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Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Mar 12 @ 4:39 PM ET
Beane is crushing it
- Slump Buster



He looks really really good. A lot more then I thought Glenn would go for.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:41 PM ET
maybe, just maybe the right guys are in charge of buffalo sports teams?


*waits for BNHarrington's column on why i should jump off the peace bridge anyways*
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:41 PM ET

Peter Schrager
‏Verified account @PSchrags

Compensation for Cordy Glenn trade:

Bills and Bengals swap 1st Round picks. Bills go to 12. Bengals go to 21.

Teams also swap 5th and 6th round picks.

@nflnetwork @NFL @gmfb
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Mar 12 @ 4:44 PM ET
Peter Schrager
‏Verified account @PSchrags

Compensation for Cordy Glenn trade:

Bills and Bengals swap 1st Round picks. Bills go to 12. Bengals go to 21.

Teams also swap 5th and 6th round picks.

@nflnetwork @NFL @gmfb

- Stripes77


I think the funny part of this is that Beane must have still insisted on the swap in the 5th and 6th. That's sack - they would have had me at the swap in the first round.
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Mar 12 @ 4:44 PM ET
maybe, just maybe the right guys are in charge of buffalo sports teams?


*waits for BNHarrington's column on why i should jump off the peace bridge anyways*

- Sabresfan-365


Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:47 PM ET

Moran-Alytics Podcast (Pat Moran)
‏ @PatMoranTweets
2m2 minutes ago

The standard draft formula chart point differential between 21 and 12 is 400 points.. So going by that chart the Bills could put up 12 and 22 and get to No. 4 without giving up anything else.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:48 PM ET
I’m guessing Darnold or Rosen ends up a Bill
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Mar 12 @ 4:48 PM ET
Moran-Alytics Podcast (Pat Moran)
‏ @PatMoranTweets
2m2 minutes ago

The standard draft formula chart point differential between 21 and 12 is 400 points.. So going by that chart the Bills could put up 12 and 22 and get to No. 4 without giving up anything else.

- Stripes77


I am tempted to say that it might cost more but then again nobody else can offer two first rounders this year. That has to trump just about anything that anyone else can offer.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:49 PM ET
I think the funny part of this is that Beane must have still insisted on the swap in the 5th and 6th. That's sack - they would have had me at the swap in the first round.
- Slump Buster


So the Bills trade Glenn who didn't play much last year and pick 22 to get to pick 12, they also get better draft positions in their 5th and 6th round picks AND they get MORE cap space...

They're getting a QB and they can be players in Free Agency
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:50 PM ET
I’m guessing Darnold or Rosen ends up a Bill
- sbroads24


As I have been saying for a while I really really really like Mayfield and I am petrified of USC QBs BUUUUUT I fully trust Beane
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Mar 12 @ 4:50 PM ET
Moran-Alytics Podcast (Pat Moran)
‏ @PatMoranTweets
2m2 minutes ago

The standard draft formula chart point differential between 21 and 12 is 400 points.. So going by that chart the Bills could put up 12 and 22 and get to No. 4 without giving up anything else.

- Stripes77



What’s huge is not giving up that 1st next year. Incase the QB has a rough 1st year. Don’t want to see next years pick be a top pick we missed out on. Ex. Houston this year
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 12 @ 4:50 PM ET
Beane is a damn wizard
- sbroads24

This is exactly how Roseman did it to get Wentz.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Mar 12 @ 4:53 PM ET
I think the funny part of this is that Beane must have still insisted on the swap in the 5th and 6th. That's sack - they would have had me at the swap in the first round.
- Slump Buster



I think the bills gave up their 5 for the bengals 6th. Could be wrong though.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 12 @ 4:54 PM ET
I think the bills gave up their 5 for the bengals 6th. Could be wrong though.
- Fattony1187

Correct. I don't think they had a 6th to start. Thought they were done in round 5
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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Mar 12 @ 4:57 PM ET

Moran-Alytics Podcast (Pat Moran)
‏ @PatMoranTweets
now10 seconds ago

Going by that standard draft chart formula, Bills could get to 3rd overall pick (and also pick up a 5th) for 12, 21 and 53. They'd get their QB at No. 3 and still have a 2nd and two thirds (including an early one at No. 65). No picks in '19 sacrificed either. So much in play now
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 12 @ 4:58 PM ET
Beane, thank you for not skipping over 3ER's takes in this thread and you're welcome! Fasten your seatbelts Bills Fans
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Mar 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
i've never actually cared about the bills. casual fan.

if they get a qb that other teams actually want, i'll be so in for the first time ever.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
What’s huge is not giving up that 1st next year. Incase the QB has a rough 1st year. Don’t want to see next years pick be a top pick we missed out on. Ex. Houston this year
- Fattony1187



Houston would have been a much higher pick had Watson not gotten hurt but I totally agree

12, 22 and maybe the pick for Tyrod?

Glenn, Tyrod, and moving down with KC and this years 1st for a franchise guy?

Not to mention more cap space!!!!!

I am loving this
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
Moran-Alytics Podcast (Pat Moran)
‏ @PatMoranTweets
2m2 minutes ago

The standard draft formula chart point differential between 21 and 12 is 400 points.. So going by that chart the Bills could put up 12 and 22 and get to No. 4 without giving up anything else.

- Stripes77


Maybe....
But when Philly traded from 8 to 2 for Wentz
They had to give up an additional 1st, 2nd & 3rd

Plus...
we might not be the only ones trying to trade up
We might have to beat offers from teams like Miami, Baltimore or whoever

Or maybe Cleveland at 4,
decides only moving back a spot or 2 is in their best interest & they let Denver or the Jets moves up instead


I don’t think it’s as simple as just going by what the chart says

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
Moran-Alytics Podcast (Pat Moran)
‏ @PatMoranTweets
now10 seconds ago

Going by that standard draft chart formula, Bills could get to 3rd overall pick (and also pick up a 5th) for 12, 21 and 53. They'd get their QB at No. 3 and still have a 2nd and two thirds (including an early one at No. 65). No picks in '19 sacrificed either. So much in play now

- Stripes77

Barkley going 1 makes this a win IMO.

That’s who the Giants want I think, which would make 2 available and our choice of QB’s there.

Cleveland takes a QB 1, Giants don’t pass on Barkley, and then we need to get to 3 or 4
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Mar 12 @ 5:01 PM ET
if they don't get one of the qbs now, this is setting up to be the greatest cuck of all time
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 12 @ 5:01 PM ET
I am tempted to say that it might cost more but then again nobody else can offer two first rounders this year. That has to trump just about anything that anyone else can offer.
- Slump Buster


Idk about that

If Miami wanted to include their 1st next year in a trade,
Cleveland (or whoever) has gotta be pretty sure that pick is gonna be a lot better than the #22 we are offering this year
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Mar 12 @ 5:03 PM ET
I wonder if there is a scenario where teams (Colts, Giants) start to compete with each other to trade down. Both teams need a ton of pieces.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Mar 12 @ 5:03 PM ET
Idk about that

If Miami wanted to include their 1st next year in a trade,
Cleveland (or whoever) has gotta be pretty sure that pick is gonna be a lot better than the #22 we are offering this year

- jdfitz77


True, but who wants to wait for next year?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 12 @ 5:04 PM ET
Maybe....
But when Philly traded from 8 to 2 for Wentz
They had to give up an additional 1st, 2nd & 3rd

Plus...
we might not be the only ones trying to trade up
We might have to beat offers from teams like Miami, Baltimore or whoever

Or maybe Cleveland at 4,
decides only moving back a spot or 2 is in their best interest & they let Denver or the Jets moves up instead


I don’t think it’s as simple as just going by what the chart says

- jdfitz77


Right but the Bills have 2 1sts this year

So basically if they don't have to give up next years 1st I would be a happy camper.

If they do give up next years 1st then that better be it 12, 22 and next years 1st

That still leaves 4 picks in rounds 2 and 3 with ammo to move up or down.

They could trade the 2 2nds for a 1st next year depending on how it plays out

This is the most fun I have had in a Bills offseason since TO came and that was only for a one year deal to sell tickets!
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