Look where that team is.
- manvanfan

Who cares, he has contributed to 49% of his teams goals. That’s pure insanity.

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- Pres.cup

GFY!

Brickley not going to Canada as per TSN

Is EK suggesting a possible Draisaitl for Karlsson trade?

Who cares, he has contributed to 49% of his teams goals. That’s pure insanity.
- CanuckDon

Agree he's got my vote.

Art Ross is for scoring
The Hart for MVP is a whole other matter entirely. A non PO team rarely if ever has an MVP for good reason.

Say NO to McDavid

Hall or Marchand are better picks

Is EK suggesting a possible Draisaitl for Karlsson trade?


- bloatedmosquito

Who cares, he has contributed to 49% of his teams goals. That’s pure insanity.
- CanuckDon

there has been a huge debate recently, because of McDavid's output, as to whether non-playoff contributing players should ever win the Hart. I personally don't think it matters. What McDavid is doing, on a terrible Oilers team, is nothing short of amazing. At the same time, the Hart should not be a direct result of point/goal totals.

Art Ross is for scoring
The Hart for MVP is a whole other matter entirely. A non PO team rarely if ever has an MVP for good reason.

Say NO to McDavid

Hall or Marchand are better picks
- Nighthawk

The Hart has nothing to do with playoffs.

Art Ross is for scoring
The Hart for MVP is a whole other matter entirely. A non PO team rarely if ever has an MVP for good reason.

Say NO to McDavid

Hall or Marchand are better picks
- Nighthawk

- LordHumungous

If we are talking about MVP + playoffs, that's what the Conn Smythe is for

Giroux also is a better Hart pick

The Hart has nothing to do with playoffs.
- Codes1087

Disagree. If Avs make the post-season, Mackinnon wins the Hart over McDavid.

Disagree. If Avs make the post-season, Mackinnon wins the Hart over McDavid.
- neem55

it literally has nothing to do with the playoffs though. It is a regular season award.

MacKinnon is also another worthy winner

If we are talking about MVP + playoffs, that's what the Conn Smythe is for
- Codes1087

Precisely.

it literally has nothing to do with the playoffs though. It is a regular season award.
- Codes1087

Making the post-season, is literally the goal of the regular season.

Making the post-season, is literally the goal of the regular season.
- neem55

you are talking about an individual regular season award though. We aren't talking team goals. Either way, for the sake of the thread, I will just say that I will agree to disagree.

it literally has nothing to do with the playoffs though. It is a regular season award.
- Codes1087

Taking a team to the PO’s on ones back has everything to do with winning the MVP

Taking a team to the PO’s on ones back has everything to do with winning the MVP
- Nighthawk

again, I will agree to disagree, for the sake of the thread, instead of going on about this.

you are talking about an individual regular season award though. We aren't talking team goals. Either way, for the sake of the thread, I will just say that I will agree to disagree.
- Codes1087

Art Ross is an INDIVIDUAL award.
The Hart is what a player means & does for his team & scoring is not the only factor.

there has been a huge debate recently, because of McDavid's output, as to whether non-playoff contributing players should ever win the Hart. I personally don't think it matters. What McDavid is doing, on a terrible Oilers team, is nothing short of amazing. At the same time, the Hart should not be a direct result of point/goal totals.
- Codes1087

Its a tough debate. On one hand, its an individual award and the performance of McDavid has been remarkable. As Don says, involvement on 49% of the team's offense? Crazy

On the other hand, the award is given to the most valuable to its team, which you could make the case brings in the team's success into discussion. Without Mackinnon or Hall their teams are no where near the playoffs, which is considered a benchmark achievement, while Oilers still miss

McDavid makes it tough because he's having an amazing season, but personally I still lean towards Hall, as he has score big and timely goals getting his team valuable points in the standings

Its a tough debate. On one hand, its an individual award and the performance of McDavid has been remarkable. As Don says, involvement on 49% of the team's offense? Crazy

On the other hand, the award is given to the most valuable to its team, which you could make the case brings in the team's success into discussion. Without Mackinnon or Hall their teams are no where near the playoffs, which is considered a benchmark achievement, while Oilers still miss

McDavid makes it tough because he's having an amazing season, but personally I still lean towards Hall, as he has score big and timely goals getting his team valuable points in the standings
- WhiteLie

I in no way think that Hall and McKinnon don't deserve nominations, or even don't deserve the Hart. They are having incredible seasons, and are absolutely worthy. I also think Marchand is in the running. I just personally don't think McDavid should be ruled out of the conversation, because he absolutely ridiculous.

- LordHumungous

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see oilers trade away Draisaitl. Self-destruction complete.

again, I will agree to disagree, for the sake of the thread, instead of going on about this.
- Codes1087

What else are we going to talk about? Whether someone's draft rankings changed from yesterday? Gaudette's holdout? Or 2020 roster lineups?