jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I can't wait until we blow this whole thing up and start over in the summer - gerbe75pts
It's not gonna happen. They'll try to move some salary, but there's no way Tpegs approves a full tear down. There's also no good reason to do it. One reason TO's turnaround was quicker is that they left pieces in place for after their suck years. The sabres left Ennis, Moulson and Girgensons. No bueno |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Please go to whatever part of Dubai it is where they have the wholesale ban on the internet. - Der Kaiser
Just because we need a full rebuild doesn't mean you have to go down my throat. |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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It's not gonna happen. They'll try to move some salary, but there's no way Tpegs approves a full tear down. There's also no good reason to do it. One reason TO's turnaround was quicker is that they left pieces in place for after their suck years. The sabres left Ennis, Moulson and Girgensons. No bueno - jcragcrumple
It's already going to happen JB already confirmed that it's going to be a rebuilding process
You honestly think ROR ,Kyle are going to stick around?
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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It's not gonna happen. They'll try to move some salary, but there's no way Tpegs approves a full tear down. There's also no good reason to do it. One reason TO's turnaround was quicker is that they left pieces in place for after their suck years. The sabres left Ennis, Moulson and Girgensons. No bueno - jcragcrumple
And they traded for a goaltender that was proven in the playoffs and cost them so little |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Stastny
Backlund
Eller
Desharnais
We need one of those guys, maybe in that order - jcragcrumple
Pass on all 4 .
And stastny I would never sign him he's going to get a huge contract but he will not back it up with his play here |
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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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It's not gonna happen. They'll try to move some salary, but there's no way Tpegs approves a full tear down. There's also no good reason to do it. One reason TO's turnaround was quicker is that they left pieces in place for after their suck years. The sabres left Ennis, Moulson and Girgensons. No bueno - jcragcrumple
they also didn't blow picks on band aides |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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It's already going to happen JB already confirmed that it's going to be a rebuilding process
You honestly think ROR ,Kyle are going to stick around? - gerbe75pts
Yes
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IndianaSabresFan
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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Pass on all 4 .
And stastny I would never sign him he's going to get a huge contract but he will not back it up with his play here - gerbe75pts
i agree on stastny.. unless you are getting him for a medium term in the 5 mil range i would pass..,. and even 5 mil would probably be too much in about 3 years |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Just because we need a full rebuild doesn't mean you have to go down my throat. - gerbe75pts
You are very very confused. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Yes - Boss34
I don't maybe Kyle but ROR will want to be on a playoff team who knows how long is rebuilding process will take maybe 3 years maybe 4
And I'm hoping someone trades for Kyle in summer I don't want him on the team |
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Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: NY Joined: 06.18.2012
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Anybody hearing of any College Free Agents we could be chasing? I know GMJB loves College players, so I am sure we are chasing a few of them.
Thanks! |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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i agree on stastny.. unless you are getting him for a medium term in the 5 mil range i would pass..,. and even 5 mil would probably be too much in about 3 years - IndianaSabresFan
Stastny Plus he's 32 his play is going to slowly decline more more I don't want nothing to do with that
There has to be better options out there |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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You are very very confused. - Der Kaiser
I can see clearly now, the rain is gone |
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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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i hear jack skated on saturday.. but still no timetable. i hope its october |
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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN Joined: 01.17.2007
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You are very very confused. - Der Kaiser
he likes things down his throat.. i didn't know you were into that but, hey its 2018 i don't judge |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Anybody hearing of any College Free Agents we could be chasing? I know GMJB loves College players, so I am sure we are chasing a few of them.
Thanks! - Lilroot9
Tyler Sheehy
Daniel Brickley
Robby Jackson
Hutton
Rauhauser
Halloran
Jones
Bergh
Conrad, |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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It's already going to happen JB already confirmed that it's going to be a rebuilding process
You honestly think ROR ,Kyle are going to stick around? - gerbe75pts
He said no such thing. In fact, he laughed when asked if he would trade O'Reilly. Let's talk motivation for a second. There are 3 parties to convince that a full tear down is a good idea (more on that later)
Owner
GM
Fans
The owner has no motivation to get worse for 3 more years, the GM has no reason to get worse, and the fans (other than a contingent here) have no stomach for it. Botterill has repeatedly said building down the middle is a priority.
Now let's talk core.
Core players: Eichel, ROR, Risto
Strong supporting players: Scandella, Okposo, Reinhart, McCabe, Erod
Undesirables: Moulson, Pominville, Bogo, Gorges
Irrelevant: 28, 22, Nolan, Josefson, Lehner, etc.
So your core and strong supporting players are all on the young side, with the exception of Okposo. There is no reason to blow that up. Now, it is possible, maybe even probable, that some strong supporting players get moved to rid themselves of an undesirable contract. The Irrelevants will be shed. But will ROR or Reinhart or Risto be traded for futures? Absolutely not. There is an extended rebuild coming, but it's like putting a new roof on the old roof. It's not a full tear off |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I don't maybe Kyle but ROR will want to be on a playoff team who knows how long is rebuilding process will take maybe 3 years maybe 4
And I'm hoping someone trades for Kyle in summer I don't want him on the team - gerbe75pts
Ok, but who's taking these contracts?
Why move them unless your getting back 2 (55) point players? Ror and okposo are good second line players, even on a playoff team. We are not in cap trouble.
We're going to be competing for a playoff spot next year |
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51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buttplug, NY Joined: 08.15.2013
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Just because we need a full rebuild doesn't mean you have to go down my throat. - gerbe75pts
That takes a lot of practice. |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Stastny Plus he's 32 his play is going to slowly decline more more I don't want nothing to do with that
There has to be better options out there - gerbe75pts
No more overpriced older free agents.
We have that covered. Unless we are close to a cup |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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He said no such thing. In fact, he laughed when asked if he would trade O'Reilly. Let's talk motivation for a second. There are 3 parties to convince that a full tear down is a good idea (more on that later)
Owner
GM
Fans
( If we don't completely tear this down we're going to be back in to this same situation every year)
So they're going to do a quick fix and then we're good for a year and then back in the cellar that's not a very smart plan
The owner has no motivation to get worse for 3 more years, the GM has no reason to get worse, and the fans (other than a contingent here) have no stomach for it. Botterill has repeatedly said building down the middle is a priority.
Now let's talk core.
Core players: Eichel, ROR, Risto
Strong supporting players: Scandella, Okposo, Reinhart, McCabe, Erod
Undesirables: Moulson, Pominville, Bogo, Gorges
Irrelevant: 28, 22, Nolan, Josefson, Lehner, etc.
So your core and strong supporting players are all on the young side, with the exception of Okposo. There is no reason to blow that up. Now, it is possible, maybe even probable, that some strong supporting players get moved to rid themselves of an undesirable contract. The Irrelevants will be shed. But will ROR or Reinhart or Risto be traded for futures? Absolutely not. There is an extended rebuild coming, but it's like putting a new roof on the old roof. It's not a full tear off - jcragcrumple
I don't agree with retooling we need to completely destroy this roster and start with Jack, Casey,2018 pick
It's time to finally build through the draft and Ryan O'Reilly and Kyle and ristolainen will help us get picks to build the franchise right |
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Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: NY Joined: 06.18.2012
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Tyler Sheehy
Daniel Brickley
Robby Jackson
Hutton
Rauhauser
Halloran
Jones
Bergh
Conrad, - gerbe75pts
I like a few of those guys (just googling them) but does anyone know of a rumor / link to the Sabres, like GMJB likes them? I know Brickley was at our development camp last year, just not sure that translates into us signing him, but I hope it does. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Ok, but who's taking these contracts?
Why move them unless your getting back 2 (55) point players? Ror and okposo are good second line players, even on a playoff team. We are not in cap trouble.
We're going to be competing for a playoff spot next year - Boss34
Maybe we can get a high Prospect for Ryan O'Reilly and a first I think Vegas would be an ideal place
Kyle is not going to get much ..
Ristolainen should get us a good package |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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That takes a lot of practice. - 51_Killer
Maybe you could give gerbe some pointers, sounds like you have some experience |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I like a few of those guys (just googling them) but does anyone know of a rumor / link to the Sabres, like GMJB likes them? I know Brickley was at our development camp last year, just not sure that translates into us signing him, but I hope it does. - Lilroot9
Have not seen any I'm sure the coming weeks will be some rumors with the season coming to the end that's when the signings usually happen |
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