He could probably hit 425 on a good team
- VANTEL

I got it worked out.

Sedins retire at the end of this year.
The team struggles, the youth are played and Sedin's come back out of retirement after the TDL (ala Mike Fischer), when all the injuries have piled up and Utica has been pillaged.
Sedin's play the last 20 games of the season or so to reach those milestones (400 g) and get the send off they deserve from the league and fans.

Win-Win.

Hire me Trevor. I can work here in NZ when you're sleeping.

8 lbs 6 oz beautiful little girl
- LeftCoaster

Congratulations

I’m guessing Horvat’s injury before and Boeser’s current injury will skew those numbers.

Granlund has sucked this year. Sven has been decent.

And by filling in this age gap, he’s hurting the team’s future depth since he’s trading away picks for these guys. I’m fine with trading away Subban and Shinkaruk, but why would a draft guru trade away picks for other team’s scraps?

He should value picks higher than other GM’s do.
- Nucker101

We can all see the team was playing much better prior to the rash of injuries than how they're playing now. They just don't have enough talent to compete without all their regulars in the line-up.

Second round picks apparently have about a 10%-12% chance of becoming a top 6 forward or a top 4 D-man. By taking other team's (undervalued) 'scraps' instead of waiting four years to find out if he's gotten lucky, Benning's added to the asset pool he has to work with.

It's the throw in picks he's given up like he did in the Gudbranson and Pouliot trades that piss me off.

We can all see the team was playing much better prior to the rash of injuries than how they're playing now. They just don't have enough talent to compete without all their regulars in the line-up.

Second round picks apparently have about a 10%-12% chance of becoming a top 6 forward or a top 4 D-man. By taking other team's (undervalued) 'scraps' instead of waiting four years to find out if he's gotten lucky, Benning's added to the asset pool he has to work with.

It's the throw in picks he's given up like he did in the Gudbranson and Pouliot trades that piss me off.
- YeOldTimer

Faur enough.

I still don’t like the “% of draft picks” argument.

By that logic almost every draft pick for player trade is a good one.

I got it worked out.

Sedins retire at the end of this year.
The team struggles, the youth are played and Sedin's come back out of retirement after the TDL (ala Mike Fischer), when all the injuries have piled up and Utica has been pillaged.
Sedin's play the last 20 games of the season or so to reach those milestones (400 g) and get the send off they deserve from the league and fans.

Win-Win.

Hire me Trevor. I can work here in NZ when you're sleeping.
- dbot

Um no

Faur enough.

I still don’t like the “% of draft picks” argument.

By that logic almost every draft pick for player trade is a good one.
- Nucker101

plus, that draft pick could out perform its value and be a hella dope ass player. you're not getting a player who's really going to out perform their expected value in a scraps for spares trade.

Granlund is a proven middle-six winger with 200+ games of experience who's reasonably responsible in his own end, kills penalties and has enough skill to play up the line-up when needed. He’s a known commodity and not a project, but still young and approaching his prime.

He is an RFA this year but he won't have much leverage to get a large payday. If the Canucks can sign him to a multi-year deal at a reasonable cap-hit, he becomes an attractive complementary player for a contender. He might appeal to a team who has a logjam of talent in their system, is starting to get into cap trouble and wants a young vet with cost-certainty.

Even though he’s not a player we’re all that excited about now, he’s an asset that could soon be used to acquire one within a year or two. It would have been riskier and an even longer more painful wait for Benning not to trade away a few of his early draft picks to make some of these tweener deals.
- YeOldTimer

Agreed, one of the few guys in the bottom 6 I would say is a legit NHL caliber player. In a lot of ways I think Gagner gets deployed in a lot of what last year would have been Granny's ozone starts. Gagner is a matchup nightmare and needs to be used more sparingly IMO. He only averaged 12-13 minutes in Columbus for a reason! pretty much only play PP there. If not on PP, what the hell is he on this team for?!

I got it worked out.

Sedins retire at the end of this year.
The team struggles, the youth are played and Sedin's come back out of retirement after the TDL (ala Mike Fischer), when all the injuries have piled up and Utica has been pillaged.
Sedin's play the last 20 games of the season or so to reach those milestones (400 g) and get the send off they deserve from the league and fans.

Win-Win.

Hire me Trevor. I can work here in NZ when you're sleeping.
- dbot

You know,this would actually be a smart way to increase productivity if you think about it.

You know,this would actually be a smart way to increase productivity if you think about it.
- neem55

No it wouldn't . Cut the damn chord already

No it wouldn't . Cut the damn chord already
- VANTEL

I meant having an office in NZ and here, where a company could conceivably work/be productive 18-20 hours per day. But keep living the dream!

Agreed, one of the few guys in the bottom 6 I would say is a legit NHL caliber player. In a lot of ways I think Gagner gets deployed in a lot of what last year would have been Granny's ozone starts. Gagner is a matchup nightmare and needs to be used more sparingly IMO. He only averaged 12-13 minutes in Columbus for a reason! pretty much only play PP there. If not on PP, what the hell is he on this team for?!
- neem55

this team doesn't prescout what made players successful before they sign them to big contracts. if they did then they either wouldn't have signed Gagner or Eriksson, or they're just morons who think they're actually smarter than everyone else.

this team doesn't prescout what made players successful before they sign them to big contracts. if they did then they either wouldn't have signed Gagner or Eriksson, or they're just morons who think they're actually smarter than everyone else.
- Lindenis#1

I've been pretty shocked at Gagner's deployment. Very little PP1 time at any point after running a very successful Columbus unit last year. One thing I will say about the Sedins: they are better than average on the PP, and much better than Gagner(both of them) in general. I'd love for him to get traded.

I've been pretty shocked at Gagner's deployment. Very little PP1 time at any point after running a very successful Columbus unit last year. One thing I will say about the Sedins: they are better than average on the PP, and much better than Gagner(both of them) in general. I'd love for him to get traded.
- neem55

Its like they didn't pre-scout him on what made him succesfful and just looked at a few traits and filled in the blanks with common stereotypes. its like they just saw "he plays PP, and he's right handed. Must make him a trigger man."

Gagner was in the middle of the ice and would occasionally shoot, but usually just found seems to give other players the puck in better shooting areas. Not even going back to Edmonton was he used in the Ovi spot, because he has a muffin for a shot. When he did shoot it was more because they had the traffic and numbers down low to clean up the ensuing scramble. He's not a shoot-to-score player.

Same ish with Eriksson. Loui did what Kesler did at his peak: Cleaned up garbage, had like 10 goals go in off his nutsack and occasionally bumpered out high for a one timer. Except as a lefty the Canucks PP set up has never been conducive to any LH shot getting one timers in high danger areas, same reason Edler can be so frustrating and Garrison was a bust.

its going to be curious to see what the PP does and who it runs though without the Sedins next year, because part of what made Boeser so good is being the cross ice one timer for a guy who is still an elite passer. Goldobin is honest to goodness probably the next closest in that skill set. :/

Faur enough.

I still don’t like the “% of draft picks” argument.

By that logic almost every draft pick for player trade is a good one.
- Nucker101

It's just easier to assess what a 21 or 22 year old is likely to be capable of in a year or two than it is to predict how successful a 17 or 18 year old will be in 5 or 6 years.

Just listened to Ray Ferraro...great segment. Talked about the youth, the Sedins and the challenges that lay ahead.

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/...any-as-possible-1.1026073

3-1 Ott over TB

It's just easier to assess what a 21 or 22 year old is likely to be capable of in a year or two than it is to predict how successful a 17 or 18 year old will be in 5 or 6 years.
- YeOldTimer

And the reason you're getting them is because their team has assessed and said "k thx bai"

It's just easier to assess what a 21 or 22 year old is likely to be capable of in a year or two than it is to predict how successful a 17 or 18 year old will be in 5 or 6 years.
- YeOldTimer

The problem is , the teams trading away those 21-22 year olds have been watching them since they were 17-18 and are trading them for a reason.

The problem is , the teams trading away those 21-22 year olds have been watching them since they were 17-18 and are trading them for a reason.
- A_SteamingLombardi

It's probably similar to 2nd/3rd round draft %'s.
Sometimes you unearth a gem.
e.g. Cam Neely, Marcus Naslund, Brett Hull.

Just listened to Ray Ferraro...great segment. Talked about the youth, the Sedins and the challenges that lay ahead.

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/...any-as-possible-1.1026073
- Eldebrink

Look to the future

Look to the future
- A_SteamingLombardi

I agree with him. Miller, Vrbata where not good signings at the time. Patch job with Gagner, MDZ isn't much an improvement from what we have. $17 m could been better spent.

LETs go oilers! First and last time I say that

I agree with him. Miller, Vrbata where not good signings at the time. Patch job with Gagner, MDZ isn't much an improvement from what we have. $17 m could been better spent.
- Eldebrink

In a perfect world where players want to play in Vancouver I agree. I hope that changes when Seattle becomes a team. Will change out travel dramatically

Go Sens!!!

In a perfect world where players want to play in Vancouver I agree. I hope that changes when Seattle becomes a team. Will change out travel dramatically
- neem55

Over the years we haven't been a desirable place to play...maybe that's why they've thrown so much money at these guys.