John Carlson is a free agent after the year. Going to cost booku bucks. BUT, with all the youth on this team, would he be someone this team should look into? Could definitely solidify the backend and maybe play with one of the kids coming up next year like Morin. Keeping Mac and Sanheim together as well as Provy and Ghost.
- Flyers1218

another player we could have drafted

It s just a weird standard by the coaching staff. Young guy makes a mistake rides pine. Ok, vet gets chance to play his way out and eventually rides some pine during a game. Could the PK have gotten any worse with some other dman to start with Provy then Gudas or breaking up the duo of Flip and Lehtera?
- ravishingone

I'm not against benching young guys when they make bonehead plays. You want to prevent them from becoming the Scott Hartnell's of the NHL. However, I would put them in tough situations to see how they respond and let them learn.

I'm not going to bash the organization on player development though. The kids are coming up and being major contributors. They must be doing something right.

(and I am fan of Hartnell, he just does a lot of stupid things like throwing his glove at a guys on breakaway).

Did not watch the game, but saw the goals. Looks like terrible goaltending by Mrazek. First goal by Tavares is from the slot, unscreened five hole. Second goal by Tavares he cannot cover the puck. Another goal he goes down too quickly. Last goal Barzal makes him look silly.
- PT21

The team sucked in front of him as well.

oh joy and they lost 10 games earlier this season
- 2Real

They also won 10 in a row Mr Glass half empty

Did not watch the game, but saw the goals. Looks like terrible goaltending by Mrazek. First goal by Tavares is from the slot, unscreened five hole. Second goal by Tavares he cannot cover the puck. Another goal he goes down too quickly. Last goal Barzal makes him look silly.
- PT21

I thought Mrazek was OK, and not the problem tonight.

Give Tavares that much time and space -- and from one of his favorite shooting areas -- and he's going to score. Didn't think that was soft except for soft coverage. The second Tavares goal was strictly on the guys in front of him. The Barzal one was a sick shot, albeit short side.

Also, when the game was still 2-1 Islanders, it easily could -- even should -- have already been about 4-1 or 5-1.

I thought Mrazek was OK, and not the problem tonight.

Give Tavares that much time and space -- and from one of his favorite shooting areas -- and he's going to score. Didn't think that was soft except for soft coverage. The second Tavares goal was strictly on the guys in front of him. The Barzal one was a sick shot, albeit short side.

Also, when the game was still 2-1 Islanders, it easily could -- even should -- have already been about 4-1 or 5-1.
- bmeltzer

Any word on why Laughton was scratched and what do you expect for lineup changes Thursday?

I'm not against benching young guys when they make bonehead plays. You want to prevent them from becoming the Scott Hartnell's of the NHL. However, I would put them in tough situations to see how they respond and let them learn.

I'm not going to bash the organization on player development though. The kids are coming up and being major contributors. They must be doing something right.

(and I am fan of Hartnell, he just does a lot of stupid things like throwing his glove at a guys on breakaway).
- FlyerFan16

fair enough, but when do you ride the kids because the vets arent playing well enough. when does patrick and lindblom earn more even strength time over a struggling duo of Filp and Simmonds?

I’m the only one that believed

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another player we could have drafted
- 2Real

Yup, and the Flyers also could have drafted Patrik Berglund (higher on many teams' lists, and the next player down on Philly's) instead of Claude Giroux. And the Avalanche could have drafted Simon Gagne instead of bypassing him three times in the first round (including for Martin Skoula and Scott Parker). And every team in the NHL could have drafted Jamie Benn before the 129th pick in 2007.

Shall we discuss every player that every team ever looked bad missing out on it a hindsight drafting?

fair enough, but when do you ride the kids because the vets arent playing well enough. when does patrick and lindblom earn more even strength time over a struggling duo of Filp and Simmonds?
- ravishingone

I'd do it now. Filp, Lehtera, Manning, etc. aren't going to be here when they're contending. Let the kids play through the game deciding shifts now. Sink or swim. That's just me.

Any word on why Laughton was scratched and what do you expect for lineup changes Thursday?
- FlyerFan16

The decision was expected, because that's how they practiced yesterday. Hakstol gave a non-answer to it except to say that it would likely only be for one game "if" he sat out this one.

Yup, and the Flyers also could have drafted Patrik Berglund (higher on many teams' lists, and the next player down on Philly's) instead of Claude Giroux. And the Avalanche could have drafted Simon Gagne instead of bypassing him three times in the first round (including for Martin Skoula and Scott Parker). And every team in the NHL could have drafted Jamie Benn before the 129th pick in 2007.

Shall we discuss every player that every team ever looked bad missing out on it a hindsight drafting?
- bmeltzer

I was going to reply with something similar about Giroux, Gagne. But then I decided it wasn't worth my time.

Yup, and the Flyers also could have drafted Patrik Berglund (higher on many teams' lists, and the next player down on Philly's) instead of Claude Giroux. And the Avalanche could have drafted Simon Gagne instead of bypassing him three times in the first round (including for Martin Skoula and Scott Parker). And every team in the NHL could have drafted Jamie Benn before the 129th pick in 2007.

Shall we discuss every player that every team ever looked bad missing out on it a hindsight drafting?
- bmeltzer

Yes please 🤓

Yup, and the Flyers also could have drafted Patrik Berglund (higher on many teams' lists, and the next player down on Philly's) instead of Claude Giroux. And the Avalanche could have drafted Simon Gagne instead of bypassing him three times in the first round (including for Martin Skoula and Scott Parker). And every team in the NHL could have drafted Jamie Benn before the 129th pick in 2007.

Shall we discuss every player that every team ever looked bad missing out on it a hindsight drafting?
- bmeltzer

Agreed Bill...it’s lazy revisionist history to start with hypothetical draft picks a decade ago. The hyperbole is astounding.

Yup, and the Flyers also could have drafted Patrik Berglund (higher on many teams' lists, and the next player down on Philly's) instead of Claude Giroux. And the Avalanche could have drafted Simon Gagne instead of bypassing him three times in the first round (including for Martin Skoula and Scott Parker). And every team in the NHL could have drafted Jamie Benn before the 129th pick in 2007.

Shall we discuss every player that every team ever looked bad missing out on it a hindsight drafting?
- bmeltzer

The decision was expected, because that's how they practiced yesterday. Hakstol gave a non-answer to it except to say that it would likely only be for one game "if" he sat out this one.
- bmeltzer

Oh, I expected it, just wasn't sure if he was banged up or not. I'm not blaming the game on it, but I thought Laughton's skating was a better fit against the Islanders than Lehtera.

I'd do it now. Filp, Lehtera, Manning, etc. aren't going to be here when they're contending. Let the kids play through the game deciding shifts now. Sink or swim. That's just me.
- FlyerFan16

Agreed and this is where the frustration comes from. The kids are growing, reward these guys to close games out where vets have been shaky. Amac and Manning as a go to d pairing to finish a game. The likelihood of both being here in 2 years slim. No reason Haag shouldnt be in the line up now that he is deemed healthy. We have good player development, the criteria for these guys to earn more responsibility seems sketchy, especially considering the vets are very shaky.

I'm not against benching young guys when they make bonehead plays. You want to prevent them from becoming the Scott Hartnell's of the NHL. However, I would put them in tough situations to see how they respond and let them learn.

I'm not going to bash the organization on player development though. The kids are coming up and being major contributors. They must be doing something right.

(and I am fan of Hartnell, he just does a lot of stupid things like throwing his glove at a guys on breakaway).
- FlyerFan16

This team could use Scott Hartnell (from then, not now). And Danny Briere. And Kimmo. Sigh.

a huge issue was the non call against TK that occured right beofre the isles scored to make it 3-1

i know we came back but if we had gotten that PP and tied it then i think its a completely different game

Yup, and the Flyers also could have drafted Patrik Berglund (higher on many teams' lists, and the next player down on Philly's) instead of Claude Giroux. And the Avalanche could have drafted Simon Gagne instead of bypassing him three times in the first round (including for Martin Skoula and Scott Parker). And every team in the NHL could have drafted Jamie Benn before the 129th pick in 2007.

Shall we discuss every player that every team ever looked bad missing out on it a hindsight drafting?
- bmeltzer

Tom Brady.... even Belicheat passed on him 5 times.

a huge issue was the non call against TK that occured right beofre the isles scored to make it 3-1

i know we came back but if we had gotten that PP and tied it then i think its a completely different game
- bulet13

Agree. A pp at that point could have got them going.

we’re gonna need a SO win in game 82 vs NY again, aren’t we.

a huge issue was the non call against TK that occured right beofre the isles scored to make it 3-1

i know we came back but if we had gotten that PP and tied it then i think its a completely different game
- bulet13

the isles got away with several interference plays through 2 periods. non calls turn into goals.

Yup, and the Flyers also could have drafted Patrik Berglund (higher on many teams' lists, and the next player down on Philly's) instead of Claude Giroux. And the Avalanche could have drafted Simon Gagne instead of bypassing him three times in the first round (including for Martin Skoula and Scott Parker). And every team in the NHL could have drafted Jamie Benn before the 129th pick in 2007.

Shall we discuss every player that every team ever looked bad missing out on it a hindsight drafting?
- bmeltzer

Exactly so they should have passed on Provorov and taken Barzal at 7 Mr 2Real? They also got a pretty good guy at 24 as well that year in Konency so I think the 2015 draft was decent for Philly

we’re gonna need a SO win in game 82 vs NY again, aren’t we.
- hammarby31

A lot of hand-wringing right now, but if we win against Carolina and NJ loses to Toronto (a fairly good possibility), we’re right back to where we were before tonight with one game left. At least they still control their own destiny.