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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 3:07 PM ET
We are talking about 600k. Who cares. Its FAs money anyway. Its fine to try and factor in bonus's within the cap but i dont think most teams allocate that much cap for every player to hit their bonus's
- Codes1087


I think he meant overall, rookie bonuses aren’t the issue lol.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:08 PM ET
Which one is that?
- Reubenkincade


I was wrong. It was a negotiated 20 goal bonus. And all other bonus's are league paid. He had only maxed team paid
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
We are talking about 600k. Who cares. Its FAs money anyway. Its fine to try and factor in bonus's within the cap but i dont think most teams allocate that much cap for every player to hit their bonus's
- Codes1087


In general cap allocation hasn't been a strong suit for management. Its a 28th place team with 95% their own negotiated contracts, and they're facing an overage. If they'd taken on some problem contracts and it led to this then its one thing. To have it all on contracts you negotiated is another.

Most teams do allocate space for this, and the Canucks have a bunch of guys on ELCs and most aren't hitting their extra money. Its not like they needed 9 mil as a cushion.

This is a 28th place team that is over budget. Imagine if the Cleveland Browns went over the cap somehow.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
I think he meant overall, rookie bonuses aren’t the issue lol.
- Nucker101


Henrik and daniel are 14 mill. Edler is 5? I think benning can be at fault for sutter, LE and gudbranson currently, and sbisa and dorsett previously. The rest will be determined after the cap goes up and the sedins are gone.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
I was wrong. It was a negotiated 20 goal bonus.
- Codes1087


Biech reported quite awhile back that he had maxed out on Sched A bonuses.
Brock had a good season and is a good kid, he and his faamily deserve these financial gains.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
In general cap allocation hasn't been a strong suit for management. Its a 28th place team with 95% their own negotiated contracts, and they're facing an overage. If they'd taken on some problem contracts and it led to this then its one thing. To have it all on contracts you negotiated is another.

Most teams do allocate space for this, and the Canucks have a bunch of guys on ELCs and most aren't hitting their extra money. Its not like they needed 9 mil as a cushion.

This is a 28th place team that is over budget. Imagine if the Cleveland Browns went over the cap somehow.

- Lindenis#1


This team has spent close to the cap forever. If we didnt, the uneducated fans would start gofundme pages to put up billboards in an attempt to get rid of management
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
Henrik and daniel are 14 mill. Edler is 5? I think benning can be at fault for sutter, LE and gudbranson currently, and sbisa and dorsett previously. The rest will be determined after the cap goes up and the sedins are gone.
- Codes1087


Edler is solid value at 5M. He’d get more as a UFA this summer. Going to be interesting to see what they do with the 14M coming off of the books.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
Henrik and daniel are 14 mill. Edler is 5? I think benning can be at fault for sutter, LE and gudbranson currently, and sbisa and dorsett previously. The rest will be determined after the cap goes up and the sedins are gone.
- Codes1087


Money to your most productive players is rarely an issue for any team.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
This team has spent close to the cap forever. If we didnt, the uneducated fans would start gofundme pages to put up billboards in an attempt to get rid of management
- Codes1087


None of this is a reason or excuse for anything for people in charge of a 700 million dollar business.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
Money to your most productive players is rarely an issue for any team.
- Lindenis#1


They arent the most productive anymore tho. It will be a interesting summer for benning
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
None of this is a reason or excuse for anything for people in charge of a 700 million dollar business.
- Lindenis#1


Thats an unmoveable 19 million dollars in salary cap.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
This team has spent close to the cap forever. If we didnt, the uneducated fans would start gofundme pages to put up billboards in an attempt to get rid of management
- Codes1087

Catering to the uneducated fans sounds like a terrible way to run a pro sports team.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Mar 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
Blog is loaded today!

Some details on Boeser's injury, plus the good and bad of Brendan Leipsic and Jake Virtanen's new secret sauce:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...-beat-Islanders/194/91508
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
Catering to the uneducated fans sounds like a terrible way to run a pro sports team.
- Nucker101


Name a time when this franchise didnt.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:19 PM ET
They arent the most productive anymore tho. It will be a interesting summer for benning
- Codes1087


Hank 42 points, 3rd in p/60 on the team 78th in the league
Dank 44 points, 2nd in p/60 on the team, 50th in the league
Eagle 26 points, 1st in p/60 for dmen on the team, 57th in the league for dmen

Only player better is Boeser.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
Name a time when this franchise didnt.
- Codes1087


When Gillis made a team with 4 good lines, 7 good D, elite goaltending, cutting edge sports science and early adoption of fancy stats while people were yelling on the radio "THIS TEAM NEEDS TO SIGN DEREK BOOGARD BECAUSE WHO ELSE WILL FIGHT THE GOON WHO PLAYS 5 MINUTES"
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
Name a time when this franchise didnt.
- Codes1087


I’m too young to remember, but my uncle who’s a casual fan has talked about how Keenan and Burke pissed off the fans here multiple times.

Gillis’ moneyball approach rubbed the older portion of the fanbase the wrong way
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
I’m too young to remember, but my uncle who’s a casual fan has talked about how Keenan and Burke pissed off the fans here multiple times.
- Nucker101


Yeah Keenan did whatever the (frank) he wanted and Burke was Burke so you know what he thought of the fans and media.

Nonis was flaccid with no vision and well you've seen the guys in charge now.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 6 @ 3:24 PM ET
When Gillis made a team with 4 good lines, 7 good D, elite goaltending, cutting edge sports science and early adoption of fancy stats while people were yelling on the radio "THIS TEAM NEEDS TO SIGN DEREK BOOGARD BECAUSE WHO ELSE WILL FIGHT THE GOON WHO PLAYS 5 MINUTES"
- Lindenis#1


Lol at the cost of the entire future in draft picks. K
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 3:25 PM ET
Yeah Keenan did whatever the (frank) he wanted and Burke was Burke so you know what he thought of the fans and media.

Nonis was flaccid with no vision and well you've seen the guys in charge now.

- Lindenis#1

The casuals definitely seem more forgiving with personalities like Nonis/Benning.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:27 PM ET
Lol at the cost of the entire future in draft picks. K
- Codes1087


Only brought the team its most successful period in franchise history, arguably the greatest team to never win a Stanley Cup and took the team to game 7.

Forgive me if I don't rail on a guy who saw a team's window and did whatever he could to make sure that team could get over the hump with the closed window period being an afterthought. I'd rather the goal be winning a Stanley Cup and doing everything you can than being Minnesota or St Louis where being a pretender and an also ran for decades is for some reason desirable.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
The casuals definitely seem more forgiving with personalities like Nonis/Benning.
- Nucker101


They're nice guys and I think that's kind of a problem for them when they're going up against sharks and wolves.
Still.the.Best
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 03.06.2018

Mar 6 @ 4:13 PM ET
"Paging Dr. Dragon"

"Dr. Dragon, you are required in canuck thread"

- bloatedmosquito


Careful, you'll get a 2 month ban.

Isn't that the same injury that pres. Had?
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