Well ALL the NHL PLAYERS who voted him the 5th most underrated player must know less then you & Sbroads then...
right?
- jdfitz77

they also voted nick leddy the third fastest skater and quick the 2nd toughest to score on.

Oh and Toews over karlsson for starting a franchise

1) NEVER said that

2) said he COULD be

You keep twisting words like u do stats though
- jdfitz77

Jesus dude. Own your bad takes.

You argued with me over Boston last year when I called them a “great team” and they lost to Ottawa in the first round.

You said they were on the decline and we were for sure going to pass them.

Yeah except scoring chances, shots, shot suppression is infinitely more important than faceoffs.

That’s the point
- sbroads24

Like when we outshot Toronto the other night & still got our butts kicked?

All i said was that it HELPS

Not that it’s meaningless like Sbroads says
- jdfitz77

It might help, I just don't think it's all that impactful. Not enough for me to say it's an important attribute to have.

Buffalo Fanatics
@BuffFanatics
2004 NFL Draft:

• Eli Manning
• Ben Roethlisberger
• Philip Rivers

-#Bills trade up, they got a franchise QB. Instead they waited and settled for who was there and took JP Losman.

-

2004 #Bills 1st Round Picks:
• 13
• 22

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2018 #Bills 1st Round Picks:
• 12
• 22


Will history repeat itself smh

Like when we outshot Toronto the other night & still got our butts kicked?
- jdfitz77

Well, a lot of our shots came on a few PP’s. They controlled the game

Jesus dude. Own your bad takes.

You argued with me over Boston last year when I called them a “great team” and they lost to Ottawa in the first round.

You said they were on the decline and we were for sure going to pass them.
- sbroads24

Yeah... bc they weren’t a great team
I was right
You were wrong

And i didn’t say for sure we’d pass them
Like the Leafs, i said i could see them taking a step back
I also said that about Montreal & Ottawa
Maybe you don’t know what “for sure means” though?

It might help, I just don't think it's all that impactful. Not enough for me to say it's an important attribute to have.
- Sabresfan-365

With 10 seconds left,
down by 1...

Do u wanna win the faceoff?
Yes or no

Well, a lot of our shots came on a few PP’s. They controlled the game
- sbroads24

I forgot that PPs don’t count...
my bad

Chicago is outshooting us 28-18
But it’s tied
So i guess that stat doesn’t matter...

Yeah... bc they weren’t a great team
I was right
You were wrong

And i didn’t say for sure we’d pass them
Like the Leafs, i said i could see them taking a step back
I also said that about Montreal & Ottawa
Maybe you don’t know what “for sure means” though?
- jdfitz77

Weird. They’re pretty great this year with a pretty similar roster.

Almost as if losing 3 key D men around playoff time hurt their chances.

But no, you’re always right

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Posted just now
Some of the old-timers on here (can't believe it's been 14 years), probably remember this one.



Bills are ready to draft their QB of the future, with Drew Bledsoe's best days behind him. They are sitting at Pick #13.

There are considered to be 3 top QB prospects in the draft. Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger.



The Bills have admitted they really wanted Roethlisberger. And based on most of the mock drafts, it's totally realistic that he falls to us. But General Manager Tom Donahoe decided to sit on his hands instead of trading up a few spots to secure the guy he wanted. The Steelers surprised everyone by snatching him at #11, two spots ahead of our pick. Our front office settled for Lee Evans at #13 and then went into panic mode. They traded away the next year's #1 pick to move ahead of Green Bay and take the best option of the second tier... JP Losman.



We ended up giving up a king's ransom anyway, and still got a lesser prospect. Roethlisberger went on to win multiple Super Bowls, while Losman was a massive bust.

So my generation has to suffer like you guys lmao

Haha (frank) me

Weird. They’re pretty great this year with a pretty similar roster.

Almost as if losing 3 key D men around playoff time hurt their chances.

But no, you’re always right
- sbroads24

Never said that either
You keep twisting words like u do stats
Whatever fits your narrative sir

Remind me...
how did the “great” Boston Bruins do in the playoffs last year?

No, great teams don’t lose in the first round

I forgot that PPs don’t count...
my bad

Chicago is outshooting us 28-18
But it’s tied
So i guess that stat doesn’t matter...
- jdfitz77

I find it hard to believe you’re actually this misinformed

Never said that either
You keep twisting words like u do stats
Whatever fits your narrative sir

Remind me...
how did the “great” Boston Bruins do in the playoffs last year?

No, great teams don’t lose in the first round
- jdfitz77

You’re right, a 7 game series is a better gauge of team performance than an 82 game sample.

Holy hell youre on fire

I find it hard to believe you’re actually this misinformed
- sbroads24

Just using your logic against you

Bc u know if we were up 28-18 in faceoffs that you’d point it out

all ill say with ROR is that if the first thing people bring up about you is your faceoff abilities, you're probably not worth 7.5 mil
- Sabresfan-365

How about consistent 20g, ~60p center who plays in every situation? Take away the name, and what are you paying for that? At least 6m on a second contract. So is it worth quibbling over $1m?

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So my generation has to suffer like you guys lmao

Haha (frank) me
- gerbe75pts

Will you stop?

The draft is still 6 weeks away

Sheesh

I am willing to bet that none of these QBs have as good careers as Big Ben they might be statically better than Eli but you need to step off the ledge

Even though u don’t post about Corsi stats anymore bc everyone rips u for it...
i know you’re a big proponent of “possession”

Winning the faceoff gives you possession
Does it not?

Also...
pretty damn hard to score if u don’t have the puck

It’s not rocket science
- jdfitz77

actually, there have been a few studies done where the results are it has no impact on possession in large sample sizes.

You’re right, a 7 game series is a better gauge of team performance than an 82 game sample.

Holy hell youre on fire
- sbroads24

Excuses, excuses
Not like Boston had 110pts last year
Did they even crack 100?

EDIT
Hahahahahahahaha
You’re right...
GREAT teams make the playoffs by ONE POINT
and then lose in the 1st round

Hahahahahahahahaha

actually, there have been a few studies done where the results are it has no impact on possession in large sample sizes.
- Gramps28

This won’t register with him

actually, there have been a few studies done where the results are it has no impact on possession in large sample sizes.
- Gramps28

Impact on shots
But that’s bc of all the blocked/deflected shots
And of course, turnovers happen

Still better to win the draw & have the puck than it is to be chasing it

With 10 seconds left,
down by 1...

Do u wanna win the faceoff?
Yes or no
- jdfitz77

yes, how many times have we been in that scenario this year? What if we spent 7.5 mil on an actual game changer and had a fourth line guy at 1 mil who could take draws?

It's value as an actual skill set is overstated imo.


it's like paying big money for a guy who's good at blocking shots

Im starting to think moving up further in the draft to 2 might set this franchise back.

I don’t feel any QB is worth what we will need to trade
- sbroads24

Damn you know what that cost will be to move ugh. Jets traded 3 2nds to move down three spots. To move down 10 spots we will need to trade both 1sts both 2nd and prob a 1 next year. Crazy.

How about consistent 20g, ~60p center who plays in every situation? Take away the name, and what are you paying for that? At least 6m on a second contract. So is it worth quibbling over $1m?
- jcragcrumple

It obviously is for some

yes, how many times have we been in that scenario this year? What if we spent 7.5 mil on an actual game changer and had a fourth line guy at 1 mil who could take draws?

It's value as an actual skill set is overstated imo.


it's like paying big money for a guy who's good at blocking shots
- Sabresfan-365

What if this team had contributions from guys not named Eichel, ROR, Risto, Scandella and Reinhart