with the puck, he'll always spend more time in a game without the puck.

He played a total of 9:31 the other night, and had the puck for 0:29, leaving him without the puck for 9:02 of game time. Basically played 95% of his game without the puck. That's what Green is getting at – not throwing anyone under the bus, but showing the majority of his playing time is always going to be without the puck. If he wants to improve, that's the area he'll have to improve the most.
- NewYorkNuck

well said. A total non-issue (but this is entertaining)

he does come across as a bit of a dink.

still not sure if that makes him a bad coach, still not sure what to expect with the team he is coaching.

I want him to play the kids but if they are given assignments or not following the system, they still have to be somewhat accountable. guess that is hard to balance.
- hillbillydeluxe

players all seem to love him. But who cares, it's about what posters think

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=85308

San Jose signed this guy. I watched a bit of the olympics but don't remember him.



Another Russian going back. Goldy's next.
- manvanfan

Seems like a decent gamble for SJ to take.

Most of the Russians who go back are guys who came over after being drafted, not before. I see Goldobin being more like Yak, he'll stick around as long as he's on an NHL roster, but if he clears waivers next year and is sent down to the AHL, I could see him going back.

Goldobin played in Finland instead of Russia after the Sharks wanted him to play in a men's league. That's pretty telling.


I still hope he gets 2nd unit PP time and 10+ mins per game down the stretch. Nothing to lose.

I was disappointed when they didn't interview anyone for the position.
- Marwood

has Green called out MDZ/LE/Sedins/Gagner/Granlund/Sutter/Gudbranson once this year? Pretty quick to call out the inconsistencies with players who are in the ELC's, but than can't hold vets accountable for poop.
- Codes1087

We all do it, but speaking as if you know exactly what's going on is a large-scale assumption that panders to emotional (over)reaction. Has he called out all those players to the media? Not exactly like he's put the gears to the kids, but he's mentioned instances of vet players. Mainly, though, we have no idea what he says in the locker room: who he calls out, who gets flak, who gets held accountable, etc. Like Nucker said, this isn't a TG thing: all coaches are harder on the kids.

I think if you qualify for the job, than you should be rewarded that job. Nothing to do with history, loyalty, past experience as a player with the organization, gender, whatever the hell you want to say. It should come down to having the right qualifications to do the job. This is why I think Trevor is completely over his head. He rides bikes, hikes the grind, and is a former player for the Canucks, and that qualified him to be President? Its mind boggling.
- Codes1087

You're really downplaying his career and playing-up the things you want to make him look bad for. Aside from playing for 20 years in the NHL and playing on the Olympic team, he also was president of the NHLPA for 8 years, and – through all the flak given here – has run his successful business operations since retiring. How many former players crap the bed post-hockey with their businesses?

I'm not saying he's the best choice to be running this, but he definitely is very qualified to be in the position he is.

I’ve never met him, and I don’t pretend to know his actual business qualifications though I suspect they are likely higher then riding bikes and lower then running an $800m sports franchise
- 1970vintage

Seems like a decent gamble for SJ to take.

Most of the Russians who go back are guys who came over after being drafted, not before. I see Goldobin being more like Yak, he'll stick around as long as he's on an NHL roster, but if he clears waivers next year and is sent down to the AHL, I could see him going back.

Goldobin played in Finland instead of Russia after the Sharks wanted him to play in a men's league. That's pretty telling.


I still hope he gets 2nd unit PP time and 10+ mins per game down the stretch. Nothing to lose.
- Nucker101

i get the reasons that these guys go back (from culture to money) but what i don't get is why they get a pass but north american players eg drouin don't for basically the same behaviour.

while culture and language exacerbate the problem, the reasons they go back is largely due to lack of playing time or a perceived lack of opportunity. pretty much the same reasons drouin complained about.

(not specifically you)

Any trades?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Can we trade Pres . Cup

i get the reasons that these guys go back (from culture to money) but what i don't get is why they get a pass but north american players eg drouin don't for basically the same behaviour.

while culture and language exacerbate the problem, the reasons they go back is largely due to lack of playing time or a perceived lack of opportunity. pretty much the same reasons drouin complained about.

(not specifically you)
- RealityChecker

I think teams often try to handle the russians more carefully and with more leniance because they know for the majority(it would seem) in russian culture the dream of playing in the NHL and winning a Stanley cup doesnt apply the same way. If you think about a player like Drouin leaving the NHL and going to Russia to play hockey, do you really think a championship over there would mean nearly as much to him?

In not being as devoted they hold more power over the organizations that draft them, the simple solution would be to not draft them but quite often they have so much talent that teams dont want to pass it up despite discipline/motivation issues

i get the reasons that these guys go back (from culture to money) but what i don't get is why they get a pass but north american players eg drouin don't for basically the same behaviour.

while culture and language exacerbate the problem, the reasons they go back is largely due to lack of playing time or a perceived lack of opportunity. pretty much the same reasons drouin complained about.

(not specifically you)
- RealityChecker

This basically comes right back to “it’s the fans fault”.

This basically comes right back to “it’s the fans fault”.
- 1970vintage

it basically comes down to double standards.