Who is still waiver eligible next year?

And u may be right...
but i don’t see the value in sending someone down like Smith or O’Regan,
so we can sign another “Pouliot” who’s an average NHLer & not gonna be part of our future
- jdfitz77

I know you use CapFriendly, and it looks like you saw that Smith and O'Regan are exempt next year.

I like the Pouliot move a lot and expect more similar moves. They are good gambles. You can't come into camp projecting Baptiste, Bailey, and Fasching all in your opening night lineup. Ideally, you trade one before you even get to camp. If you don't, you don't fear losing Fasching to the waiver wire, if he doesn't earn a spot.

There's no question in my mind that they view some of these guys as depth players.

I believe it was pro rated
- Stripes77

It was, I'm almost positive it's against the CBA for an ELC to be paid out in full, other 2-way deals work the same way, if a guy spends time with the big club he gets his NHL salary for the days he's up, that's why you see paper moves a lot. If a team doesn't play for 4 days they'll send a guy down on paper until the next game where he'll be brought back up, all the while the guy never leaves town, so they save on the cap.

It's kind of poopty for the player that they only make their AHL celery for when they're "down" even though they're with the NHL team, but they do get other incidentals if I remember correctly, lodging, rental car, stuff like that.

Mike Rodak ESPN Staff Writer

Asked about the depth at wide receiver, Bills coach Sean McDermott told reporters at the owners meetings Tuesday, "I like what we've got on our roster. I think there is ability there. We believe in those guys. Some are more household names than others. There are some young guys we are anxious to take a look at this spring and get them into Brian Daboll's system. I'm excited about that. And then our position in the draft, we're strategically at a good place now, and we'll see how that situation plays itself out."




- homiedclown

The more I look at it the more I like the move to 12 even if they can't swing a deal for a top pick. It literally cost a guy who was an anchor, and not the good kind, and they were trying to move anyway, and they were able to move up 9 spots. That's a huge win, and if they use that pick to move up further, it's even bigger.

The more I look at it the more I like the move to 12 even if they can't swing a deal for a top pick. It literally cost a guy who was an anchor, and not the good kind, and they were trying to move anyway, and they were able to move up 9 spots. That's a huge win, and if they use that pick to move up further, it's even bigger.
- Wetbandit1

getting rid of tyrod, fat butt I and fat butt II was the best thing for this franchise IMO

I know you use CapFriendly, and it looks like you saw that Smith and O'Regan are exempt next year.

I like the Pouliot move a lot and expect more similar moves. They are good gambles. You can't come into camp projecting Baptiste, Bailey, and Fasching in your opening night lineup. Ideally, you trade one before you even get to camp. If you don't, you don't fear losing Fasching to the waiver wire, if he doesn't earn a spot.
- Lunaion

Someone on here had previously said that Smith & O’Regan would have to clear waivers
I didn’t check up on it,
just assumed it to be true
That does help make some room if we can send them down

Without arguing about who is on what line...

Okposo-Eichel-Zadina/Svechnikov
Wilson-O’Reilly-Reinhart
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Bailey-Rodrigues-Baptiste
Larsson
Fasching

So that definitely means at least 1 guy (probably 2) has to go if we are bringing anyone in like a “Pouliot”

For me...
i think I’d rather let guys like Bailey, Rodrigues & Baptiste try to work there way up the lines, as opposed to bringing back Pouliot or anyone like him

We aren’t making the playoffs next year
So the development of young guys is more important than bringing someone in for a year who isn’t part of the future
Maybe those guys i mentioned aren’t either, but they’ve looked good enough to me to get a shot

I don’t see the short term or (more importantly) long term value to having guys like “Pouliot” on the roster next year

Why do u wanna bring guys like that in?

The more I look at it the more I like the move to 12 even if they can't swing a deal for a top pick. It literally cost a guy who was an anchor, and not the good kind, and they were trying to move anyway, and they were able to move up 9 spots. That's a huge win, and if they use that pick to move up further, it's even bigger.
- Wetbandit1

For sure
If we traded him on his own,
what would we have gotten?
A 3rd round pick? Maybe?

Whatever the return,
it likely wouldn’t have been enough to move us up 9 spots in the 1st round

So however it plays out from here...
good trade

I know you use CapFriendly, and it looks like you saw that Smith and O'Regan are exempt next year.

I like the Pouliot move a lot and expect more similar moves. They are good gambles. You can't come into camp projecting Baptiste, Bailey, and Fasching all in your opening night lineup. Ideally, you trade one before you even get to camp. If you don't, you don't fear losing Fasching to the waiver wire, if he doesn't earn a spot.

There's no question in my mind that they view some of these guys as depth players.
- Lunaion

Are u Shibbal?

Someone on here had previously said that Smith & O’Regan would have to clear waivers
I didn’t check up on it,
just assumed it to be true
That does help make some room if we can send them down

Without arguing about who is on what line...

Okposo-Eichel-Zadina/Svechnikov
Wilson-O’Reilly-Reinhart
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Bailey-Rodrigues-Baptiste
Larsson
Fasching

So that definitely means at least 1 guy (probably 2) has to go if we are bringing anyone in like a “Pouliot”

For me...
i think I’d rather let guys like Bailey, Rodrigues & Baptiste try to work there way up the lines, as opposed to bringing back Pouliot or anyone like him

We aren’t making the playoffs next year
So the development of young guys is more important than bringing someone in for a year who isn’t part of the future
Maybe those guys i mentioned aren’t either, but they’ve looked good enough to me to get a shot

I don’t see the short term or (more importantly) long term value to having guys like “Pouliot” on the roster next year

Why do u wanna bring guys like that in?
- jdfitz77

Nice post,

As much as Ill think you're right, I REALLY hope Bott's has a plan to move an older established vet on this team.

That roster is the ugly girl in the beginning of a 90's high school romance movie...

I grew up with 2 older sisters

I grew up with 2 older sisters
- washedup20

pictures?

asking for a friend

It was, I'm almost positive it's against the CBA for an ELC to be paid out in full, other 2-way deals work the same way, if a guy spends time with the big club he gets his NHL salary for the days he's up, that's why you see paper moves a lot. If a team doesn't play for 4 days they'll send a guy down on paper until the next game where he'll be brought back up, all the while the guy never leaves town, so they save on the cap.

It's kind of poopty for the player that they only make their AHL celery for when they're "down" even though they're with the NHL team, but they do get other incidentals if I remember correctly, lodging, rental car, stuff like that.
- Wetbandit1

A person with direct knowledge of Smith’s contract revealed its value to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity Thursday because the team hasn’t released that figure. The person says Smith will make $925,000 in both years, including the final 10 days of this season.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ith-entry-level-contract/

Hey, WTF I wanted in!
- Wetbandit1

Yeah, sureee

Nice post,

As much as Ill think you're right, I REALLY hope Bott's has a plan to move an older established vet on this team.

That roster is the ugly girl in the beginning of a 90's high school romance movie...

I grew up with 2 older sisters
- washedup20

Love me some Rachel Leigh Cook
Hahaha!

As far as Botts’ plan going forward...
I sure hope it involves giving guys like Bailey, Smith, O’Regan, etc some playing time to develop,
as opposed to seeing more of guys like Pouliot, Nolan, Josefson, Criscuolo, Griffith, Tennyson, Redmond...

If they aren’t a potential part of the future,
then i don’t want them here next year

Yeah, that also includes moving guys like Pommer, Bogosian, Okposo? and whoever else Botts doesn’t see here
Even O’Reilly (although i like him)...
ROR could also be an exception to what I’m saying though if they don’t wanna throw Mittelstadt right into 2C duty

Time to throw these kids into the pool
See who sinks & who swims
Enough of this treading water

A person with direct knowledge of Smith’s contract revealed its value to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity Thursday because the team hasn’t released that figure. The person says Smith will make $925,000 in both years, including the final 10 days of this season.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ith-entry-level-contract/
- gerbe75pts

I don’t see how they could do that,
unless they wrote it up in a way where he got a huge bonus for that 1st year

pictures?

asking for a friend
- homiedclown

- washedup20

Someone on here had previously said that Smith & O’Regan would have to clear waivers
I didn’t check up on it,
just assumed it to be true
That does help make some room if we can send them down

Without arguing about who is on what line...

Okposo-Eichel-Zadina/Svechnikov
Wilson-O’Reilly-Reinhart
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Bailey-Rodrigues-Baptiste
Larsson
Fasching

So that definitely means at least 1 guy (probably 2) has to go if we are bringing anyone in like a “Pouliot”

For me...
i think I’d rather let guys like Bailey, Rodrigues & Baptiste try to work there way up the lines, as opposed to bringing back Pouliot or anyone like him

We aren’t making the playoffs next year
So the development of young guys is more important than bringing someone in for a year who isn’t part of the future
Maybe those guys i mentioned aren’t either, but they’ve looked good enough to me to get a shot

I don’t see the short term or (more importantly) long term value to having guys like “Pouliot” on the roster next year

Why do u wanna bring guys like that in?
- jdfitz77

If someone like Bailey or Baptiste falls on his face, you have an NHL vet on the cheap, that you can play on almost any line.

If Bailey Baptiste etc do well, you waive Pouliot.

It’s a no risk, low reward

If someone like Bailey or Baptiste falls on his face, you have an NHL vet on the cheap, that you can play on almost any line.

If Bailey Baptiste etc do well, you waive Pouliot.

It’s a no risk, low reward
- sbroads24

wow exciting, hopefully i can pay $75 a seat for that kind of approach.

Someone on here had previously said that Smith & O’Regan would have to clear waivers
I didn’t check up on it,
just assumed it to be true
That does help make some room if we can send them down

Without arguing about who is on what line...

Okposo-Eichel-Zadina/Svechnikov
Wilson-O’Reilly-Reinhart
Girgensons-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Bailey-Rodrigues-Baptiste
Larsson
Fasching

So that definitely means at least 1 guy (probably 2) has to go if we are bringing anyone in like a “Pouliot”

For me...
i think I’d rather let guys like Bailey, Rodrigues & Baptiste try to work there way up the lines, as opposed to bringing back Pouliot or anyone like him

We aren’t making the playoffs next year
So the development of young guys is more important than bringing someone in for a year who isn’t part of the future
Maybe those guys i mentioned aren’t either, but they’ve looked good enough to me to get a shot

I don’t see the short term or (more importantly) long term value to having guys like “Pouliot” on the roster next year

Why do u wanna bring guys like that in?
- jdfitz77

I think some people are over-rating the prospect quality of Baptiste, Bailey, Fasching, Smith, O'Reagan, Olofsson, etc. Most of these guys are 2nd and 3rd tier prospects, with bottom 6 projections. It looks like Baptiste has stepped to the front of that pack, and he's shown the most of that group. He still looks like a 3rd line guy to me.

So, you take a chance at guys like Pouliot because they need to put a better team on the ice next year and they have a better chance at being good players. Keep in mind, a stronger wave of prospects is starting to sign with the organization. Depth guys get their chances. ERod and Nelson took full advantage of theirs.

[quote=sbroads24]If someone like Bailey or Baptiste falls on his face, you have an NHL vet on the cheap, that you can play on almost any line.

If Bailey Baptiste etc do well, you waive Pouliot.

It’s a no risk, low reward
- washedup20

wow exciting, hopefully i can pay $75 a seat for that kind of approach.

I don’t think people are renewing their season tickets based on how electrifying Nick Baptiste is

If someone like Bailey or Baptiste falls on his face, you have an NHL vet on the cheap, that you can play on almost any line.

If Bailey Baptiste etc do well, you waive Pouliot.

It’s a no risk, low reward
- sbroads24

If Bailey and Baptiste fall on their face,
the i bring up Smith, O’Regan, Asplund, Nylander, Pu....

If we have Pouliot & Griffith & Nolan...
then those guys (B&B) are just sitting in the press box,
Bc they can’t be sent down like this year

What would be the reward to having a Pouliot or 2 in the lineup next year?
Are we making the playoffs with them?
Bc if not...
what’s the point?
Develop the young guys who MIGHT be part of the future
Don’t play guys who definitely aren’t

Reminds me of Bobby Bonilla. The Mets owe him over a million a year for close to 20 more years.
- Lunaion

Again smart business man.

[quote=washedup20]
- sbroads24[quote=sbroads24]If someone like Bailey or Baptiste falls on his face, you have an NHL vet on the cheap, that you can play on almost any line.

If Bailey Baptiste etc do well, you waive Pouliot.

It’s a no risk, low reward
I don’t think people are renewing their season tickets based on how electrifying Nick Baptiste is

But they are to see Pouliot?!
Hell no they aren’t
Come on man

But they are to see Pouliot?!
Hell no they aren’t
Come on man
- jdfitz77

I didn’t make any point about the entertainment value. The other poster did.

No ones paying to see either, that’s the point

[quote=washedup20]
- sbroads24[quote=sbroads24]If someone like Bailey or Baptiste falls on his face, you have an NHL vet on the cheap, that you can play on almost any line.

If Bailey Baptiste etc do well, you waive Pouliot.

It’s a no risk, low reward
I don’t think people are renewing their season tickets based on how electrifying Nick Baptiste is

ok man

Kind of rooting for Johnny Manziel.
- sbroads24

He was saying all the right things.

Best thing for him is to go play in the CFL for a few years prove he’s a changed person. Someone will give him a shot.