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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:17 PM ET
I didn’t make any point about the entertainment value. The other poster did.

No ones paying to see either, that’s the point

- sbroads24


Ok... it was kind of confusing with multiple quotes as to who said what... my bad

So to the point u did make...
u don’t think we are making the playoffs next year with a “Pouliot” or 3 on the roster,
do you?

Bc if those guys are in the lineup,
then Bailey & Baptiste aren’t getting playing time
And we can’t send them down
No point to them sitting in the press box

And if they “fall on there face” then we have about half a dozen other guys we can call up from Rochester next year

And even if they ALL fall on their face,
the worst that happens is we just end up with a better draft pick


So unless there’s upside to bringing in however many “Pouliots”
I just don’t see the value to doing so
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 27 @ 8:20 PM ET
Ok... it was kind of confusing with multiple quotes as to who said what... my bad

So to the point u did make...
u don’t think we are making the playoffs next year with a “Pouliot” or 3 on the roster,
do you?

Bc if those guys are in the lineup,
then Bailey & Baptiste aren’t getting playing time
And we can’t send them down
No point to them sitting in the press bo
x

And if they “fall on there face” then we have about half a dozen other guys we can call up from Rochester next year

And even if the ALL fall on their face,
the worst that happens is we just end up with a better draft pick


So unless there’s upside to bringing in however many “Pouliots”
I just don’t see the value to doing so

- jdfitz77

Again, if Baptiste or Bailey get hurt or suck, Pouliot can at least score some goals.

If they do great in camp/preseason. Waive Pouliot. No harm.

We’ve had too many years where guys who were called up were named Varone Or Criscolo or whoever.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 8:20 PM ET
He was saying all the right things.

Best thing for him is to go play in the CFL for a few years prove he’s a changed person. Someone will give him a shot.

- dadeadhead

probably
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
I think some people are over-rating the prospect quality of Baptiste, Bailey, Fasching, Smith, O'Reagan, Olofsson, etc. Most of these guys are 2nd and 3rd tier prospects, with bottom 6 projections. It looks like Baptiste has stepped to the front of that pack, and he's shown the most of that group. He still looks like a 3rd line guy to me.

So, you take a chance at guys like Pouliot because they need to put a better team on the ice next year and they have a better chance at being good players. Keep in mind, a stronger wave of prospects is starting to sign with the organization. Depth guys get their chances. ERod and Nelson took full advantage of theirs.

- Lunaion


I don’t think we KNOW how these guys are gonna turn out yet

For as poor as Bailey has supposedly played for us, he’s on pace for 19goals over a full season
You even said Baptiste looks pretty decent

These guys need icetime to show what they can do
And if they can’t, then so be it...

Like u said,
there’s other guys nipping in their heals to get their chance
But let’s give these guys a chance

How much better are we this year if Pouliot & Griffith each scored 15goals over the course of the season?
We’d still miss the playoffs
There’s just no upside to having those guys on the roster
Especially when teams aren’t trading for depth players at the deadline like they used to
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Mar 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
She is - they’re keeping her corpse in a life like state with a combination black magic incantations and Disney animatronic technology.
- Der Kaiser

Where you been, man? I was beginning to think washedup was your alt, or that sobriety got the best of you.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 8:24 PM ET
Who is still waiver eligible next year?

And u may be right...
but i don’t see the value in sending someone down like Smith or O’Regan,
so we can sign another “Pouliot” who’s an average NHLer & not gonna be part of our future

- jdfitz77



Wonder about Casey Nelson?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
pictures?

asking for a friend

- homiedclown



Im that friend.......
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Mar 27 @ 8:27 PM ET
Superstore is almost at the level of the office such a great show
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 8:29 PM ET
Wonder about Casey Nelson?
- dadeadhead

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 8:29 PM ET
Im that friend.......
- dadeadhead

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Mar 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
Im that friend.......
- dadeadhead


Creepers
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
Im that friend.......
- dadeadhead

my dad put an antenna on the roof, icks up buffalo, toronto and rochester all in hd

he is pulling the plug next week, just using that and firesticks
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:32 PM ET
Where you been, man? I was beginning to think washedup was your alt, or that sobriety got the best of you.
- LandlordTom



Do I take this as a compliment or insult?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 8:33 PM ET
Creepers
- gerbe75pts



Thats rich coming from you.......
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:33 PM ET
Again, if Baptiste or Bailey get hurt or suck, Pouliot can at least score some goals.

If they do great in camp/preseason. Waive Pouliot. No harm.

We’ve had too many years where guys who were called up were named Varone Or Criscolo or whoever.

- sbroads24


But having Pouliot & Griffith PREVENTS US from seeing how Bailey & Baptiste would do

And IF they suck...
O’Regan, Smith, Nylander, Asplund, Olofsson, and Pu...
all guys who could be called up that might be part of the future here
We don’t have to call up Porter or “Varone”

Where does a Pouliot scoring goals for us next year get this team?

Here’s the difference...

Pouliot scores 15 goals
-ok, thanks. But your performance wasn’t measly significant enough to help move the team up the standings
Or
He does nothing
-yeah, then he’s gone.
But he’s gonna be gone even with that 15 goal season bc of his age.
And teams aren’t trading for depth at the deadline
So
The net result, is that it was pointless to have him here

Bailey scores 15 goals next year
-like Pouliot, not enough to help us in the standings significantly...
but now we know he can be a piece of the puzzle moving forward (bc he’s still young)
Or
He busts
-in which case, you bring up O’Regan or Smith to see what they can/can’t do
So
You at least are moving the process forward, even if all u did was decide that Bailey (or whoever) isn’t a part of the future

Having a Pouliot here has absolutely zero value to the future of the team
These young guys MIGHT
Only makes sense to find out
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 27 @ 8:34 PM ET
I don’t think we KNOW how these guys are gonna turn out yet

For as poor as Bailey has supposedly played for us, he’s on pace for 19goals over a full season
You even said Baptiste looks pretty decent

These guys need icetime to show what they can do
And if they can’t, then so be it...

Like u said,
there’s other guys nipping in their heals to get their chance
But let’s give these guys a chance

How much better are we this year if Pouliot & Griffith each scored 15goals over the course of the season?
We’d still miss the playoffs
There’s just no upside to having those guys on the roster
Especially when teams aren’t trading for depth players at the deadline like they used to

- jdfitz77

Seems like this has shifted from Bailey, Baptiste, O’Regan, Smith, and Fasching all being on the opening night roster to just Bailey and Baptiste. It all likelihood, there's two spots there for the taking with their names penciled in. Still wouldn't be shocked to see Bailey moved this summer though.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 8:35 PM ET
Do I take this as a compliment or insult?
- washedup20


A complsult
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:35 PM ET
Wonder about Casey Nelson?
- dadeadhead


Nelson is a UFA after this year,
so he would definitely not be waiver eligible

Kind of concerns me that we haven’t extended him yet
Don’t wanna see him walk
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 8:36 PM ET
Nelson is a UFA after this year,
so he would definitely not be waiver eligible

Kind of concerns me that we haven’t extended him yet
Don’t wanna see him walk

- jdfitz77



You missed the joke......

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 8:36 PM ET
Do I take this as a compliment or insult?
- washedup20

does it matter?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 8:36 PM ET
You missed the joke......
- dadeadhead

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:38 PM ET
Seems like this has shifted from Bailey, Baptiste, O’Regan, Smith, and Fasching all being on the opening night roster to just Bailey and Baptiste. It all likelihood, there's two spots there for the taking with their names penciled in. Still wouldn't be shocked to see Bailey moved this summer though.
- Lunaion


It’s just easier to list 2 names than 6
Point is...
can’t decelop them if they aren’t playing

Whether it’s Bailey, or Fasching, or Pouliot...
if they aren’t part of the future,
then they shouldn’t be on the team next year
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 27 @ 8:39 PM ET
You missed the joke......
- dadeadhead


I’m short...
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Mar 27 @ 8:40 PM ET
Again, if Baptiste or Bailey get hurt or suck, Pouliot can at least score some goals.

If they do great in camp/preseason. Waive Pouliot. No harm.

We’ve had too many years where guys who were called up were named Varone Or Criscolo or whoever.

- sbroads24


what your saying makes sense, its safe but its boring.

We already suck, grab life by the p***y and take a chance. Using your approach, I'd rather looooooose with new guys than with safe guys.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Mar 27 @ 8:40 PM ET
Do I take this as a compliment or insult?
- washedup20

Yes
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