Who ever said that? I only see a UFA as a free player & it should be for need. Problem is GM’s rarely get it right.
- Nighthawk

I believe you did in the last thread.

You should see a 4 way stop in Quesnel. The people going straight will not go at the same time.... when you do it,,,, they throw their hands up in disgust. Takes forever to get anywhere. People riding their brakes up to green lights til it turns yellow and leaves you at a red. Idiots doing 30 in a school zone 8pm on a Sunday. I'm going to rip someones arms and legs off soon.
- boonerbuck

I usually roll the window down and yell out the "C" word, it doesn't help the situation but I feel better.

I usually roll the window down and yell out the "C" word, it doesn't help the situation but I feel better.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Roll the window down and yell "Canucks!!" at them?

I still can't believe that people think that signing UFA's to big money long-term with NTC's for "only money" is a low-risk thing to do.




Cap space is an asset, just like a draft pick.
- Nucker101

if you don't have a good handle on the cap, you aren't doing your job right. Cap management is so imperative to running a team. Does it surprise anyone that teams that are getting insane value on players are at the top of the league right now (Nashville with their D, and Tampa with their forwards) VS teams that are struggling (CHI/VAN). Its not black and white, and obviously teams that have a plethora of space, or don't spend to the ceiling, doesn't equate success or failure, but the proof is in the standings currently.

Roll the window down and yell "Canucks!!" at them?



- boonerbuck

Tanev and Del Zotto (with 50% salary retained on MDZ) to NYI for Calgary's 2018 first and second, plus the Islanders 2nd.

Islanders need to show Tavares that they're prepared to take bold steps to fix their defensive problems and be in ‘win now’ mode. Otherwise he's gone and they’re looking at being in another rebuild mode again themselves. This one move would give them two legitimate NHL veterans including a top-pairing shut-down option, at an average cap hit of less than $3MM each, and without losing any roster players or top prospects. (They could use some of those remaining assets to solve their goaltending issues and try to sign Carter Hutton or Antti Ranta as UFA's.)

Canucks would get two picks in the top 15 of this year’s draft plus two more in the top 43. They would likely be able to take one of the top scoring forwards plus three quality D prospects from the first two rounds. Salary retention on MDZ is only for one year.

Tanev’s injury troubles are mainly the result of constantly getting slammed into the end boards and having pucks hammered at him because the Canucks are lousy. Playing in New York behind a group of forwards who are good at puck possession would greatly reduce the wear and tear on his body and his games lost number should go way down.

if you don't have a good handle on the cap, you aren't doing your job right. Cap management is so imperative to running a team. Does it surprise anyone that teams that are getting insane value on players are at the top of the league right now (Nashville with their D, and Tampa with their forwards) VS teams that are struggling (CHI/VAN). Its not black and white, and obviously teams that have a plethora of space, or don't spend to the ceiling, doesn't equate success or failure, but the proof is in the standings currently.
- Codes1087

It definitely helps when they sign the playersbefore they hit Ufa years to value contracts.
Players like Bo getting his contract, hopefully will be the way of the future for this team.

Tanev and Del Zotto (with 50% salary retained on MDZ) to NYI for Calgary's 2018 first and second, plus the Islanders 2nd.

Islanders need to show Tavares that they're prepared to take bold steps to fix their defensive problems and be in ‘win now’ mode. Otherwise he's gone and they’re looking at being in another rebuild mode again themselves. This one move would give them two legitimate NHL veterans including a top-pairing shut-down option, at an average cap hit of less than $3MM each, and without losing any roster players or top prospects. (They could use some of those remaining assets to solve their goaltending issues and try to sign Carter Hutton or Antti Ranta as UFA's.)

Canucks would get two picks in the top 15 of this year’s draft plus two more in the top 43. They would likely be able to take one of the top scoring forwards plus three quality D prospects from the first two rounds. Salary retention on MDZ is only for one year.

Tanev’s injury troubles are mainly the result of constantly getting slammed into the end boards and having pucks hammered at him because the Canucks are lousy. Playing in New York behind a group of forwards who are good at puck possession would greatly reduce the wear and tear on his body and his games lost number should go way down.
- YeOldTimer

Nice idea and an interesting trading partner. Although, I fear teams will stay away from Tanev at that price. Would be a great deal if possible At this point, I am ok with trading Tanev for a first in the 15-20 range in 2018 or a 2019 first +3rd.

Tanev and Del Zotto (with 50% salary retained on MDZ) to NYI for Calgary's 2018 first and second, plus the Islanders 2nd.

Islanders need to show Tavares that they're prepared to take bold steps to fix their defensive problems and be in ‘win now’ mode. Otherwise he's gone and they’re looking at being in another rebuild mode again themselves. This one move would give them two legitimate NHL veterans including a top-pairing shut-down option, at an average cap hit of less than $3MM each, and without losing any roster players or top prospects. (They could use some of those remaining assets to solve their goaltending issues and try to sign Carter Hutton or Antti Ranta as UFA's.)

Canucks would get two picks in the top 15 of this year’s draft plus two more in the top 43. They would likely be able to take one of the top scoring forwards plus three quality D prospects from the first two rounds. Salary retention on MDZ is only for one year.

Tanev’s injury troubles are mainly the result of constantly getting slammed into the end boards and having pucks hammered at him because the Canucks are lousy. Playing in New York behind a group of forwards who are good at puck possession would greatly reduce the wear and tear on his body and his games lost number should go way down.
- YeOldTimer

sign me up!


At this stage i think Tanev is losing value and we'd be better to hold on and hope he can stay healthy for more than a few weeks before trading him.

What about Tanev and Hutton instead?

sign me up!

- dbot

I'd drive him to the airport at that price

You should see a 4 way stop in Quesnel. The people going straight will not go at the same time.... when you do it,,,, they throw their hands up in disgust. Takes forever to get anywhere. People riding their brakes up to green lights til it turns yellow and leaves you at a red. Idiots doing 30 in a school zone 8pm on a Sunday. I'm going to rip someones arms and legs off soon.
- boonerbuck

I drive through Quesnel often and know exactly what you speak of.

If you don't know how to use a roundabout, learn or sell your (frank)ing car.
- A_SteamingLombardi

It’s amazing. Some people think it’s the same as a 4 way stop

I drive through Quesnel often and know exactly what you speak of.
- Coilers

That's a good move.

Tanev and Del Zotto (with 50% salary retained on MDZ) to NYI for Calgary's 2018 first and second, plus the Islanders 2nd.

Islanders need to show Tavares that they're prepared to take bold steps to fix their defensive problems and be in ‘win now’ mode. Otherwise he's gone and they’re looking at being in another rebuild mode again themselves. This one move would give them two legitimate NHL veterans including a top-pairing shut-down option, at an average cap hit of less than $3MM each, and without losing any roster players or top prospects. (They could use some of those remaining assets to solve their goaltending issues and try to sign Carter Hutton or Antti Ranta as UFA's.)

Canucks would get two picks in the top 15 of this year’s draft plus two more in the top 43. They would likely be able to take one of the top scoring forwards plus three quality D prospects from the first two rounds. Salary retention on MDZ is only for one year.

Tanev’s injury troubles are mainly the result of constantly getting slammed into the end boards and having pucks hammered at him because the Canucks are lousy. Playing in New York behind a group of forwards who are good at puck possession would greatly reduce the wear and tear on his body and his games lost number should go way down.
- YeOldTimer

JT not staying in NY, decision already made.

JT not staying in NY, decision already made.
- LeftCoaster

he'll look good as a canuck

Nice idea and an interesting trading partner. Although, I fear teams will stay away from Tanev at that price. Would be a great deal if possible At this point, I am ok with trading Tanev for a first in the 15-20 range in 2018 or a 2019 first +3rd.
- CanuckDon

Majority of Tanev's injuries are not because he's fragile, it's from getting hit by pucks. i.e. Situational

Put him in a better situation and the number of times he's injured and the number of games he misses should go down fairly significantly. If he could play 70 games a year on a good team at that cap hit, he's a bargain. If this move helps keep Tavares around, it's a very, very low price to pay.

Islanders are in a unique position with their fans because losing the opportunity to take a first and second rounder is easily a distant second to retaining their franchise player in his prime.

Majority of Tanev's injuries are not because he's fragile, it's from getting hit by pucks. i.e. Situational

Put him in a better situation and the number of times he's injured and the number of games he misses should go down fairly significantly. If he could play 70 games a year on a good team at that cap hit, he's a bargain. If this move helps keep Tavares around, it's a very, very low price to pay.

Islanders are in a unique position with their fans because losing the opportunity to take a first and second rounder is easily a distant second to retaining their franchise player in his prime.
- YeOldTimer

If i was Garth Snow, and trying to convince JT to stay, i'd be looking to make a sexier deal than Tanev though.
i'd be trying to land a Karlson (or Carlson for that matter) and a goalie.

Swing for the fences.

NYI trade Calvin De Haan (signed), Cal Clusterfcuk, Josh Ho Sang plus it's Calgary 1st, 2nd to Ottawa for a signed Karlson and Craig Anderson.

If i was Garth Snow, and trying to convince JT to stay, i'd be looking to make a sexier deal than Tanev though.
i'd be trying to land a Karlson (or Carlson for that matter) and a goalie.

Swing for the fences.
- dbot

Yup.
Only someone with special needs would think the Canucks would be a good fit.

A Good Owner would have less to do with the structure of the team rather than have more to do with it. IMO, FA should only be writing cheques to players, and deciding whether or not Linden and Benning get extensions, or get fired, and leave the day to day operations in the hands of the people who are supposed to know how to handle them.
- Codes1087

#Aqualiniout

sign me up!


At this stage i think Tanev is losing value and we'd be better to hold on and hope he can stay healthy for more than a few weeks before trading him.

What about Tanev and Hutton instead?
- dbot

I love the stability Tanev brings to the lineup and don't want him gone either but, weighing that against the ability to add a serious boost of quality D prospects, I think it's a move that should be pursued aggressively.

I'd prefer to see if Hutton can be salvaged. Islanders probably don't see much more value in him than some of the guys they've already got in their system, so it's not as compelling a deal compared to getting two veteran guys.

JT not staying in NY, decision already made.
- LeftCoaster

St. Louis or Florida.

I love the stability Tanev brings to the lineup and don't want him gone either but, weighing that against the ability to add a serious boost of quality D prospects, I think it's a move that should be pursued aggressively.

I'd prefer to see if Hutton can be salvaged. Islanders probably don't see much more value in him than some of the guys they've already got in their system, so it's not as compelling a deal compared to getting two veteran guys.
- YeOldTimer

I appreciate Tanev, but i wanted to move him when his value was higher (at least in my mind) earlier in the year/off season.

I feel his value is decreasing and i'm not so sure he'd bring the kind of return we've come to expect.

Yup.
Only someone with special needs would think the Canucks would be a good fit.
- Marwood

😀

I dreamed that we won the draft lottery last night

You should see a 4 way stop in Quesnel. The people going straight will not go at the same time.... when you do it,,,, they throw their hands up in disgust. Takes forever to get anywhere. People riding their brakes up to green lights til it turns yellow and leaves you at a red. Idiots doing 30 in a school zone 8pm on a Sunday. I'm going to rip someones arms and legs off soon.
- boonerbuck

Was in Quesnel for 10 days of work til Xmas & noticed that on my way to Safeway lol