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JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Mar 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
I think Provorov will be a legitimate Norris contender in the near future.
- Pixote Andolini


He will likely need to find a way onto PP1 to even be a finalist. I do agree that he will be fully capable of winning it though
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
Provorov 8th in nhl in goals for defenseman. One of the leaders in ice time. Not one mention for norris.

No respekt

- Tfaehner


I'm not when sure the nhl looks at these facts anymore when you see guys like Subban or Karlsson win the Norris early in their careers.

High Plus/minus, ice time and points should make a clear winner for the Norris, not to mention shot blocks.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 20 @ 12:50 PM ET
I have less confidence in Neuvirth than I do with Lyon at this point.
- johndewar


He has the uncanniest knack for getting hurt when you absolutely need him the most
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
Why is Lehtera in over Leir? Why is Flip on 3rd line instead of Laughton? Come on Hak if we can see this why can't you?
- cousjoe



Lehtera is a better player than Leier is. The Flyers are on their way to a playoff berth and a 100 point season with Filppula in the role he is in. No reason to change. I think the coach sees it how it should be.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 20 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm not when sure the nhl looks at these facts anymore when you see guys like Subban or Karlsson win the Norris early in their careers.

High Plus/minus, ice time and points should make a clear winner for the Norris, not to mention shot blocks.

- SuperSchennBros


I had no problem with Subban, although I thought Letang was more deserving that year. EK is just so damn good offensively that it's hard to ignore. Plus his defensive game has come a long way. But yeah, I prefer guys who excel at both ends over primarily offensive guys.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Mar 20 @ 12:52 PM ET
All depends on cost. We can't afford to give him a lucic contract.
- Tfaehner


I'm not sure they can even afford a home town discount(5x5). With whatever happens, the earliest I'd like to see an extension is after the TDL next season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
He will likely need to find a way onto PP1 to even be a finalist. I do agree that he will be fully capable of winning it though
- JFlyers00



I agree, he is a strong ES point producer but with Gostisbehere on the first unit, Provorov will have difficulty putting up the high offensive numbers needed to get enough notice.
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Mar 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
Lehtera is a better player than Leier is. The Flyers are on their way to a playoff berth and a 100 point season with Filppula in the role he is in. No reason to change. I think the coach sees it how it should be.
- MJL


100 point season is a bit of a stretch. They'd have to win 8 of the next 9 games.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 20 @ 12:58 PM ET
He will likely need to find a way onto PP1 to even be a finalist. I do agree that he will be fully capable of winning it though
- JFlyers00


That won't happen unless Ghost has a long-term injury or they go with a 3F/2D change on the PP.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 12:59 PM ET
100 point season is a bit of a stretch. They'd have to win 8 of the next 9 games.
- Doctor DOOM



You're right, probably a big stretch.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 20 @ 1:00 PM ET
Lehtera has actually been playing well. I have no issue with him. As for Filppula vs. Laughton, they'll both see relatively comparable 5v5 ice time.

If we're arguing over our bottom 2 centers as our #1 problem, I'll live with it.

- jmatchett383


As long as they keep Lehtera "in his lane" and don't give him PP or PK time, I'm cool with Lehtera being in the lineup.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
As long as they keep Lehtera "in his lane" and don't give him PP or PK time, I'm cool with Lehtera being in the lineup.
- johndewar


I don't really like the idea of Lehtera or Filppula on the PP.

Regardless of how the team is playing, it doesn't mean that all of the right decisions are being made and that you shouldn't be looking to improve some things.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
I agree, he is a strong ES point producer but with Gostisbehere on the first unit, Provorov will have difficulty putting up the high offensive numbers needed to get enough notice.
- MJL


As the 2nd unit develops with sanheim provy Patrick tk and lindblom I expect that to have an uptick in points next year. Still not gost pp numbers but maybe +10/15 pp points vs this year
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
I'm not sure they can even afford a home town discount(5x5). With whatever happens, the earliest I'd like to see an extension is after the TDL next season.
- Baxter27


I think the Flyers should make it work. Filppula should be gone this season along with Read. Lehtera next summer. MacDonald has sways to go but when it happens, that's a big lump.

I understand we have to pay Ghost Konecny, Provorov and a couple others but I don't think those deals will break us because I feel their next deals will be bridge gaps.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
As the 2nd unit develops with sanheim provy Patrick tk and lindblom I expect that to have an uptick in points next year. Still not gost pp numbers but maybe +10/15 pp points vs this year
- Tfaehner



I hope so. They could really use some goals from that second unit.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
I think the Flyers should make it work. Filppula should be gone this season along with Read. Lehtera next summer. MacDonald has sways to go but when it happens, that's a big lump.

I understand we have to pay Ghost Konecny, Provorov and a couple others but I don't think those deals will break us because I feel their next deals will be bridge gaps.

- SuperSchennBros


I think they lock Provorov up with a Doughty type of deal.
Ghost is already locked up.
It all depends on what he wants and what happens with the cap.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
Half of this board
- jmatchett383


I knew there was a reason I became a bandwagon fan and only jumped back into this forum when the post-season talk was approaching.

That and my job...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
Lehtera has actually been playing well. I have no issue with him. As for Filppula vs. Laughton, they'll both see relatively comparable 5v5 ice time.

If we're arguing over our bottom 2 centers as our #1 problem, I'll live with it.

- jmatchett383

It is more linemates than ice time that bothers me
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
I knew there was a reason I became a bandwagon fan and only jumped back into this forum when the post-season talk was approaching.

That and my job...

- Lexington Flyer


Signing him will have its risks. It all depends on what he wants and what their cap situation is like. He's no spring chicken, so they can't give him big money long term.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 20 @ 1:14 PM ET
I think they lock Provorov up with a Doughty type of deal.

- jmatchett383


I'd think that would be the minimum he'd get.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 20 @ 1:29 PM ET
I'd think that would be the minimum he'd get.
- Scoob

He hasn't scored 59 points yet. He is probably worth 7 per, but the point totals may keep the price down
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 20 @ 1:31 PM ET
He hasn't scored 59 points yet. He is probably worth 7 per, but the point totals may keep the price down
- YuenglingJagr


Hey, if they can go 8 x 6.5, I'd be thrilled.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 20 @ 1:32 PM ET
@frank_seravalli

NHL GMs have recommended that Hockey Ops (Situation Room in Toronto) takes over final decision for goalie interference challenges. Now in the process of seeking NHLPA approval, as well as NHL Officials Association.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 20 @ 1:33 PM ET
Hey, if they can go 8 x 6.5, I'd be thrilled.
- jmatchett383

We got lucky when Ghost came in at 6 x 4.5 so Provy at those would be excellent
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 20 @ 1:33 PM ET
No way the Ref union allows Toronto that call.
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