The problem is there are 3 top 6 players and 3 bottom six players, and 6 marginal NHLers
- jcragcrumple

Agreed, but i wonder which hurts the team more. having below average 13 min a night players or below average(relative to that role) 20-25 min a night players

We have ignored the QB position for how long?

Rinse and repeat
- gerbe75pts

Who says we are ignoring it this year??

based on today, I stand pat

maybe draft mayfield or ruldolph and take a flier on another qb in the 6th rd
- homiedclown

I think that guy is still Petersen for us
Maybe we get lucky & Mayfield drops?
Miami might scoop him up at 11 though

31st place
- homiedclown

If you’re gonna say that about ROR,
can’t leave out Jack

Agreed, but i wonder which hurts the team more. having below average 13 min a night players or below average(relative to that role) 20-25 min a night players
- Sabresfan-365

Paying 20 mil for Bogo, Pominville, Gorges and Moulson hurts most

Nothing we can go about it. Need a top 3 pick for those good guys. Those teams all won 3 or less games. We were a playoff team.
- Fattony1187

I just can't believe the jets (frank)ed us ..

I was thinking theres no way the bills can (frank) this pick
up you have Mayfield ,Sam, Rosen win-win situation

Ugh

J!E!T!S!

Who says we are ignoring it this year??
- Fattony1187

I don't want Rudolph or Allen or Lamar Jackson

If you’re gonna say that about ROR,
can’t leave out Jack
- jdfitz77

Donate your brain to science please

Paying 20 mil for Bogo, Pominville, Gorges and Moulson hurts most
- jcragcrumple

yeah fair enough. you've got 2 guys getting top 4-ish money who are AHL d-men. But thats part of the assembled core problem.

Situationally. They. Can. Matter.

For the 10th time

Over. A. Large. Sample. They. Are. Meaningless.
- sbroads24

Hockey is all about how situations add up though

Why would u wanna win a faceoff with 10seconds left,
but not 10min left?
It’s the same thing

Will it turn into a scoring chance?
Sometimes
Most times it won’t, i get that
Blocked/deflected shots are crazy prevalent

I’d still rather have the puck than be chasing it though
Idk how u don’t get that?

Impact on shots
But that’s bc of all the blocked/deflected shots
And of course, turnovers happen

Still better to win the draw & have the puck than it is to be chasing it
- jdfitz77

Right. No impact then. You're agreeing with me and are failing to recognize it. Possession is measured by SAT. Not SOG.

no, i just think you chose to ignore everything i wrote after i said "yes"

I think faceoffs importance is overvalued, not that there isnt any. And i bring it up in terms of RORs value because if thats your thing when raking in 7.5 mil, that's a problem
- Sabresfan-365

Everything u brought up after had nothing to do with my question

J!E!T!S!
- feetontheair22

Gave up a bunch of assets for a QB they could have taken at 6.

I don't want Rudolph or Allen or Lamar Jackson
- gerbe75pts

So your saying we should ignore QB again?

I just can't believe the jets (frank)ed us ..

I was thinking theres no way the bills can (frank) this pick
up you have Mayfield ,Sam, Rosen win-win situation

Ugh
- gerbe75pts

Gave up a bunch of assets for a QB they could have taken at 6.
- Gramps28

Hi Gramps

Agreed, but i wonder which hurts the team more. having below average 13 min a night players or below average(relative to that role) 20-25 min a night players
- Sabresfan-365

Balance helps
When u have good guys who can play more than 13min...
then ROR and others don’t need to be overplayed

Look at Vegas (specifically their defense)

jack eichel and team canada ROR is going to get us 31st place in year 3

#youneedgoodcenterstowinintheNHL
- homiedclown

Good centers don't make your supporting players not sh!tty.

They can help them to appear less sh!tty, however.

How's McDavid and Draisaitl doing?

We have ignored the QB position for how long?

Rinse and repeat
- gerbe75pts

Might not be able to trade up to #2

Gave up a bunch of assets for a QB they could have taken at 6.
- Gramps28

To me it seems like Cleveland and giants are taking QBs at 1-2. Jets had to make the move to 3 to get one of top 3. Prob offered a pick to giants and they said no because Giants are dumb to pass this pick up to draft the QB of their future.

We have ignored the QB position for how long?

Rinse and repeat
- gerbe75pts

Super Bowl 1. Bart Starr (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 2. Bart Starr (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 3. Joe Namath (MVP), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 4. Len Dawson (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 5. John Unitas (Chuck Howley), 1 TD
Super Bowl 6. Roger Staubach (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 7. Bob Griese (Jake Scott), 1 TD
Super Bowl 8. Bob Griese (Larry Csonka), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 9. Terry Bradshaw (Franco Harris), 1 TD
Super Bowl 10. Terry Bradshaw (Lynn Swann), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 11. Ken Stabler (Fred Biletnikoff), 1 TD
Super Bowl 12. Roger Staubach (Harvey Martin & Randy White), 1 TDs
Super Bowl 13. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 14. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 15. Jim Plunkett (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 16. Joe Montana (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 17. Joe Theismann (John Riggins), 2 TDs,
Super Bowl 18. Jim Plunkett (Marcus Allen), 1 TD
Super Bowl 19. Joe Montana (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 20. Jim McMahon (Richard Dent), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 21. Phil Simms (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 22. Doug Williams (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 23. Joe Montana (Jerry Rice), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 24. Joe Montana (MVP), 5 TDs
Super Bowl 25. Jeff Hostetler (Ottis Anderson), 1 TD
Super Bowl 26. Mark Rypien (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs
Super Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs
Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD
Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 48: Russell Wilson (Malcolm Smith), 2TDs
Super Bowl 49: Tom Brady (MVP), 4TDs
Super Bowl 50: Peyton Manning (Von Miller), 0TDs
Super Bowl 51: Tom Brady (MVP), 2TDs


how many qb's were not picked in the top 10, vs picked in the top 10?


that's your history lesson for the day

Damn that's a bouncy puck today. you would think it's made of rubber.

Right. No impact then. You're agreeing with me and are failing to recognize it. Possession is measured by SAT. Not SOG.
- Gramps28

Possession is measured by time with the puck

Hockey is all about how situations add up though

Why would u wanna win a faceoff with 10seconds left,
but not 10min left?
It’s the same thing

Will it turn into a scoring chance?
Sometimes
Most times it won’t, i get that
Blocked/deflected shots are crazy prevalent

I’d still rather have the puck than be chasing it though
Idk how u don’t get that?
- jdfitz77

How do I not get that?

Win every battle you can, sure.

That doesn’t mean it has ANY effect on us winning games over the course of the season.