No they just make the best franchise quarterback that's all they do...

What has the big 12 done ?

Crickets
- gerbe75pts

Name one.

Can you name quarterbacks from the Big 12 that have been successful in the NFL besides Troy Aikman
- gerbe75pts

point taken...

(sam Bradford, andy dalton)

tell me how many QBs came out of USC/UCLA that were any good. Frank Gifford doesn't count.

I will wait.

- Gramps28

Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer 2 HOF good enough for me

well played...you could add winslow in there as well...

yet the following season, those two couldn't catch anything thrown their way
- Michael Pachla

Yeah, Edwards had a problem with drops his whole career, it was infuriating. Watching him tear it up in college. That Michigan Michigan St 3OT game his senior year is still one of my most memorable games.


He went 11 for 189 and 3 TDs in that game.

point taken...

(sam Bradford, andy dalton)
- Michael Pachla

matt leinart. cade mcCown

matt leinart. cade mcCown
- Gramps28

Honestly pathetic you can do that for every school what good QB's came out of Stanford

You could do that for every (frank)ing school

I'm talking about the big 12 not producing quarterbacks that's all I'm saying bro

matt leinart. cade mcCown
- Gramps28

he does have a point

he does have a point
- Michael Pachla

Not really you can do that with every team

Okay let me play this game what was the last QB that was good at Oklahoma State ??????

Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer 2 HOF good enough for me
- gerbe75pts

WTF has Palmer ever won? And rodgers was the 24th pick. hmmm

Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer 2 HOF good enough for me
- gerbe75pts

Nope, Rodgers went to Cal.

Honestly pathetic you can do that for every school what good QB's came out of Stanford

You could do that for every (frank)ing school

I'm talking about the big 12 not producing quarterbacks that's all I'm saying bro
- gerbe75pts

about as many as as the pac 12 does.

and i ain't your bro, dudette

point taken...

(sam Bradford, andy dalton)
- Michael Pachla

Exactly I'm looking at statistics they don't produce good quarterback

I'm not trying to be that guy but history hasn't been on their side

Not really you can do that with every team

Okay let me play this game what was the last QB that was good at Oklahoma State ??????
- gerbe75pts

pac-12 does turn out some pretty good nfl quarterbacks...you made a good point

WTF has Palmer ever won? And rodgers was the 24th pick. hmmm
- Gramps28

The Bills aren't going to get that lucky.

Nope, Rodgers went to Cal.
- Wetbandit1

i did say pac 12.

Nope, Rodgers went to Cal.
- Wetbandit1

Obviously got Brett Hundley mixed up oh well

You win that one

Exactly I'm looking at statistics they don't produce good quarterback

I'm not trying to be that guy but history hasn't been on their side
- gerbe75pts

pedigree is great, but success depends upon a lot of things, and that includes a complete team surrounding him and a coaching staff that knows what they're doing...

the only qb that could do it with very little around him was peyton manning from Tennessee (which is not pac-12)

The Bills aren't going to get that lucky.
- Wetbandit1

and rodgers wouldn't have turned out so well if wasn't able to work on his flaws when he came out of college for a couple of seasons. he may have still be good but not at this level. there were a lot of questions regarding him coming out of Cal.

about as many as as the pac 12 does.

and i ain't your bro, dudette
- Gramps28

I think you need to look at how many NFL QB's that were in the Pac-12 it's about half

and rodgers wouldn't have turned out so well if wasn't able to work on his flaws when he came out of college for a couple of seasons. he may have still be good but not at this level. there were a lot of questions regarding him coming out of Cal.
- Gramps28

Can we not use Aaron Rodgers as an example ..please

Exactly I'm looking at statistics they don't produce good quarterback

I'm not trying to be that guy but history hasn't been on their side
- gerbe75pts

bro

pedigree is great, but success depends upon a lot of things, and that includes a complete team surrounding him and a coaching staff that knows what they're doing...

the only qb that could do it with very little around him was peyton manning from Tennessee (which is not pac-12)
- Michael Pachla

You have to go with the league that produces QB's that's all I'm saying..

Just like some NHL teams will go with Canadians because they have history on their side

bro
- chilliard77

What wrong ?

WTF has Palmer ever won? And rodgers was the 24th pick. hmmm
- Gramps28

You don't think Palmer is a HOF ?

i did say pac 12.
- Gramps28

I was replying to Gerbe saying he went to USC/UCLA.