yes, how many times have we been in that scenario this year? What if we spent 7.5 mil on an actual game changer and had a fourth line guy at 1 mil who could take draws?

It's value as an actual skill set is overstated imo.

it's like paying big money for a guy who's good at blocking shots
- Sabresfan-365

But if faceoffs don’t matter,
then why do u want to win it?

What if this team had contributions from guys not named Eichel, ROR, Risto, Scandella and Reinhart
- jcragcrumple

Oh please

Also wilson, rodrigues and Benoit balls have been producing at bottom 6 average rates. The problem is at the top im not sure how this is still a thing.

Impact on shots
But that’s bc of all the blocked/deflected shots
And of course, turnovers happen

Still better to win the draw & have the puck than it is to be chasing it
- jdfitz77

I’ve actually read multiple articles on this.

My opinion is based on them. Not out of hate for O’Reilly

You should really do the same because almost everything you’ve said on it is incorrect

mjt328 131 mjt328




So my generation has to suffer like you guys lmao

Haha (frank) me
- gerbe75pts

looking back in hindsight


what is the difference between phillip rivers and any daulton?

But if faceoffs don’t matter,
then why do u want to win it?
- jdfitz77

because its slightly better than losing it? I dont understand your point. Mine is that this marginal advantage doesnt make ROR some irreplaceable player.

Damn you know what that cost will be to move ugh. Jets traded 3 nds to move down three spots. To move down 10 spots we will need to trade both 1sts both 2nd and prob a 1 next year. Crazy.
- Fattony1187

I kept saying that it would cost a lot more than everyone thought...

jack eichel and team canada ROR is going to get us 31st place in year 3

#youneedgoodcenterstowinintheNHL

I’ve actually read multiple articles on this.

My opinion is based on them. Not out of hate for O’Reilly

You should really do the same because almost everything you’ve said on it is incorrect
- sbroads24

Well Chicago just scored... so i guess Corsi matters again

Who won that faceoff?

I kept saying that it would cost a lot more than everyone thought...
- jdfitz77

I also said that. Said QBs cost more. Philly paid a big price, rams for rg3. Supply and demand. Plus you need that team to even want to trade. If they don’t your out of luck. Browns giants and jets may all take QBs

because its slightly better than losing it? I dont understand your point. Mine is that this marginal advantage doesnt make ROR some irreplaceable player.
- Sabresfan-365

It’s been lost on me for a while now

I kept saying that it would cost a lot more than everyone thought...
- jdfitz77

based on today, I stand pat

maybe draft mayfield or ruldolph and take a flier on another qb in the 6th rd

because its slightly better than losing it? I dont understand your point. Mine is that this marginal advantage doesnt make ROR some irreplaceable player.
- Sabresfan-365

I never brought up ROR
You did

I said faceoffs matter
Sbroads says they don’t
U seem to flip flop a bit on the issue

I also said that. Said QBs cost more. Philly paid a big price, rams for rg3. Supply and demand. Plus you need that team to even want to trade. If they don’t your out of luck. Browns giants and jets may all take QBs
- Fattony1187

and the rams qb was 1 and done in the playoffs and the eagle qb was on crutches for the super bowl

So organ music played at the game today:

Gilligan's island theme
"I think we're alone now"

I never brought up ROR
You did

I said faceoffs matter
Sbroads says they don’t
U seem to flip flop a bit on the issue
- jdfitz77

31st place

based on today, I stand pat

maybe draft mayfield or ruldolph and take a flier on another qb in the 6th rd
- homiedclown

You could see Darnold/Rosen/mayfield and go 1-3.

I never brought up ROR
You did

I said faceoffs matter
Sbroads says they don’t
U seem to flip flop a bit on the issue
- jdfitz77

Situationally. They. Can. Matter.

For the 10th time

Over. A. Large. Sample. They. Are. Meaningless.

Will you stop?

The draft is still 6 weeks away

Sheesh

I am willing to bet that none of these QBs have as good careers as Big Ben they might be statically better than Eli but you need to step off the ledge
- Stripes77

Yet you have teams trying to move up and draft one ..

Such a weak class

I never brought up ROR
You did

I said faceoffs matter
Sbroads says they don’t
U seem to flip flop a bit on the issue
- jdfitz77

no, i just think you chose to ignore everything i wrote after i said "yes"

I think faceoffs importance is overvalued, not that there isnt any. And i bring it up in terms of RORs value because if thats your thing when raking in 7.5 mil, that's a problem

You could see Darnold/Rosen/mayfield and go 1-3.
- Fattony1187

And we end up with the JP EJ Manuel special

Oh please

Also wilson, rodrigues and Benoit balls have been producing at bottom 6 average rates. TheSince the start of the 2012 season, there have been 910 single-game instances of a team winning at least 60 percent of face-offs (there have been 10,616 total games, so teams have gone 60 percent on face-offs or better 8.57 percent of the time). Of those 910 instances, the team that won at least 60 percent of face-offs won 476 times, or 52.3 percent. problem is at the top im not sure how this is still a thing.
- Sabresfan-365

The problem is there are 3 top 6 players and 3 bottom six players, and 6 marginal NHLers

I also said that. Said QBs cost more. Philly paid a big price, rams for rg3. Supply and demand. Plus you need that team to even want to trade. If they don’t your out of luck. Browns giants and jets may all take QBs
- Fattony1187

If we can’t trade up to #2...

I’d much rather just take Rudolph at 22 (or later) than i would take Jackson or Allen if he falls

based on today, I stand pat

maybe draft mayfield or ruldolph and take a flier on another qb in the 6th rd
- homiedclown

We have ignored the QB position for how long?

Rinse and repeat

It’s been lost on me for a while now
- sbroads24

Tied up...
looks like we’re back to Corsi not mattering

Did we win a faceoff there?

And we end up with the JP EJ Manuel special
- gerbe75pts

Nothing we can go about it. Need a top 3 pick for those good guys. Those teams all won 3 or less games. We were a playoff team.