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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
I just can't believe the jets (frank)ed us ..

I was thinking theres no way the bills can (frank) this pick
up you have Mayfield ,Sam, Rosen win-win situation

Ugh

- gerbe75pts


No the goal was Rosen , Mayfield, Sam
We failed right now currently

Those other guys are just JP losman, EJ Manuel's, Jake lockers , Tyrod Taylor's

- gerbe75pts


Let's go on that 5 game winning streak so we can (frank) up the draft
- gerbe75pts


This. This is why I come by.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
Eichel’s role and salary match up.
O’Reilly’s does now, but not down the road.

O’Reilly is not good enough offensively to be your second best forward.

They need another high skilled guy who’s capable of 65-70 points. That’s not ROR

If they do get deeper, and O’Reilly’s role decreases, then your paying top 30 $$ for a guy who’s not even on your top line

- sbroads24


Still to be determined
I have doubts that his role would drop to the point where he’s scoring 40pts


And for the record...
i have said I’m open to trading O’Reilly
But if we do it now,
That’s A LOT to ask of Mittelstadt
Ppl act like he’s gonna step right in & produce like Barzal RIGHT AWAY
He might not
And if that’s the case, we’d be screwed

I don’t think RORs value will drop if we hang onto him for another year or 2
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Mar 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
Eichel’s role and salary match up.
O’Reilly’s does now, but not down the road.

O’Reilly is not good enough offensively to be your second best forward.

They need another high skilled guy who’s capable of 65-70 points. That’s not ROR

If they do get deeper, and O’Reilly’s role decreases, then your paying top 30 $$ for a guy who’s not even on your top line

- sbroads24



I’m just asking, don’t know. How many #2 centers have more points then O’reilly. I would think he’s right in the mix for #2 centers in the league. That’s what, center 30-60?

Someone said on here he’s the #27th scoring center. How is that not scoring enough for a #2. Seems like he’s actually an above avg scorer for his position. Also plays at least above average defense. Not elite but is solid.

He is not the issue. Plus his salary at end of contract will prob be avg for a #2 center.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
The team wins and everyone becomes even more of a whiny c*nt.....
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:11 PM ET
I’m just asking, don’t know. How many #2 centers have more points then O’reilly. I would think he’s right in the mix for #2 centers in the league. That’s what, center 30-60?

Someone said on here he’s the #27th scoring center. How is that not scoring enough for a #2. Seems like he’s actually an above avg scorer for his position. Also plays at least above average defense. Not elite but is solid.

He is not the issue. Plus his salary at end of contract will prob be avg for a #2 center.

- Fattony1187


Preach on brotha man!
O’Reilly is NOT the problem
He’s not even A problem
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Mar 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:17 PM ET

- jcragcrumple


I’ve stayed on the Baptiste & Bailey bandwagon all along
(Maybe I’m up to 3% Boss?)

A lot still to be determined...
but I’m still thinking they can both be decent players for us

Baptiste in particular should at least get a shot with Jack before we pidgin-hole (sp?) him as a 4th liner
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Mar 17 @ 4:18 PM ET
I’ve stayed on the Baptiste & Bailey bandwagon all along
(Maybe I’m up to 3% Boss?)

A lot still to be determined...
but I’m still thinking they can both be decent players for us

Baptiste in particular should at least get a shot with Jack before we pidgin-hole (sp?) him as a 4th liner

- jdfitz77



Baptiste would 100% get 20g a year playing with Jack. Sign a 3rd line center (Desharnais?) To play with Okposo
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 17 @ 4:18 PM ET
I’m just asking, don’t know. How many #2 centers have more points then O’reilly. I would think he’s right in the mix for #2 centers in the league. That’s what, center 30-60?

Someone said on here he’s the #27th scoring center. How is that not scoring enough for a #2. Seems like he’s actually an above avg scorer for his position. Also plays at least above average defense. Not elite but is solid.

He is not the issue. Plus his salary at end of contract will prob be avg for a #2 center.

- Fattony1187

I don’t think he’s a problem. I think he’s over rated. Still a good player.

Problem with labeling him a 2c is the fact that his ice time says franchise center, and his 5 on 5 production says average 3rd liner.

He has the same amount of 5 on 5 points as

Jared Spurgeon
Max Domi
Sven Baertchi
Jake Muzzin
Brian Gibbons

He’s 12th among centers in 5 on 5 ice time. And trails his peers in 5 on 5 points by a wide margin

Most of the players around him in terms of ice time, double his production
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 17 @ 4:25 PM ET
I don’t think he’s a problem. I think he’s over rated. Still a good player.

Problem with labeling him a 2c is the fact that his ice time says franchise center, and his 5 on 5 production says average 3rd liner.

He has the same amount of 5 on 5 points as

Jared Spurgeon
Max Domi
Sven Baertchi
Jake Muzzin
Brian Gibbons

He’s 12th among centers in 5 on 5 ice time. And trails his peers in 5 on 5 points by a wide margin

Most of the players around him in terms of ice time, double his production

- sbroads24



Our whole team sucks 5v5
Lots of guys would have worse numbers if they were here instead of Tampa, Winnipeg, etc

As our team gets better,
a lot of these numbers u focus on will improve as well
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 17 @ 4:30 PM ET
Our whole team sucks 5v5
Lots of guys would have worse numbers if they were here instead of Tampa, Winnipeg, etc

As our team gets better,
a lot of these numbers u focus on will improve as well

- jdfitz77

I think they will get better. But it shows he doesn’t create offense on his own. Which for that $, he should.

I think he’s a good player, but when this team gets more dynamic and skilled, I think he will be pushed off PP1, and probably see a dip in his points
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 17 @ 4:33 PM ET
If you're going to shorten it technically it's Paddy's day (so says my extremely Irish wife)
- Stripes77


It's not "Patrick" either. Paddy is short for Padraig.

Edit: Late, (frank)
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Mar 17 @ 4:33 PM ET
I think they will get better. But it shows he doesn’t create offense on his own. Which for that $, he should.

I think he’s a good player, but when this team gets more dynamic and skilled, I think he will be pushed off PP1, and probably see a dip in his points

- sbroads24



He has made Wilson better. Ain't nobody making Girgensons better
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
It's not "Patrick" either. Paddy is short for Padraig.

Edit: Late, (frank)

- Wetbandit1



Haha believe me my wife's family informed me
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
Still to be determined
I have doubts that his role would drop to the point where he’s scoring 40pts


- jdfitz77


RoR off the 1st PP is a 40 point player right now. It's going to happen eventually.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
That's why it's called the paddy wagon.

So paddy wagon is a racist term - best not to use it anymore.

Kinda like if someone ripped you off - don't use the term gypped - it's a negative connotation to Gypsies - which of course you aren't allowed to say anymore - it's Roma.

Which is why I mostly just drink alone - no fear of offending anyone.

Except my neighbours when I pee in my backyard.

- Atomic Wedgie

I feel like the Bills really got roma‘d by that Jets trade.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
Im making a new Snapchat I have no idea how long I’m banned
- gerbe75pts


What if I told you I had a SnapChat account for 2 years, but never use it?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 17 @ 4:41 PM ET
I feel like the Bills really got roma‘d by that Jets trade.
- Hatboro_Swords

And the winner of the 2018 Eksy Award for excellence in Hockeybuzz posting goes to...
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Mar 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
RoR off the 1st PP is a 40 point player right now. It's going to happen eventually.
- Lunaion



So when that happens 2-3 years down the line, he'll get 0 pp points on PP2? What about getting him better wingers to make up for that 5-on-5? What about scaling his minutes back so he isn't overextended?

There are many positives to him playing less
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
And the winner of the 2018 Eksy Award for excellence in Hockeybuzz posting goes to...
- Atomic Wedgie

The champagne is popped open over here before the envelope is!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
So when that happens 2-3 years down the line, he'll get 0 pp points on PP2? What about getting him better wingers to make up for that 5-on-5? What about scaling his minutes back so he isn't overextended?

There are many positives to him playing less

- jcragcrumple

No but he won’t even hit 25 5 on 5 points being used as a #1 Center.

It’s not a worry now, but I think there’s an opportunity to sell him at a high point now and get a younger asset
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Mar 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
No but he won’t even hit 25 5 on 5 points being used as a #1 Center.

It’s not a worry now, but I think there’s an opportunity to sell him at a high point now and get a younger asset

- sbroads24



You're purposefully using 5-on-5 instead of even-strength points, which, fine, but there is approximately a 0% chance that a player you get back is as good as him. The PA just voted him a top-5 underrated player. Thankfully, JBJB seems to agree. I don't think he moves
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
You're purposefully using 5-on-5 instead of even-strength points, which, fine, but there is approximately a 0% chance that a player you get back is as good as him. The PA just voted him a top-5 underrated player. Thankfully, JBJB seems to agree. I don't think he moves
- jcragcrumple

He’s 49th among centers in even strength points, despite being 12th in ice time.

That’s not much better
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
You're purposefully using 5-on-5 instead of even-strength points, which, fine, but there is approximately a 0% chance that a player you get back is as good as him. The PA just voted him a top-5 underrated player. Thankfully, JBJB seems to agree. I don't think he moves
- jcragcrumple

There’s a 0% chance we can’t get someone who is as good as a 2nd line center?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 17 @ 5:07 PM ET
After his horrible first half of the season Reinhart needs 8 points to get to 50
- Stripes77

stinks
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