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bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 4 @ 3:59 PM ET
The Flyers need to become an expansion team.
- Scoob


first expansion team to win the cup in fact
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 4 @ 3:59 PM ET
If they lose in regulation to the Canes tomorrow, they no longer control their own destiny? Is this true?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 3:59 PM ET
I read somewhere that Mrazek has won 3 times in his last 14 appearances. I honestly don't feel like he's an option anymore for me.
- mayorofangrytown


that's, um, not good. he should have kept his red wing pads and white hat. seriously, assuming elliott isn't ready, i'd probably go with lyon, despite what happened in pittsburgh.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 4 @ 4:00 PM ET
If they lose in regulation to the Canes tomorrow, they no longer control their own destiny? Is this true?
- PLindbergh31

love Destiny
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 4 @ 4:00 PM ET
Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Konecny, Provorov, Gostisbehere, Couturier. We have pieces.

Nobody knew where Vegas would be where they are. No expansion team in history as done with they've done but it still possible to turn a team around in less than five years.

- SuperSchennBros


what recent expansion team was given the advantage they were? Most expansion teams are given a list of 4th line/minor league players to choose from.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 4:00 PM ET
If they lose in regulation to the Canes tomorrow, they no longer control their own destiny? Is this true?
- PLindbergh31


yes, because 3 is the magic number. a win plus an OT/SO loss gives them 3 regardless of what florida does.

a regulation loss gives them a max of 2 on their own.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 4 @ 4:01 PM ET
If they lose in regulation to the Canes tomorrow, they no longer control their own destiny? Is this true?
- PLindbergh31


no but they do unlock the legendary hand cannon in destiny 2
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 4 @ 4:01 PM ET
Yeah, I’m pretty much there too. I don’t really think Lyon is any better, but the team just seems to bear down and play a little better in front of him.

Either way, if Elliott is ready, you gotta put him in.

- BiggE

Completely agreed
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 4:01 PM ET
I’d be happy just to see Elliott return and the team at least play well and be competitive in round one. With the existing holes on this roster, you cannot expect any more than that.
- BiggE



but then there would be no more hot potato
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 4:02 PM ET
Well guys, I'm out!

I guess today is the one day where facts don't matter

- SuperSchennBros

Fact: Flyers entered the season a bubble team at best. In fact I can’t remember any preseason hockey publications or websites that picked them to make the playoffs

Fact: The Flyers lost both of their regular goalies to injury heading into the stretch drive

Fact: The Flyers are relying on a 19 year old rookie to anchor the 2nd line and trying to get by without a legit 3C

Fact: Radko Gudas, expected to be a solid top 4 Dman on this team, has woefully underperformed

Fact: If the season ended today, the Flyers would be in the playoffs and they’ve already exceeded last years point total by 6 points.

Lighten up dude
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 4 @ 4:02 PM ET


Nobody knew where Vegas would be where they are. No expansion team in history as done with they've done but it still possible to turn a team around in less than five years.

- SuperSchennBros


No other expansion team had access to players like Vegas did.

Full kudos for what they've done, but your comparisons are not apples-to-apples.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 4 @ 4:03 PM ET
love Destiny
- Mordecai

Sometimes I wonder why parents choose that name for their daughters.

You’re pretty much just asking for it.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 4 @ 4:03 PM ET
no but they do unlock the legendary hand cannon in destiny 2
- bulet13

Hand cannons and snipers recently got a nice buff

game is still broken and (frank) Bungie but i'm a glutton for punishment
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 4 @ 4:03 PM ET
Brian Elliott says they’ve been doing their best to replicate game situations in practice for him so he can get a good idea of how ready he is to return.
- ajw12


So they're doing line rushes on him with traffic cones placed at the blue line as defenders?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 4 @ 4:03 PM ET
yes, because 3 is the magic number. a win plus an OT/SO loss gives them 3 regardless of what florida does.
- hammarby31


So basically they can't lose in regulation. Playing two awful teams at home to close out the season you figure they would find a way. They will need the 3 points. They aren't getting any help.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 4 @ 4:03 PM ET
Sometimes I wonder why parents choose that name for their daughters.

You’re pretty much just asking for it.

- Nucker101

we're naming all of our children Filip
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 4:05 PM ET
No other expansion team had access to players like Vegas did.

Full kudos for what they've done, but your comparisons are not apples-to-apples.

- Scoob



add in the salary Cap had a huge affect on a lot of contenders, a cap that helped Vegas and hurt others
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 4:05 PM ET
yes, because 3 is the magic number. a win plus an OT/SO loss gives them 3 regardless of what florida does.

a regulation loss gives them a max of 2 on their own.

- hammarby31


However, if Florida loses to Boston, a team that is trying to secure home-ice advantage for the conference, then the Flyers do not have to get more than 1 point.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 4:05 PM ET
we're naming all of our children Filip
- Mordecai



Flip
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
no but they do unlock the legendary hand cannon in destiny 2
- bulet13


Is this some kind of obscure video game reference? I stopped playing video games about the same time my braces came off.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
I read somewhere that Mrazek has won 3 times in his last 14 appearances. I honestly don't feel like he's an option anymore for me.
- mayorofangrytown


Once the "playing on adrenaline" wore off and he returned to normalcy I was done with him as an option for the future.

He wasted $ getting his mask done up.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
So basically they can't lose in regulation. Playing two awful teams at home to close out the season you figure they would find a way. They will need the 3 points. They aren't getting any help.
- PLindbergh31


correct. in order to eliminate florida's results.

florida still has a tough road, needing to win all 3, playing boston twice, and needing the flyers to lose at least once in regulation.

flyers have the advantage. at home. against 2 non playoff teams, with their own playoffs on the line. it will be nothing less than abject failure and collapse considering they were 13 points clear of the last non playoff team at the deadline.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
Is this some kind of obscure video game reference? I stopped playing video games about the same time my braces came off.
- PLindbergh31

so, yesterday?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 4:07 PM ET
However, if Florida loses to Boston, a team that is trying to secure home-ice advantage for the conference, then the Flyers do not have to get more than 1 point.
- jmatchett383


correct. a florida regulation loss and flyers OT/SO loss tomorrow and they clinch.
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